Results 1 to 22 of 22

Thread: Functions and headaches

  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    TIM
    TiNe
    Posts
    7,967
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default Functions and headaches

    Does using certain functions for long periods give you a headache?

  2. #2
    Coldest of the Socion EyeSeeCold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Holy Temple of St. Augusta
    Posts
    3,693
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I've been thinking the same thing!

    I sometimes get headaches after heavy periods of mental stimulation.
    (i)NTFS

    An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
    and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI

    31.9FM KICE Radio ♫ *56K Warning*
    My work on Inert/Contact subtypes

    Socionics Visual Identification(V.I.) Database
    Socionics Tests Database
    Comprehensive List of Socionics Sites


    Fidei Defensor

  3. #3
    24601 ClownsandEntropy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    TIM
    LII, 5w6
    Posts
    670
    Mentioned
    23 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Circular Functions - especially derivatives.

    I would imagine that any type of heavy thinking would lead to headache, so I would think any of the functions that aren't in your ego, and when you are trying to achieve some type of quality through their use. Because you can't really get into a sense of "flow" and because you don't feel as comfortable/aren't as capable using them.
    Warm Regards,



    Clowns & Entropy

  4. #4
    not gonna be around as much anymore
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    TIM
    C-IEE
    Posts
    1,258
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Yeah, Ti and Se.
    My life's work (haha):
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/blog.php?b=709
    Input, PLEASEAnd thank you

  5. #5
    MysticSonic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    2,993
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I don't really ever get headaches, so no, not really.
    "To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"

    "Angels dancing on the head of a pin dissolve into nothingness at the bedside of a dying child."

  6. #6
    ._. Aiss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    TIM
    IEI
    Posts
    2,015
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Demonstrative Ti does. Not just comprehending it, which is mostly fine, but using it, speaking this language - like when Ti types ask/expect/demand reply in these terms because otherwise it's too vague or whatever.

    (And I don't mean literally headaches. So if that's what you mean, 3d movies are worse than any function.)

  7. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    TIM
    TiNe
    Posts
    7,967
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSonic View Post
    I don't really ever get headaches, so no, not really.
    Try focusing exclusively on the environment around you, without imagining anything at all. Try to keep doing it for 30 seconds.

    And for you sensors, try ignoring your environment by diving deep into your imagination -- WITHOUT reaching into political fantasy.
    Last edited by tcaudilllg; 01-13-2011 at 12:48 PM.

  8. #8
    aka Slacker Slacker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    North Korea
    TIM
    IEE
    Posts
    8,819
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    If you're in an environment where you have to use weak functions for a period of time, that can cause stress and frustration, which can cause headaches.

  9. #9
    star stuff April's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    chatbox
    TIM
    NG human sorcerer
    Posts
    917
    Mentioned
    56 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    Try focusing exclusively on the environment around you, without imagining anything at all. Try to keep doing it for 30 seconds.
    Can anybody actually do this? I mean, even sensors...? I can only go 5 seconds.

  10. #10
    UDP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    East Coast West Coast Dirty South
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    14,826
    Mentioned
    33 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    You guys must fail hard at meditation.

    And no, "S types" don't have it easier - over-focusing on processing immediate data isn't and different in calming your mind than over-focusing on non-immediate physical data.

    ....being aware enough to control your own mind and mental energies is important for your health in a lot of ways. And while "I may not like to dabble extensively" in certain forms of intuitive thinking, or emotional expression, sure, I think it comes down to matter of understanding and control in terms of understanding your own health and limits, etc.

    Of course, we will probably seen that being written off as "strong Si"
    Pre-2013 post are written with incomplete understanding.

  11. #11
    UDP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    East Coast West Coast Dirty South
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    14,826
    Mentioned
    33 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    Try focusing exclusively on the environment around you, without imagining anything at all. Try to keep doing it for 30 seconds.

    And for you sensors, try ignoring your environment by diving deep into your imagination -- WITHOUT reaching into political fantasy.
    I can do both.


    I seriously suggest that this is less to do with "functional alignment" and more to do with lack of training or exercising the mind. If you are so used to overprocessing your mind in only one way, and it hurts to not use it for one way for 30 seconds, I think that's bad news bears.

    But I also think there is a big difference between voluntarily putting yourself through an exercise like that and being forced to do so in an uncomfortable situation. If you're having trouble doing such a thing on your own will, then I suggest some form of therapy or exercising (or meditation practice) so that you can ... become less brittle and more open.
    Pre-2013 post are written with incomplete understanding.

