Quadra Progression - A new model

[Creepy-male]

Bear with me, I don't have the energy to put as much effort into articulating this as it deserves....

The typical model for quadra progression is the following....


Alpha |--> Beta |---> Gamma |--> Delta

Intellectual Revolution |--> Society Paradigm Shift |--> Industrial Revolution |--> Social Stabilization

Democratic |--> Aristocratic |--> Democratic |--> Aristocratic


Each quadra is represented in sequence as a society progresses forward....

Let's call this Model X1






I propose a different model, Model X2

Instead each quadra is represented at all times like layers superimposed on a common reality. Think of it sort of like gears, as events turn in the "beta" layer, this affects the "gamma" and "alpha layer, which in turn effects the "delta" layer. All quadras are equally represented in society and interconnected.

In other Words.....

| - alpha/delta connection
|
Alpha |---> progresses forward
|
| - alpha/beta connection
|
Beta |---> progresses forward
|
| - beta/gamma connection
|
Gamma|---> progresses forward
|
| - gamma/delta connection
|
Delta |---> progresses forward
|
| - delta/alpha connection



| - perceptual node (Ne/Si)
| - impact of intellectual achievements on society (Ne, Si)
|
Democratic Intellectual Evolution of Society
|
| - intellectual revolution (enlightenment)
| - changes in the role of person in society
| - value node (Ti, Fe)
|
Aristocratic Paradigm Shifts of Society
|
| - revolution/military/industrial complex (militant coup, revolt)
| - changes in how work is done before/after revolution
| - perceptual node (Se, Ni)
|
Democratic Industrial Evolution of Society
|
| - impact of industry on mainstream society
| - establishment of infrastructure
| - value node (Fi, Te)
|
Aristocratic Social Stabilization
|
| - impact of intellectual achievements on society
| - perceptual node (Ne, Si)




The import elements to pay attention to are...

• Nodes - Perceptual or Value
• Quadra - Democratic or Aristocratic

Nodes
The separation between layers of quadras... information travels between quadras in this form. It is either a shift in perception (being a perceptual function Si,Se,Ni,Ne) or a shift in values. Betas and Gamma for example share a node of perception in Ni and Se. Most of the node involves the exchange of information concerning Ni and Se. Between an industrially oriented democratic quadra, a facet of society, and a more revolutionary oriented aristocratic quadra. A grounded analysis would be the shift from romanticism in history towards modernization, passing through gamma via the industrial revolution. Usually the node is concerned with how industrial infrastructure changes as a result of social revolution occuring in beta. Usually this is a matter of Se (doing things differently) and Ni (major concept shifts). It's largely perceptual, things are looked at differently, but no values are passed between the quadras as their are no common rational functions between betas and gammas.

Quadra
These are separate spheres or zones for societial evolution. Different subcultures if you will. Like how in society you may have american society imposed atop asain cultures, with vastly different values and evolution. Each quadra in a sense is a subculture undergoing its individual evolution being influenced by the surrounding quadras. Recieving outside input from the two other quadras in terms of values and perception. Alphas for example are constantly modifying their values based on betas (they share Ti/Fe) as Betas modify their values based on alphas. However Alphas perceptions are constantly being modified by their perceptual shifts with delta (they share Si/Ne). Alphas change perceptions considering the impact their quadra has on society and change their values in a similar manner with beta. In a sense Beta and Delta serve as arisocratic structures which moves together. Beta is revolutionary and ambitious, and delta is stable/humane/practical, with gammas serving as an industrial buffer and alphas serving as an intellectual buffer. With values and perceptual changes being passed via the nodes.

[EyeSeeCold]

Interesting. You can clearly see this happening on a small scale perspective, people with similar perceptions trade views/experiences, but do not necessarily adopt new values due to having different judgments.

I'll be studying it some more to gain a clearer mental picture.

[Blaze]

we've been bandying ideas like this about for awhile and you have put it into a realistic package. nice job!

how would you apply the left and right ring of supervision and benefit to your concepts?

[Aleksei]

Well, society at large is largely Delta (and Gamma SF) regardless of what's going on around it, and I've conversely never seen a society ruled by Deltas, so there's that flaw to your model. It otherwise looks pretty good though. I'd shape it as follows:

Alpha -> Beta -> Gamma

Vision -> Change -> Status quo

A good example of this is probably the Soviet Union. Alpha geek's ideas (Marx/ LII), leading to Beta revolt and regime (Stalin/LSI, Lenin/SLE, Trotsky/EIE -- predictably there could only be one in the end), leading to Gamma leadership (Pulitburo after Stalin's death).

[Pa3s]

I've conversely never seen a society ruled by Deltas

In another thread I stated that Prussia could be a Delta society or at least ruled in a Delta way. If it comes to personal rights, they were progressive compared to other countries and they were also quite tolerant. (In contrast to their stereotype.) But on the other handside, they kept the three-class election sstem (which benefits the rich people) the longest time of all German states (aristocratic).

A good example of this is probably the Soviet Union. Alpha geek's ideas (Marx/ LII), leading to Beta revolt and regime (Stalin/LSI, Lenin/SLE, Trotsky/EIE -- predictably there could only be one in the end), leading to Gamma leadership (Pulitburo after Stalin's death).

Does that imply: Beta - dictatorship, Gamma - oligarchy (in terms of an one-party-government)?

[Aleksei]

For the most part yes, but Gamma dictators have also existed, and many members of the general elite are Beta (mostly Beta ST). Though I hold that society is always and forever ruled by a narrow clique of elites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy) -- whether held by a one party government or not.

[Creepy-male]

Well, society at large is largely Delta (and Gamma SF) regardless of what's going on around it, and I've conversely never seen a society ruled by Deltas, so there's that flaw to your model. It otherwise looks pretty good though. I'd shape it as follows:

Well I'm not saying delta is a ruler, more so than an ethos, a subculture which effectively "rules" because it presents stability to a society that doesn't exist otherwise. The Si of delta allows a slow kind of conservative stability to society.

In america I tend to think delta/gamma are more conservative, but gamma conservatives are the "I don't need the government controlling my life and money" corporate conservatives, and the deltas are the "America needs to return to its idyllic nation of farmers conservative ideals" moral conservatives.

[KeroZen]

It's fun because I don't have the same stereotypes about USA as a French citizen...

If I look at the dirty south hillbillies dragster and nascar fans I see a stereotype, if I look at the LA gangsters I see another, in the numerous Marines and other soldier-oriented cultures I see others, the average New Yorker a completely different one...

So what USA stereotype is the real american integral type? The kind of humor on break.com or collegehumor.com? The one in "friends" or "how I met your mother?" or more the one in "desperate housewives"?... the yankee spirit? people having flags in front of their house?

See everyone can see what he/she wants to see. I could do the same for my own country btw, the average Parisian has nothing to do with the average country side peon, but they're equally numerous...