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    Default Recommendations of ESFj musical artists

    Can you recommend any? The only one I know of is Paul McCartney. Seems like there are a ton of SEI ones though.

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    Whigfield is the main one I can think of right now (and with Paul, I had been persuaded that he is a SEI too ).

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    The usual typing for Paul is SEI, but now that you mention it, ESE does indeed sound more accurate. He's a bit reclusive for an ESE, but he's ridiculously EJ - probably Si-subtype.

    Hmmm... Beyonce's type is often debated between ESI and ESE. Most crappy eurobeat is also ESE (Dave Rodgers, NIKO, D. Essex, Hinoi Team, anything that was ever played on Initial D). For music that isn't trash, The Specials are some kind of Alpha SF, I lean ESE.
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    Ooh ooh.

    Armin van Buuren! Oliver Smith OTOH is SEI I'm thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanks Arthur View Post
    Ooh ooh.

    Armin van Buuren! Oliver Smith OTOH is SEI I'm thinking.
    Armin van Buuren is a very good pick. For ESEness, I mean... his music is kind of poo...
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    oh, Geri Halliwell too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    The only one I know of is Paul McCartney.
    I agree. H-ESE maybe.

    I think Kim Appleby could be ESE.

    (It's a catchy song)


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    cracka is mc chris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    Whigfield is the main one I can think of right now
    Hm, Delta NF maybe?

    Quote Originally Posted by CloudCuckooLander View Post
    Hmmm... Beyonce's type is often debated between ESI and ESE.
    lol - "put a ring on it": enough said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    I think Kim Appleby could be ESE.

    (It's a catchy song)
    YouTube - Kim Appleby - If You Cared

    Interview:
    YouTube - Kim Appleby - Music Box Feature (1994)
    Sounds good to me.

    AvB totally seems like an ESE, yeah.



    I was going to say Jeff Lynne of ELO, but he's probably SEI.




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    I don't know, but I really relate a lot to Kelly Clarkson and Beyonce music. . .

    Does anybody know if Kelly Clarkson is ESFj? I'd kinda like to know as most of her music [as I said] I relate to.

    Food for thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow82 View Post
    I don't know, but I really relate a lot to Kelly Clarkson and Beyonce music. . .

    Does anybody know if Kelly Clarkson is ESFj? I'd kinda like to know as most of her music [as I said] I relate to.

    Food for thought.
    I'd put my money on Clarkson being ESE but I get the vibe that Beyonce is SEE, not entirely sure though

    I think Shania Twain and Cheryl Cole might be ESE too, but again, I'm not sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marie84 View Post
    I'd put my money on Clarkson being ESE but I get the vibe that Beyonce is SEE, not entirely sure though

    I think Shania Twain and Cheryl Cole might be ESE too, but again, I'm not sure
    I'm not familiar with Cole, but Clarkson and Twain intuitively seem like they could be ESE, to me.
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    Yeah. This song of hers sounds like a page from my diary: .

    Funny how starkingly similar people can talk within their personality types. One thing I've noticed is that the more you become aware, the more you can identify a persons type just by the way they talk. Kind of amazing.

    Oh, and I just figured out that my sister is ESE/ESFj; subtype - H. So that was really neat.

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    I've always strangely liked Kelly Clarkson's music, even though it's not remotely the sort of music I usually listen to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marie84 View Post
    I'd put my money on Clarkson being ESE but I get the vibe that Beyonce is SEE, not entirely sure though

    I think Shania Twain and Cheryl Cole might be ESE too, but again, I'm not sure
    I actually think Shania Twain is either LII or LSI - anyone have thoughts on that? Beyonce is probably ESI. I'll have to check out Kelly Clarkson.

    btw I think mc chris is a good bet. I find his music highly addictive...

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    I agree with Marie that Beyonce is SEE type.

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    My guitarist is the most blatant, textbook ESE I've ever met.

    Most of the guitarists I've met so far have been Gammas, almost none of which gave a rat's ass about things like playing with feel - they only cared about speed and technique.

    He plays a little loose at times in comparison to the Gammas I've worked with, but he makes up for it in passion, plus he's great at getting a rise out of the crowd. But he's annoyingly obsessed with timbre and ambiance ...I've learned a lot of drama is prevented if I don't butt in on his wank-fest (spending hours finding the perfect tone and "feel"). So I just leave all that to him now, even though I'm good at it too.

    I'd post a song of ours, but I'd want it to be recent, and most of our stuff online is ancient. Intense LSI singer + bouncy ESE guitarist - probably kind of a unusual combo, but it's been working for us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ink View Post
    My guitarist is the most blatant, textbook ESE I've ever met.

    Most of the guitarists I've met so far have been Gammas, almost none of which gave a rat's ass about things like playing with feel - they only cared about speed and technique.

