The Locus of Control

[snowyc]

A quasi-related 20-point true/false test to introversion/extroversion known as the "locus of control" i.e. how we let internal or external factors/phenomena affect our life's choices/successes.

More info @ Wikipedia.

FYI I scored 65 where 65-80 approximates with "Internal locus of control".

In conclusion I would agree that for me personally things like "luck" and "chance" will not primarily direct my successes in life but rather self-motivated conscious effort from within thus my fate would seem accountable to my self. Afterall, a little bit of "luck" and "chance" would likely stem from an initial action from my self.

[Joy]

You scored 65 Internal locus of control

[Fermi]

60

edit; I think the questions were a little bad..

[Gilly]

You scored 75

[schrödinger's cat]

You scored 60

Agree with Superman. The questions are a bit odd.

[Jimbean]

80 biotches!!!!!!!

[Joy]

I don't know, they were certainly abstract, but I wouldn't call them "bad"...

There "seemed" to be an underlying methodology behind the questions.

[snowyc]

in essence, do you blame your circumstances on internals or externals?

[FDG]

Useless. There is no correlation, as you can see.

[Joy]

Useless. There is no correlation, as you can see.

Yeah, but it can be interpreted as something different than a simple introversion/extroversion test.

But I agree, essentially, that the test seems to contain a hefty scoop of bollocks.

[Jimbean]

I think a lot of this is about independence.

[snowyc]

I think a lot of this is about independence.

Yes - comparing it to introversion/extroversion would now seem to me as misleading since i agree with FDG that "there is no correllation".

The notion of a "locus of control" would seem to me to simply relate to making things happens from within vs allowing things to happen to you from the outside.

Then perhaps we could draw up a list of "good-for-me/bad-for-me" as a foundation for a self-coaching exercise.

[Jimbean]

I think a lot of this is about independence.

Yes - comparing it to introversion/extroversion would now seem to me as misleading since i agree with FDG that "there is no correllation".

The notion of a "locus of control" would seem to me to simply relate to making things happens from within vs allowing things to happen to you from the outside.

Then perhaps we could draw up a list of "good-for-me/bad-for-me" as a foundation for a self-coaching exercise.

Did you see the PM I sent you?

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Angel von Himmel]

Useless. There is no correlation, as you can see.

Actually, there is complete correlation ... unless you want to follow shitty stereotypical dictonomies of course, then there is no correlation.

[FDG]

Useless. There is no correlation, as you can see.

Actually, there is complete correlation ... unless you want to follow shitty stereotypical dictonomies of course, then there is no correlation.

The results of the people here speak otherwise.

[Slacker]

I scored an 85.

The questions were mainly about whether you think things occur by chance or as a result of effort. How is that an indication of extraversion/introversion?

[MysticSonic]

50.

[Joy]

75

[Angel von Himmel]

Useless. There is no correlation, as you can see.

Actually, there is complete correlation ... unless you want to follow shitty stereotypical dictonomies of course, then there is no correlation.

The results of the people here speak otherwise.

Or maybe people are totally mistyped, but that is another debate altogether.

[Angel von Himmel]

I scored an 85.

The questions were mainly about whether you think things occur by chance or as a result of effort. How is that an indication of extraversion/introversion?

Because someone who has an outer locus of control is influenced most by his or her enviroment and outside forces, whereas someone with an inner locus of control is primarily influenced by inward sources of control.

[Joy]

Life is 10% what happens to us and 90% what we do about it.

Yeah, I know it's cliche. Bite me.

[flower]

Aww, I only got 25........ but maybe I was unlucky

[Transigent]

Edited for gayness.

[snowyc]

According to this test: A lower score approximates to an external locus of control/influence and a higher score approximates to an internal locus of control/influence.

Without trying to imply which way may seem "right" or "good" to me or you I wondered what seems "normal" or preferred to different types.

We have already seen the issue of independence raised and "life is...90% what we do about it" implying normality towards an internal locus.

Does personality type produce a disposition towards a "locus of control" orientation in your character?

[Angel von Himmel]

According to this test: A lower score approximates to an external locus of control/influence and a higher score approximates to an internal locus of control/influence.

Without trying to imply which way may seem "right" or "good" to me or you I wondered what seems "normal" or preferred to different types.

We have already seen the issue of independence raised and "life is...90% what we do about it" implying normality towards an internal locus.

Does personality type produce a disposition to a "locus of control" orientation in your character?

Possibly, but nevertheless dualization should theoretically cause each partner to have a more managable locus of control. The introvert will learn to let go a little to the possibility of what other people can offer him or her and the extrovert will learn to be a little more self-conscious.

