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    Gamma irrational.
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    Beta NF because your name is like shakespeare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Beta NF because your name is like shakespeare.
    I know you're not serious, but romanticism is a result of so it can show a little in Gamma. I choose not to express that side because I think it's cheesy.
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    SEE-Fi.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Gamma irrational.
    interesting, since I couldn't get a clear grasp of Ni or Se base either though I got the same impression
    Mr Thou, I get the impression that you value ++ but don't take that as anything more than a guess on my part
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    No problem!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Thou View Post
    How would I know if I was SEE?
    Impatient, emotionally expressive and volatile; all point towards Ethical/Irrational and against Fe-PoLR. You describe yourself as reserved and taciturn in groups but open and friendly with friends, which points to Fi-valuation. Overall you give off a somewhat brash and aggressive vibe which points to strong Se (in particular being very very stubborn is a strong point against N-leading). As for subtype, you overall give the impression of a reserved and somewhat neurotic person, but without a particularly well-defined rules structure.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    No problem!



    ISFj.
    What's with the knife?
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Yeah, SEE sounds very much right.

    Also, you commented on preferring Ni to Se. People actually much prefer their suggestive to their leading, as their suggestive complements their dominant, and is something they're not very good at generating. As a result they can't get enough of it.

    So it stands to reason if you are SEE, that your very favorite function would be Ni.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    What's with the knife?
    To cut "Gamma irrational" in half?

    Anyway I think the deciding factor is emotional drive vs physical inertia. Those two qualities are completely distinct between the two types.

    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post

    Beta Se (Strength) <-> Gamma Se (Right) <-> Gamma Fi (value) <-> Delta Fi (Drive)

    Beta Se (Aggression) <-> Gamma Se (Entitlement) <-> Gamma Fi (Equity) <-> Delta Fi (Desire)
    SEE is focused on "acquisition of value" more than ILI. For the latter, those aspects are unconscious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    What's with the knife?
    thread title: "take a stab at me."

    it took me a second to figure out too. at first i was like woah does he really hate his conflictors that much?

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    lol, and I thought I wouldn't get most jokes on here. j/k
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    Talk about oblivious...
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    Leo DiCaprio is SLE-Se, your kindred.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Leo DiCaprio is SLE-Se, your kindred.
    I initially thought the knife was to threaten you for being too assertive again!!!
    "Everyone carries a shadow, and the less it is embodied in the individual’s conscious life, the blacker and denser it is.
    At all counts, it forms an unconscious snag, thwarting our most well-meant intentions."

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