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    Least effort for most return. Type related? Working just enough to do nothing.
    I know its said istp could be described as that but what do you think?
    An ip thing in general? Irrationalilty?

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    Typically Te, but in the back of everyone's minds I think half the world would like to be lazy if it was without negative repercussions.

    But yeah doing the minimum sounds Ixxp.
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    IP > EP.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    i feel a rebellion coming on

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Typically Te, but in the back of everyone's minds I think half the world would like to be lazy if it was without negative repercussions.

    But yeah doing the minimum sounds Ixxp.
    This is why my mom, INTp, would rather tell me what to do then to do with regards to Te and this may be why I get along with my parents...ISTp and INTp, equally.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    You mean instead of doing it themselves?
    Wouldn't that just be being there type then if it was true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Thou View Post
    Sounds related to those type of people who are highly unmotivated or find their success outside of work or in fulfilling activities and are content with nothing.

    Nihilists, perhaps.
    Nihilist is an umbrella term for "person of nothingness". There are different types: metaphysical, rational, empirical, philosophical, existential, ethical, social etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Typically Te,
    This.

    ... but in the back of everyone's minds I think half the world would like to be lazy if it was without negative repercussions.
    And this.

    But yeah doing the minimum sounds Ixxp.
    And also this.

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    I think in general it does fit with IP, unless they truly enjoy what work they do, in which case you might see them putting in some serious effort. Still, once they get out of work they're back to not doing a whole hell of a lot, unless they get into the mood to go do something or other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jughead View Post
    Least effort for most return. Type related? Working just enough to do nothing.
    I know its said istp could be described as that but what do you think?
    An ip thing in general? Irrationalilty?
    Yes, IP in general

    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Typically Te, but in the back of everyone's minds I think half the world would like to be lazy if it was without negative repercussions.

    But yeah doing the minimum sounds Ixxp.
    Te creative + Ixxp = SLI
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Typically Te, but in the back of everyone's minds I think half the world would like to be lazy if it was without negative repercussions.

    But yeah doing the minimum sounds Ixxp.
    Really? What does "doing the minimum" mean to an Exxp? Or what tendency do they ghave in the area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nil View Post
    Really? What does "doing the minimum" mean to an Exxp? Or what tendency do they ghave in the area?
    Work puts restriction on activities. Unless it was stimulating, I'd say "work to get back to unrestricted life".
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    This statement does not apply to ISFp's
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Work puts restriction on activities. Unless it was stimulating, I'd say "work to get back to unrestricted life".
    So IPs work so they can go back to doing nothing, and EPs work so they can go back to doing what the want to do?

    ...

    Seems only semantically different to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    This is why my mom, INTp, would rather tell me what to do then to do with regards to Te and this may be why I get along with my parents...ISTp and INTp, equally.
    My dad is INTp and he prefers to tell me or my mom what do to do then do it himself, lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    This statement does not apply to ISFp's
    Why not? Seems like an IP thing to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jughead View Post
    Least effort for most return. Type related? Working just enough to do nothing.
    I know its said istp could be described as that but what do you think?
    An ip thing in general? Irrationalilty?
    typical IP

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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    Te creative + Ixxp = SLI
    also ILI

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    Why is this thread specifically about Jarno?

    Oh wait...

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    IPs aren't lazy you silly people. They just naturally take the course of least resistance to limit energy expenditure.

    The reason they would ever do anything like the OP suggests is probably because they value their freedom to pursue any goal or hobby the feel like at a time. Their irrationality does not mesh with an overly structured work and routine-like schedule and are probably more accustomed to spending long periods of time alone doing what they will (no one does 'nothing' you crazy bastards).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeptic View Post
    IPs aren't lazy you silly people. They just naturally take the course of least resistance to limit energy expenditure.
    How else would you call that?
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    How else would you call that?
    Efficient.


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    mmkay.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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