The Language of Love (1, not 5)

[CILi]

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[Galen]

Not sure how socionics-related this is, but it's really interesting. When was this study done?

[Timeless]

Well, shit.

I threw all my IM conversations into the fire pit. It would have been interesting to see how it came out though.

[Jenna]

between boyfriend (SLI) and i:
0.68 - when we're getting along
0.79 - when fighting (..? i don't understand why this one is bigger when we're fighting)

between an acquaintance (SLE - i babysit for her) and i
0.71 (our texting history is kind of boring. but we get along much better face to face)

between best friend (SEE) and i
0.94 - when we're getting along
0.87 - when fighting

[chip]

blew my mind! that is terribly interesting. My last girlfriend and I had a hard time breaking up because we could communicate with each other so well. Synchrony of speech exactly! Needless to say I want her back. as billy shakespere once said: "absence makes the heart grow fonder".

[redbaron]

that's too much work (damn I am lazy). but I agree with this premise and have noticed it in my interpersonal relations. I might not have noticed it as such prior to my knowledge of socionics. I would have noticed that I clicked better with this or that person or that I could understand someone really easily but I wouldn't have realized why.

[tcaudilllg]

Just imagine how much better the research would be if it DID consider the existing IM semantics literature.

[DirectorAbbie]

An EII E6 friend: 0.86

(facebook chat)

[Slacker]

I wish I could find an email from my husband longer than 7 words.

[DirectorAbbie]

I wish I could find an email from my husband longer than 7 words.

Heh. This is the same reason I'm not gonna try analyzing a conversation between myself and Brilliand.

[Aiss]

I tested IM conversation of me and the person I chat with most, and got 0.66.

Then I took tcaud's wall of text and labcoat's wall of text, and found their compatibility to be at 0.87.

[Slacker]

I found good, long samples. My husband and I are 0.69.

[Creepy-male]

Then I took tcaud's wall of text and labcoat's wall of text, and found their compatibility to be at 0.87.

I guess sometimes speaking the same language makes it that much easier to disagree!

[Creepy-Snaps]

I found good, long samples. My husband and I are 0.69.

[Slacker]

ROFL I didn't catch that! LOL

[Cyrano]

I wish I could find an email from my husband longer than 7 words.

HA! Ah but those seven words!

[Suz]

I tested IM conversation of me and the person I chat with most, and got 0.66.

Then I took tcaud's wall of text and labcoat's wall of text, and found their compatibility to be at 0.87.

LOL.

that's really cool though. Maybe identicals have higher scores.

[Suz]

HA! Ah but those seven words!

True actually. Cutting out all excess verbal garbage.

[Suz]

that's too much work (damn I am lazy). but I agree with this premise and have noticed it in my interpersonal relations. I might not have noticed it as such prior to my knowledge of socionics. I would have noticed that I clicked better with this or that person or that I could understand someone really easily but I wouldn't have realized why.

I agree.

I feel like with duals you communicate the same way but in different modalities. Like, the dual says what you were thinking, or you write what the dual was thinking, etc. But the writing styles might be somewhat different (as demonstrated by the SLI concise writing vs IEE long-windedness). So the score might not necessarily reflect the degree to which two people understand each other.

[Creepy-male]

I agree.

I feel like with duals you communicate the same way but in different modalities. Like, the dual says what you were thinking, or you write what the dual was thinking, etc. But the writing styles might be somewhat different (as demonstrated by the SLI concise writing vs IEE long-windedness). So the score might not necessarily reflect the degree to which two people understand each other.

I think the thing is...

This measures compatibility of speech. Duals may have different speaking styles, but say in the case of really good friends it's quite easy to read between the lines and translate what the other person is saying into you-speak.

I've often been in situations with my best friend where one of us has been "but what I meant was <blah blah>" and it's like "Yup, I got that at the time "

Of course, one's competence with a skill (such as speaking another person's "language") is typically proportional to the time spent using it...

[pianosinger]

I am in shock and utter disbelief...I came out a 0.9 with BulletsandDoves...

It can't be...

[DirectorAbbie]

CILi and I scored a 0.9 chatting on facebook.

[DirectorAbbie]

I think the number you get is directly related to the size of the entry.

[DirectorAbbie]

Arctures (chatting on facebook): 0.83

[Suz]

I am in shock and utter disbelief...I came out a 0.9 with BulletsandDoves...