  12. #12
    star stuff April's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    chatbox
    TIM
    NG human sorcerer
    Posts
    917
    Mentioned
    56 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu View Post
    You guys must fail hard at meditation.
    So hard. I'd be overstimulated in a sensory deprivation chamber.

  13. #13
    UDP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    East Coast West Coast Dirty South
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    14,826
    Mentioned
    33 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    maybe you should look into that...
    Pre-2013 post are written with incomplete understanding.

  14. #14
    squark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    2,121
    Mentioned
    140 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Invention and bullshitting. Explaining things in long round-about complicated ways, regardless of subject matter, makes me feel sick. In my opinion, the more words that are used, the easier it is for the truth to hide. Obscuring the truth from myself or others, bugs me. It makes my head hurt, and makes me sad. Overcomplicated and flowery language, is often just a lot of twists and turns put on a giant steaming pile of shit. It's not a fxn that makes my head hurt. It's dishonesty that does.

  15. #15
    Coldest of the Socion EyeSeeCold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Holy Temple of St. Augusta
    Posts
    3,693
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Invention and bullshitting. Explaining things in long round-about complicated ways, regardless of subject matter, makes me feel sick. In my opinion, the more words that are used, the easier it is for the truth to hide. Obscuring the truth from myself or others, bugs me. It makes my head hurt, and makes me sad. Overcomplicated and flowery language, is often just a lot of twists and turns put on a giant steaming pile of shit. It's not a fxn that makes my head hurt. It's dishonesty that does.


    Although this has nothing to do with the thread.
    (i)NTFS

    An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
    and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI

    31.9FM KICE Radio ♫ *56K Warning*
    My work on Inert/Contact subtypes

    Socionics Visual Identification(V.I.) Database
    Socionics Tests Database
    Comprehensive List of Socionics Sites


    Fidei Defensor

  16. #16
    squark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    2,121
    Mentioned
    140 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post


    Although this has nothing to do with the thread.
    yeah, I know. But, functions don't give me headaches.

  17. #17
    Trevor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    2,860
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Negative Taciturness . Well, it's not really a headache but it hurts.

  18. #18
    Don't forget the the thehotelambush's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    TIM
    LII
    Posts
    6,633
    Mentioned
    159 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Using gives me a headache too.

  19. #19
    when you see the booty Galen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    everywhere at once
    Posts
    8,451
    Mentioned
    204 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Trying to emulate Se can make me dizzy. I'm not accustomed to observing the objects in my immediate environment, so everything becomes a giant blur that just makes my eyes hurt.

  20. #20
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    TIM
    TiNe
    Posts
    7,967
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    OK, so all the intuitives seem to be having trouble shutting off their imaginations (without adopting "serious, tense" attitudes).

    Do I have confirmation that all of the LIIs here, have difficulty shutting off their imaginations? What about the LSIs? What are their experiences with imagination?

  21. #21
    peteronfireee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    TIM
    LSI
    Posts
    521
    Mentioned
    26 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    OK, so all the intuitives seem to be having trouble shutting off their imaginations (without adopting "serious, tense" attitudes).

    Do I have confirmation that all of the LIIs here, have difficulty shutting off their imaginations? What about the LSIs? What are their experiences with imagination?
    depends on the situation i guess... you talking about day dreaming? generating different ideas?

    dirty imaginations...they come easily

    day dreaming about certain things/people...they come on occasion.

    imagining about how things can go wrong in the near future...very good at that lol.

    my brother coming up to me, "yo give me some plot ideas for this film"...uh i suck at generating new ideas.

  22. #22
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    TIM
    TiNe
    Posts
    7,967
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I'll assign a task for myself, and do the task subconsciously as I think in very great depth about something. I whenever I think about something, I associate an image with it. There are no words without images. The images flicker in my mind's eye for at most 2 seconds each, and in quick succession. I only think about the things in my environment when I need to find something -- when I undertake a task, I tend to lay whatever I'm holding at the time in the nearest free spot, and go about doing the new task. If I don't, I'm like to lose my train of thought and have to recover the train of conclusions that lead me to undertake the task. However, I often forget where I laid it. I am particularly forgetful when given instructions from another person.

    Sometimes it will take me a half hour to find something that I had casually laid down then night before. (like my keys)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •