Because I know they're out there.
Because I know they're out there.
They Might Be Giants, a group I listened to in college and now my kid listens to. At least one of them, one of them could be LII I guess but I wouldn't doubt if they're both ILE
Dolores O'Riordan from the Cranberries me thinks.
Weird Al.
What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Peter Tschaikovsky
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
Ozzy osbourne. Sorry library webblocker wont allow me to post photos.
Andrew Bird
EDIT: Actually, maybe he's LII. Well anyway, here he is:
Richard D. James (Aphex Twin) and Jake Mandell, in the electronica realm.
I think Evan Gregory of the Gregory Brothers is probably ILE, his brother Micheal could be LII
EII INFj
Forum status: retired
Yeah, John Lennon.
Okay, let's narrow it down to electronic music.
I'm ILE
^ Do you torture people in your basement?
Add Geddy Lee, the lead singer and bassist of the rock band, RUSH (as well as the guy in the center of my avatar)!
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Mike
Enneagram: 6w7 so/sx (Tritype: 6w7/9w1/2w3 or 6w7/9w1/3w2)
We should make a list by genre and cultural time:
A basic frame like --
Classical >
Jazz >
Rock 1950-1970 >
Rock 1970-1990 >
Rock 1990-2000 >
Rock 2000+ >
Electronic 1980-1990 >
Electronic 1990-2000 >
Electronic 2000+ >
Early Rap/Hip Hop/RnB 1980-1995 >
Rap/Hip Hop/RnB 1995-2005 >
Rap/Hip Hop/RnB 2005+ >
Etc
I'm not sure on the technical names of different stages of rock music and so forth so maybe people could flesh it out, also subgenres.
I know a lot of the subgenre names for classical (baroque, romantic, etc) and jazz (bebop, hard bop, cool, etc) and a few scattered subgenres for modern music.
You could then place ILE musicians in different genres and then have more data to create patterns. This could be prime spreadsheet material.
I used to think Bob James was ILE.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
p . . . a . . . n . . . d . . . o . . . r . . . a
trad metalz | (more coming)
Jack White
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You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq_XJmM-k