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    Given the dearth of them in the northern U.S., I'd have to say they go where it's most likely to be warm.

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    Churches in Texas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden View Post
    Churches in Texas?
    Not a rule, just a trend.

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    I have so so many ESE friends, I'm surrounded by them. And I'm in the north! They're around. Volunteer for something. The ESEs I know are always volunteering for stuff.

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    The mid-western states. Dunno about other countries.
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    ESEs are just as numerous in most areas as other types. They just tend for the most part to hang out in different social circles than us nerds who study socionics.
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    OK there apparently is some connection between ESEs and church. I did a keyword search for "church" on OKCupid and came up with a bunch. Including one that declared her own...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    ESEs are just as numerous in most areas as other types. They just tend for the most part to hang out in different social circles than us nerds who study socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    OK there apparently is some connection between ESEs and church. I did a keyword search for "church" on OKCupid and came up with a bunch. Including one that declared her own...
    I consider church a Ti/Fe matter.

    The truth(Ti)...will set you free(Fe).
    In other words, if you keep your actions visible and present everything about yourself to others, then you will not feel as guilty of your wrong actions as you are not hiding them from everyone else. People would be more willing to forgive you.

    Church also expects regular attendance and is heavy on atmosphere and social conduct.
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    Yeah yeah basement cat is the devil blah blah... (in reference to Divided's avatar)

    Seriously though I think the ESFJ-INTJ marriage frequency must be abhorrent. Probably because it seems like ESFJs are the most willing to "get to know people", and the most willing to "adjust" to pretty much anybody (except maybe an INTP)

    Plus, the existing MBTI relations lit is winning big over socionics and it's creating divorce city, in my estimation.

    I think the ESFJs are... mostly married. In fact, I'd say there are more married ESFJs than any other type.
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    Sounds like whining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    I consider church a Ti/Fe matter.

    The truth(Ti)...will set you free(Fe).
    In other words, if you keep your actions visible and present everything about yourself to others, then you will not feel as guilty of your wrong actions as you are not hiding them from everyone else. People would be more willing to forgive you.

    Church also expects regular attendance and is heavy on atmosphere and social conduct.
    Could be there's no connection to type, but none of my Beta friends are churchie. At all.

    That said, I like churches (they are mighty atmospheric), just not the religion happening in them.

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    Religion is a free-for-all but you can perceive IM elements in certain aspects. Maybe it is still a subjective matter though.
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    It depends on a specifics of the religion, and then typing it - typing anything, really - doesn't necessarily mean it will only appeal to certain socionics type or that anyone will automatically like it just because. Just like you'd prefer to spend time with an intelligent and kind person of the opposite quadra more than a mean idiot of your own. Presumably.

    I type Catholic church as Beta. There's a very strong focus on Ti-like reason, in Se flavour (Roma locuta, causa finita), with some of Ni reflection and Fe drama thrown in, combining to a bit of mysticism present even today. From what I've heard, protestant churches seem more Te/Fi instead, and many of them also show some Si/Ne leanings.

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