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    Courtney Ford & Brandon Routh

    ? this is just a hunch, because i don't have much information about them.




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    Voltaire and Marquise Émilie du Châtelet.


    Murray and Jo-Ann Rothbard.


    Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    Ashton Kutcher EIE & Demi Moore LSI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun
    i have wondered before if Eva Braun was LSI (just because Hitler was EIE)

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    Ashton Kutcher EIE & Demi Moore LSI
    yup

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    Courtney Ford & Brandon Routh

    ? this is just a hunch, because i don't have much information about them.

    YouTube - Brandon Routh & Courtney Ford talk superpowers!

    Wow. beautiful people.
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    Weird how similar they look and weird how couples often look so much like each other.

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    Ahton kutcher is a pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    Ahton kutcher is a pussy.
    Also, kidding star?

    Kutcher is ESI.
    Wife's a SLE.

    Routh is clearly SLE.
    Ford's either IEI, LIE, or SLI, just from that tiny clip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardrunningrabbit View Post
    Kutcher is ESI.
    Wife's a SLE.
    Nope.
    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

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    Yeah EIE - LSI makes perfect sense. Also look at their positive relationship with Demi’s ex Bruce Willis, who I think is SLE. I mean, what are the chances that things would end up so positive between the three of them?? Beta Quadra relations ftw.









    Oh, and Ashton Kutcher is definitely Gillys identical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Bruce Willis, who I think is a possible SLE
    I think this too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Nope.
    Touche.

    Willis is the LSE you're looking for, which helps explain why sx/so e6 ESI Ash gets along all buddy buddy like w/him.

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    Willis could be any kind of withdrawn ST (LSI is my bet), but there is no, fucking, way, that the creator of Punk'd is an Fi type, much less Fi-dominant. Kutcher is EIE.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Thank fuck.

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    Yeah, and people still keep typing Kutcher as SLI which just completely blows my mind. He has to be my dual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardrunningrabbit View Post
    Touche.

    Willis is the LSE you're looking for
    Agree on Willis = LSE. Delta ST at the very least.

    And i agree with Kutcher being EIE (I used to think IEE, but hesitatingly so), especially if you guys identify so much with him, as I dont particularly identify with him. I was thinking Demi might be SLI, but I'm not great at recognizing female SLIs tbh.
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    I think Demi is LSI. Do men find Rumor attractive? Her body is amazing but the face is kinda I guess that's what you get when you breed with Willis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    I think Demi is LSI. Do men find Rumor attractive? Her body is amazing but the face is kinda I guess that's what you get when you breed with Willis.
    I think her face is ok (in that pic anyway). I'm not male though, so i have no idea. To each his own i guess.
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    It's just so.........LONG. Like you could ski off it or something. There has to be some sort of jaw-cutting-off plastic surgery out there.

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    Her chin/jaw is too big & her mouth is too small. Its an unfortunate combination.

    Bruce Willis LSE? Sorry but I just don't see it. SLE makes far more sense for him, especially if you take the inter type relations into account.
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    hmm.... rizzo and kenickie from grease?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Willis could be any kind of withdrawn ST (LSI is my bet), but there is no, fucking, way, that the creator of Punk'd is an Fi type, much less Fi-dominant.
    True story.

    Isn't that show basically all ? Like just messing with people to see their reactions?

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    I think Micheal Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones are EIE-LSI
    Maybe Johnny Cash and June Carter were too
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    Hm..
    Are those "halfmoon" eyes (for lack of a better word) typical in LSI women when they smile?

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    Bruce Willis is boring. All his movies put me to sleep.

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    I like Bruce Willis in The Color of Night and Fifth Element especially. The Color of Night is a rather crappy movie and I think that's my favorite (I really like crappy movies for some reason). The Die Hard movies though just seem to be about how much he can bleed throughout the film (the genre of police film with lots of action and the cop with an attitude problem/on suspension with the bad relationship with the wife, where someone always ends up on a stretcher at the end).

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    Iman & David Bowie

    this is another hunch of mine, a while ago i had thought these two could be duals...



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    also, i agree that Bruce Willis is more likely SLE than LSE. Starfall has a good point, considering the positive relations he has with both his ex-wife and her husband. i also agree that Punk'd isn't oriented, lol.

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    I think that David Bowie is more of an IEI than an EIE. EIEs are the kind of types that often try to project the image of power and confidence, so they often appear "tough". David Bowie looks more like... a polite nice young man, maybe a little refined, stylish, elegant and quirky. He doesn't really have any wild, expansive gestures of many extroverted types, and he often appear more sort of like, for a lack of better word, a stick (especially in this video: ).

    A good example of an EIE is Bono:




    Bono looks like someone you can throw many things at, and he still won't falter. Like most EJs, he appears like a bulldozer.

    Many of the David Bowie's songs are more personal, while many of the U2's songs are more about what everybody else as a whole is feeling (like "Mothers Of The Disappeared").

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    Iman & David Bowie

    this is another hunch of mine, a while ago i had thought these two could be duals...


    YES!
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    I agree David Bowie is probably IEI. Bono is a massive IEE turd though.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    When VIing LSI/EIE, what do you guys specifically look for and why?

    everybody looks the same to me lol

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    For EIE the most telltale sign is flamboyance/outlandishness. We tend to prefer dark colors and like looking stylish, but more often than not we don't know much about aesthetics so the clothes end up being mismatched in a way that makes Alpha SFs cringe in horror. Expression-wise, we usually sport either huge smiles and look excited, or (when we're not being engaged by our environment) we look sad and depressed. EIEs have sad, tragic dispositions, but we do our best to hide it.

    On LSIs I'm actually not sure. The most common trait is probably rigidity in their movements, and of course the ubiquitous mustache.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    David Bowie IEI? Hm. I'd go with EIE>IEI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scissors View Post
    Hm..
    Are those "halfmoon" eyes (for lack of a better word) typical in LSI women when they smile?
    I'm not sure what quality you're describing--didn't ignore your post but can't pinpoint "halfmoon."

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    Sorry Golden - here is a better explanation.

    Take a waning moon and rotate it 90 degrees clockwise and you get the shape of the eyes of all the female LSI's on these pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post


    Nietzsche is IEI. Ayn Rand liked his writing style, but hated his ideas.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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