It can't be...

It could be the club thing.

[pianosinger]

It could be the club thing.

maybe...idk Thing is, most of the time when I read his posts, they just seem so...foreign to me. Totally different language, or so it seems to me. But then, maybe it's not so much that I can't understand him, but more like I get this attitude towards his post like...who cares? yk? Anyway, maybe he feels the same way reading my stuff. idk.

Maybe it's just the fact that in both the samples I used, we both used several Socionics terms...

[Creepy-male]

Using a BnD-like speech pattern in your post was rather cute

[pianosinger]

Using a BnD-like speech pattern in your post was rather cute

hmm, well it wasn't on purpose...can you please point out to me how I used a "BnD-like speech pattern"? I am clueless. k thx.

[Creepy-male]

But then, maybe it's not so much that I can't understand him, but more like I get this attitude towards his post like...who cares? yk? Anyway, maybe he feels the same way reading my stuff. idk.

That lilty pausy wavery thing is very BnDesque.

[MatthewZ]

Lulz, putting a number on writing style. Because that's statistically sound.

PS: I got .58 with myself using two different pieces of academic writing samples on sociology. "To give you an idea, most LSM scores for general writing samples range between .60 and .90, with the average being around .78."

I'm calling bullshit on the methodology.

[pianosinger]

That lilty pausy wavery thing is very BnDesque.

Oh I see. So you're saying it's my liberal use of elipses that resembles BnD's writing...well, if that's all that we have in common, then...it's not really much, is it?

I'm calling bullshit on the methodology.

Yeah.

[Creepy-male]

It's hard to pin it on anything objective, but reading that segment, BnD's voice just popped straight into my head.

[pianosinger]

It's there.

And it's a nice thing.

Well, alright...I'll take your word for it...and yours too, TA (can I still call you "TA"? idk, it seems nicer somehow than "TEH").

Maye I can blame it on us both being aspiring writers

[FDG]

Could this be an overly complicated way to express what would be commonly defined as "vibe" and "chemistry" between two individuals?

[Suz]

Lol, this Language Style Matching only hands out high LSM scores for whoever's writing samples I submit it seems!

Between me & myself - LSM score is 0.89

Between Twitch and myself - LSM score is 0.88
Between Flat Footed Frog and myself - LSM score is 0.93
Between Pianosinger & myself - LSM score is 0.87
Between Marie84 & myself - LSM score is 0.91
Between Ssmall & myself - LSM score is 0.88
Between Minde & myself - LSM score is 0.91
Between WorkaholicsAnon & myself - LSM score is 0.92

try comparing yourself with a non-delta

[pianosinger]

try comparing yourself with a non-delta

Yeah, 'cause it worked real well for me

[Pa3s]

I got .58 with myself using two different pieces of academic writing samples on sociology. "To give you an idea, most LSM scores for general writing samples range between .60 and .90, with the average being around .78."

I'm calling bullshit on the methodology.

I got 0.68 with myself. It's quite odd that I'm so not in synch with myself. I wouldn't call this test very reliable since examples of a single person should at least range in the 90s.

[Suz]

Yes, I noticed after I posted that all of the writing styles from others that I had compared mine with were from Delta .

Ok here are a few comparisons with supposedly non-deltas.

Between Golden & myself - LSM score is 0.9
Between Mountain Dew & myself - LSM score is 0.88
Between Starfall & myself- LSM score is 0.82
Between Redbaron & myself - LSM score is 0.88

Maybe try comparing with Ryu, Ashton, Aiss, Aixelsyd. Other STs (delta and beta) and gamma NTs. See what you get.

I think people in the same club can communicate similarly (just have totally differing goals and perspectives) and the similarity with Mountain Dew might possibly be Ne-driven.

[Creepy-Snaps]

I got 0.68 with myself. It's quite odd that I'm so not in synch with myself. I wouldn't call this test very reliable since examples of a single person should at least range in the 90s.

Did you compare writing samples created with similar moods? Time of day? Anything that could have affected your writing?

Just scientifically reasoning. But yes, with weird results others are posting, I think the test is flawed myself... can't confirm though.

I think people in the same club can communicate similarly (just have totally differing goals and perspectives) and the similarity with Mountain Dew might possibly be Ne-driven.

You still think I'm ENFp?

[Aiss]

Hayley: I've looked for a post of yours to do comparison, but most of them are way too short. What length of text are you using?