Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 40 of 43

Thread: The Language of Love (1, not 5)

  1. #1
    CILi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    635
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    -
    Last edited by CILi; 05-31-2017 at 05:57 AM.

  2. #2
    when you see the booty Galen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    everywhere at once
    Posts
    8,449
    Mentioned
    203 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Not sure how socionics-related this is, but it's really interesting. When was this study done?
    "And above all, watch with glittering eyes the whole world around you because the greatest secrets are always hidden in the most unlikely places. Those who don't believe in magic will never find it." -Roald Dahl

    http://forum.socionix.com/
    It's pretty cool

  3. #3
    Imagine Timeless's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    San Francisco, CA.
    TIM
    ILE/ENTp
    Posts
    819
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Well, shit.

    I threw all my IM conversations into the fire pit. It would have been interesting to see how it came out though.

  4. #4

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    US
    TIM
    IEI-Ni 4w5 sx/so
    Posts
    733
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    between boyfriend (SLI) and i:
    0.68 - when we're getting along
    0.79 - when fighting (..? i don't understand why this one is bigger when we're fighting)

    between an acquaintance (SLE - i babysit for her) and i
    0.71 (our texting history is kind of boring. but we get along much better face to face)

    between best friend (SEE) and i
    0.94 - when we're getting along
    0.87 - when fighting

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    South Korea
    TIM
    INTJ - intuitive sub
    Posts
    214
    Mentioned
    12 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    blew my mind! that is terribly interesting. My last girlfriend and I had a hard time breaking up because we could communicate with each other so well. Synchrony of speech exactly! Needless to say I want her back. as billy shakespere once said: "absence makes the heart grow fonder".

  6. #6
    redbaron's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    9,321
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    that's too much work (damn I am lazy). but I agree with this premise and have noticed it in my interpersonal relations. I might not have noticed it as such prior to my knowledge of socionics. I would have noticed that I clicked better with this or that person or that I could understand someone really easily but I wouldn't have realized why.
    IEI-Fe 4w3

  7. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    TIM
    TiNe
    Posts
    7,967
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Just imagine how much better the research would be if it DID consider the existing IM semantics literature.

  8. #8
    Darn Socks Director Abbie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Southwest USA
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    6,724
    Mentioned
    235 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    An EII E6 friend: 0.86

    (facebook chat)
    Last edited by Director Abbie; 02-02-2011 at 02:25 AM.

    ESTj
    1w2 sp/so 1-2-6
    Brilliand's Younger Sister
    Squishy's Older Sister

    Johari Nohari

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

  9. #9
    aka Slacker Slacker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    North Korea
    TIM
    IEE
    Posts
    8,819
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I wish I could find an email from my husband longer than 7 words.

  10. #10
    Darn Socks Director Abbie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Southwest USA
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    6,724
    Mentioned
    235 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariella View Post
    I wish I could find an email from my husband longer than 7 words.
    Heh. This is the same reason I'm not gonna try analyzing a conversation between myself and Brilliand.

    ESTj
    1w2 sp/so 1-2-6
    Brilliand's Younger Sister
    Squishy's Older Sister

    Johari Nohari

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

  11. #11
    ._. Aiss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    TIM
    IEI
    Posts
    2,015
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I tested IM conversation of me and the person I chat with most, and got 0.66.

    Then I took tcaud's wall of text and labcoat's wall of text, and found their compatibility to be at 0.87.

  12. #12
    aka Slacker Slacker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    North Korea
    TIM
    IEE
    Posts
    8,819
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I found good, long samples. My husband and I are 0.69.

  13. #13
    Creepy-male

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Aiss View Post
    Then I took tcaud's wall of text and labcoat's wall of text, and found their compatibility to be at 0.87.
    I guess sometimes speaking the same language makes it that much easier to disagree!

  14. #14
    Creepy-Snaps

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariella View Post
    I found good, long samples. My husband and I are 0.69.

  15. #15
    aka Slacker Slacker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    North Korea
    TIM
    IEE
    Posts
    8,819
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    ROFL I didn't catch that! LOL

  16. #16
    without the nose Cyrano's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Columbus, Ohio USA
    Posts
    1,021
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariella View Post
    I wish I could find an email from my husband longer than 7 words.
    HA! Ah but those seven words!
    ISTp
    SLI

    Enneagram 5 with a side of wings.

  17. #17
    Breaking stereotypes Suz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    On a chatbox diet
    TIM
    IDK
    Posts
    6,470
    Mentioned
    169 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Aiss View Post
    I tested IM conversation of me and the person I chat with most, and got 0.66.

    Then I took tcaud's wall of text and labcoat's wall of text, and found their compatibility to be at 0.87.
    LOL.

    that's really cool though. Maybe identicals have higher scores.
    Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx

  18. #18
    Breaking stereotypes Suz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    On a chatbox diet
    TIM
    IDK
    Posts
    6,470
    Mentioned
    169 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post
    HA! Ah but those seven words!