    He plays a little loose at times in comparison to the Gammas I've worked with, but he makes up for it in passion, plus he's great at getting a rise out of the crowd. But he's annoyingly obsessed with timbre and ambiance ...I've learned a lot of drama is prevented if I don't butt in on his wank-fest (spending hours finding the perfect tone and "feel"). So I just leave all that to him now, even though I'm good at it too.

    I'd post a song of ours, but I'd want it to be recent, and most of our stuff online is ancient. Intense LSI singer + bouncy ESE guitarist - probably kind of a unusual combo, but it's been working for us
    Post it!

    I'm a Gamma guitarist; I played a bit on the stiff side, I didn't give much a damn about the "perfect" tone, just a big and effective one... I used to be really shredder-y, but I'm all about pounding out rhythms and riffs nowadays...

    With the Deltas, they cared about "tone" or whatever, whereas I just wanted to roar away and get people moving around; it worked when it was just me and the Si-SLI, but when the IEE entered the picture, things got all slow and mellow and I couldn't light a fire under everything's ass, then it got all mopey sounding, ugghhh...

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    Actually Maritsa I kinda think that Beyonce is an estj.

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    Beyonce always seemed SEE to me as well. *shrugs*

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    taken from the LII-ESE facebook group

    Jennifer Lopez - Papi


    Whitney Houston - I'm Every Woman


    Marianne Faithfull - Crazy Love



    Shania Twain - You've Got A Way



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    Reinin has Natalia Oreiro as an ESE...I can't remember my opinion but I thought IEE was also a possibility
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    Bump.

    Any other ideas? Preferably looking for well-known and contemporary artists. Post interviews, not songs please.

    edit: going to investigate some people in this thread.

    MC Chris is known for aggressive outbursts and harsh treatment of fans, so almost definitely not ESE.
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    I think Jennifer Lopez is probably ESI:


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    Whitney Houston, Beta NF:


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    Shania Twain seems ESE.

    Jennifer Lopez and Beyoncé seem very Se to me. I think Lopez is SEE and Beyoncé is EIE. Both of them have a confidence in their choreography and physical environment that seem more Se than Si. Lopez wants to draw more attention to her physical appearance and how she moves than her emotions which is why I think she is an Se type. Also with Lopez she sings about emotions but they aren't really "bubbling over" like with and Fe Dom. Beyoncé I think is EIE because her emotions seems so dominant and expressed...if she was Fi they would be more concealed.

    Jessica Simpson is the only one who strikes me as a possible ESE and I think she might be EIE....pretty sure she exudes Fe. Her language, hand movements, facial expression exude her emotions..it's very dominant. Her husband seems like and ISTj and she seems much happier in this relationship he is probably her dual of semi-dual depending on what type of Fe leading she is.


    here are a couple interviews(in the last one she is bubbling over in Fe excitement, she can't really contain her emotions)

    https://youtu.be/65Q8IFMulHE
    https://youtu.be/SsynRNPvWus

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrowsofyoungwerther View Post
    Shania Twain seems ESE.

    Jennifer Lopez and Beyoncé seem very Se to me. I think Lopez is SEE and Beyoncé is EIE. Both of them have a confidence in their choreography and physical environment that seem more Se than Si. Lopez wants to draw more attention to her physical appearance and how she moves than her emotions which is why I think she is an Se type. Also with Lopez she sings about emotions but they aren't really "bubbling over" like with and Fe Dom. Beyoncé I think is EIE because her emotions seems so dominant and expressed...if she was Fi they would be more concealed.
    People usually type Beyonce as Gamma SF, there is a thread about her. Anyways I don't think anyone really thinks she is ESE.

    Jessica Simpson is the only one who strikes me as a possible ESE and I think she might be EIE....pretty sure she exudes Fe. Her language, hand movements, facial expression exude her emotions..it's very dominant. Her husband seems like and ISTj and she seems much happier in this relationship he is probably her dual of semi-dual depending on what type of Fe leading she is.


    here are a couple interviews(in the last one she is bubbling over in Fe excitement, she can't really contain her emotions)

    https://youtu.be/65Q8IFMulHE
    https://youtu.be/SsynRNPvWus
    I think you're right about Jessica Simpson. EIE seems much less likely, she seems really laidback.

    While we're on 90s pop stars, I also think Mandy Moore is ESE:



    I first got tipped off when she was in some movie with Robin Williams way back.

    New challenge: ESEs that write their own music

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    When it comes to creating art, from a Model A perspective it seems that the temporal/auditory arts (movies and music) involve more Ni, and spatial/visual arts involve somewhat more sensing (Beta NFs are definitely attracted to fashion, but it seems more due to the Se). In Model A2 though, the lack of ESE songwriters may be due to the relatively less importance placed on -Fe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post

    New challenge: ESEs that write their own music
    That is a challenge for sure! But maybe just for me....

    I shy away from writing in general. It's much easier for me to express thoughts verbally than through written word. I find following the structure of writing a little annoying as well. I'm in a somewhat creative field but feel unsure of my creative abilities...Ne Ha maybe? IEE and EII have impressive writing skills I find.

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