[flower]

We have already seen the issue of independence raised and "life is...90% what we do about it" implying normality towards an internal locus.

Surely this 'normailty' is due to the morals we inherit from society. In a system of capitalism, of which the ideal is a free market where all are free to compete, we are always told that you make your own luck in life and success is the result of hard work etc etc, because it supports the system.
But in reality, only a quasi-free market exists, and so luck and circumstance do play a role, and in my experience of life, a fairly large one.

[Angel von Himmel]

By the way, I scored 70 ...

[Gilly]

The general trend seems for introverts to score lower and extroverts higher, for some strange reason. Perhaps there is an inverse relationship?

[Joy]

it makes perfect sense for higher scores to point toward introversion.

what's normality?

[Apollonian]

These questions don't seem to be very well written.

Isn't one supposed to avoid terms like "always" and "never" in surveys like this? And when the difference of one question is 5 points?

I am somewhere between 70 and 85

Isn't this what people call "Attribution Theory" ? Which would also include the concepts of optimism/pessimism?

[Joy]

These questions don't seem to be very well written.

Isn't one supposed to avoid terms like "always" and "never" in surveys like this? And when the difference of one question is 5 points?

lol Ti

I am somewhere between 70 and 85

lol Ne

Isn't this what people call "Attribution Theory" ? Which would also include the concepts of optimism/pessimism?

I haven't heard of this theory, but I agree. I believe that it's my positive thinking that allows me the freedom to believe that luck is created. See my sig.

[Angel von Himmel]

it makes perfect sense for higher scores to point toward introversion.

Higher scores do point towards introversion and lower scores extroversion, but not always ... the age of a person and their experiences in life is also a factor in it, but not completely. It still coorelates to a certain degree.

[FDG]

I scored an 85.

The questions were mainly about whether you think things occur by chance or as a result of effort. How is that an indication of extraversion/introversion?

Because someone who has an outer locus of control is influenced most by his or her enviroment and outside forces, whereas someone with an inner locus of control is primarily influenced by inward sources of control.

So you believe that everyone that doesn't fit in this rather off-base schema is mystyped?

Or that everyone here is introvert?

Internal locus of control as measured by tests like this just measures the degree of fatalism and indipendence of a give person, period.

[FDG]

I am somewhere between 70 and 85

lol Ne

NO.

Isn't this what people call "Attribution Theory" ?

No. Attribution theory deals with a posteriori judgements of event, not with decision-making.[/img]

[Apollonian]

No. Attribution theory deals with a posteriori judgements of event, not with decision-making.

Ah yes, I see the distinction. "Locus of Control" is an operational stage after attribution. For many people, however, there is little gap between the two. For some of my friends who have struggled with depression for example, the gap is unrecognizable to them. Their attribution of events seems to directly influence their thoughts and actions because they are not aware of the nature of their thoughts and actions.

In the reverse case, it is amazing the extent to which a person may avoid acting upon the attribution of events by using cognitive awareness. By understanding cognitive distortion and cognitive bias (not to mention socionics), one may see the link between environmental stimuli (attribution) and internal processing (control).

Am I correct, or is this my bias? :wink:

[Slacker]

I scored an 85.

The questions were mainly about whether you think things occur by chance or as a result of effort. How is that an indication of extraversion/introversion?

Because someone who has an outer locus of control is influenced most by his or her enviroment and outside forces, whereas someone with an inner locus of control is primarily influenced by inward sources of control.

So I'm the most introverted person here?

[emeye]

I would not see locus of control as introverted/extroverted dichotomy, but that what it really is: pushover/pigheaded dichotomy. I am pretty much a pushover...

[snowyc]

Indeed

[Angel von Himmel]

I scored an 85.

The questions were mainly about whether you think things occur by chance or as a result of effort. How is that an indication of extraversion/introversion?

Because someone who has an outer locus of control is influenced most by his or her enviroment and outside forces, whereas someone with an inner locus of control is primarily influenced by inward sources of control.

So you believe that everyone that doesn't fit in this rather off-base schema is mystyped?

Or that everyone here is introvert?

Internal locus of control as measured by tests like this just measures the degree of fatalism and indipendence of a give person, period.

Jung got the idea of "extroversion" and "introversion" from the idea of karma and feedback loops in the system of reincarnation, which is also where the idea of the "inner" and "outer" locus of control came from. So, if you want to attempt to argue that they are diffrent on account of some biased dictonomy that Jung did not make nor even possibly agrees with, go ahead. But, they are of the same system and of same origion and in that aspect the same eternal concept.