    True actually. Cutting out all excess verbal garbage.
    Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx

  19. #19
    Breaking stereotypes Suz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    On a chatbox diet
    TIM
    IDK
    Posts
    6,470
    Mentioned
    169 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    that's too much work (damn I am lazy). but I agree with this premise and have noticed it in my interpersonal relations. I might not have noticed it as such prior to my knowledge of socionics. I would have noticed that I clicked better with this or that person or that I could understand someone really easily but I wouldn't have realized why.
    I agree.

    I feel like with duals you communicate the same way but in different modalities. Like, the dual says what you were thinking, or you write what the dual was thinking, etc. But the writing styles might be somewhat different (as demonstrated by the SLI concise writing vs IEE long-windedness). So the score might not necessarily reflect the degree to which two people understand each other.
    Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx

  20. #20
    Creepy-male

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    I agree.

    I feel like with duals you communicate the same way but in different modalities. Like, the dual says what you were thinking, or you write what the dual was thinking, etc. But the writing styles might be somewhat different (as demonstrated by the SLI concise writing vs IEE long-windedness). So the score might not necessarily reflect the degree to which two people understand each other.
    I think the thing is...

    This measures compatibility of speech. Duals may have different speaking styles, but say in the case of really good friends it's quite easy to read between the lines and translate what the other person is saying into you-speak.

    I've often been in situations with my best friend where one of us has been "but what I meant was <blah blah>" and it's like "Yup, I got that at the time "

    Of course, one's competence with a skill (such as speaking another person's "language") is typically proportional to the time spent using it...

  21. #21
    not gonna be around as much anymore
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    TIM
    C-IEE
    Posts
    1,258
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I am in shock and utter disbelief...I came out a 0.9 with BulletsandDoves...

    It can't be...
    My life's work (haha):
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/blog.php?b=709
    Input, PLEASEAnd thank you

  22. #22
    Darn Socks Director Abbie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Southwest USA
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    6,724
    Mentioned
    235 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    CILi and I scored a 0.9 chatting on facebook.

    ESTj
    1w2 sp/so 1-2-6
    Brilliand's Younger Sister
    Squishy's Older Sister

    Johari Nohari

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

  23. #23
    Darn Socks Director Abbie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Southwest USA
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    6,724
    Mentioned
    235 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I think the number you get is directly related to the size of the entry.

    ESTj
    1w2 sp/so 1-2-6
    Brilliand's Younger Sister
    Squishy's Older Sister

    Johari Nohari

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

  24. #24
    Darn Socks Director Abbie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Southwest USA
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    6,724
    Mentioned
    235 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Arctures (chatting on facebook): 0.83

    ESTj
    1w2 sp/so 1-2-6
    Brilliand's Younger Sister
    Squishy's Older Sister

    Johari Nohari

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

  25. #25
    Breaking stereotypes Suz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    On a chatbox diet
    TIM
    IDK
    Posts
    6,470
    Mentioned
    169 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    I am in shock and utter disbelief...I came out a 0.9 with BulletsandDoves...

    It can't be...
    It could be the club thing.
    Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx

  26. #26
    not gonna be around as much anymore
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    TIM
    C-IEE
    Posts
    1,258
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    It could be the club thing.
    maybe...idk Thing is, most of the time when I read his posts, they just seem so...foreign to me. Totally different language, or so it seems to me. But then, maybe it's not so much that I can't understand him, but more like I get this attitude towards his post like...who cares? yk? Anyway, maybe he feels the same way reading my stuff. idk.

    Maybe it's just the fact that in both the samples I used, we both used several Socionics terms...
    My life's work (haha):
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/blog.php?b=709
    Input, PLEASEAnd thank you

  27. #27
    Creepy-male

    Default

    Using a BnD-like speech pattern in your post was rather cute

  28. #28
    not gonna be around as much anymore
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    TIM
    C-IEE
    Posts
    1,258
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by The Egbert Human View Post
    Using a BnD-like speech pattern in your post was rather cute
    hmm, well it wasn't on purpose...can you please point out to me how I used a "BnD-like speech pattern"? I am clueless. k thx.
    My life's work (haha):
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/blog.php?b=709
    Input, PLEASEAnd thank you

  29. #29
    Creepy-male

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    But then, maybe it's not so much that I can't understand him, but more like I get this attitude towards his post like...who cares? yk? Anyway, maybe he feels the same way reading my stuff. idk.
    That lilty pausy wavery thing is very BnDesque.

  30. #30
    Executor MatthewZ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    TIM
    Ne-LII
    Posts
    800
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Lulz, putting a number on writing style. Because that's statistically sound.

    PS: I got .58 with myself using two different pieces of academic writing samples on sociology. "To give you an idea, most LSM scores for general writing samples range between .60 and .90, with the average being around .78."

    I'm calling bullshit on the methodology.

  31. #31
    not gonna be around as much anymore
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    TIM
    C-IEE
    Posts
    1,258
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by The Egbert Human View Post
    That lilty pausy wavery thing is very BnDesque.
    Oh I see. So you're saying it's my liberal use of elipses that resembles BnD's writing...well, if that's all that we have in common, then...it's not really much, is it?

    I'm calling bullshit on the methodology.
    Yeah.
    My life's work (haha):
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/blog.php?b=709
    Input, PLEASEAnd thank you

  32. #32
    Creepy-male

    Default

    It's hard to pin it on anything objective, but reading that segment, BnD's voice just popped straight into my head.

  33. #33
    not gonna be around as much anymore
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    TIM
    C-IEE
    Posts
    1,258
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post
    It's there.

    And it's a nice thing.
    Well, alright...I'll take your word for it...and yours too, TA (can I still call you "TA"? idk, it seems nicer somehow than "TEH").

    Maye I can blame it on us both being aspiring writers
    My life's work (haha):
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/blog.php?b=709
    Input, PLEASEAnd thank you

  34. #34
    Hot Message FDG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Freiburg im Breisgau
    TIM
    ENTj
    Posts
    15,626
    Mentioned
    156 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Could this be an overly complicated way to express what would be commonly defined as "vibe" and "chemistry" between two individuals?
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

  35. #35
    Breaking stereotypes Suz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    On a chatbox diet
    TIM
    IDK
    Posts
    6,470
    Mentioned
    169 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayley View Post
    Lol, this Language Style Matching only hands out high LSM scores for whoever's writing samples I submit it seems!

    Between me & myself - LSM score is 0.89

    Between Twitch and myself - LSM score is 0.88
    Between Flat Footed Frog and myself - LSM score is 0.93
    Between Pianosinger & myself - LSM score is 0.87
    Between Marie84 & myself - LSM score is 0.91
    Between Ssmall & myself - LSM score is 0.88
    Between Minde & myself - LSM score is 0.91
    Between WorkaholicsAnon & myself - LSM score is 0.92
    try comparing yourself with a non-delta

    Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx

  36. #36
    not gonna be around as much anymore
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    TIM
    C-IEE
    Posts
    1,258
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    try comparing yourself with a non-delta

    Yeah, 'cause it worked real well for me
    My life's work (haha):
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/blog.php?b=709
    Input, PLEASEAnd thank you

  37. #37
    Robot Assassin Pa3s's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Germany
    TIM
    Ne-LII, 5w6
    Posts
    3,648
    Mentioned
    46 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    I got .58 with myself using two different pieces of academic writing samples on sociology. "To give you an idea, most LSM scores for general writing samples range between .60 and .90, with the average being around .78."

    I'm calling bullshit on the methodology.
    I got 0.68 with myself. It's quite odd that I'm so not in synch with myself. I wouldn't call this test very reliable since examples of a single person should at least range in the 90s.
    „Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
    – Arthur Schopenhauer

  38. #38
    Breaking stereotypes Suz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    On a chatbox diet
    TIM
    IDK
    Posts
    6,470
    Mentioned
    169 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayley View Post
    Yes, I noticed after I posted that all of the writing styles from others that I had compared mine with were from Delta .

    Ok here are a few comparisons with supposedly non-deltas.

    Between Golden & myself - LSM score is 0.9
    Between Mountain Dew & myself - LSM score is 0.88
    Between Starfall & myself- LSM score is 0.82
    Between Redbaron & myself - LSM score is 0.88
    Maybe try comparing with Ryu, Ashton, Aiss, Aixelsyd. Other STs (delta and beta) and gamma NTs. See what you get.

    I think people in the same club can communicate similarly (just have totally differing goals and perspectives) and the similarity with Mountain Dew might possibly be Ne-driven.
    Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx

  39. #39
    Creepy-Snaps

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoomer View Post
    I got 0.68 with myself. It's quite odd that I'm so not in synch with myself. I wouldn't call this test very reliable since examples of a single person should at least range in the 90s.
    Did you compare writing samples created with similar moods? Time of day? Anything that could have affected your writing?

    Just scientifically reasoning. But yes, with weird results others are posting, I think the test is flawed myself... can't confirm though.

    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    I think people in the same club can communicate similarly (just have totally differing goals and perspectives) and the similarity with Mountain Dew might possibly be Ne-driven.
    You still think I'm ENFp?

  40. #40
    ._. Aiss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    TIM
    IEI
    Posts
    2,015
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Hayley: I've looked for a post of yours to do comparison, but most of them are way too short. What length of text are you using?

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •