I pick apart every tiny little flaw in my opponent's statements.
I pick apart every tiny little flaw in my opponent's statements.
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Originally Posted by Victor Gulenko
I don't know how'd you explain this though... Si? Some would actually say Ti, but I see Ti as more of the picking-out-the-details-dickhead-thing that darkside described.
I generally argue in a way in which people can't tell I'm arguing. I ask them a lot of questions and ask them to reach a conclusion on their own based on the sum of their answers. If the issue involves another person, I paint a picture of that person's perspective of the situation and then continue with the aforementioned questions. I lead them to be the ones to build an argument against themselves. People generally don't become defensive unless it's a VERY sensitive subject for them. I don't mind upsetting people for the greater good, but I'm generally pretty good at avoiding that.
In a relationship I don't argue either... I don't do anything. The person I'm with will be able to tell that I'm unhappy, but I don't talk about it until I'm ready, if ever. Being ready means that I've regained control of my emotions.
Which is ironic because you can't stand when people do the same with yours. Is this an ENTp thing?
Don't bitch, I'm genuinely curious.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Which is ironic because you can't stand when people do the same with yours. Is this an ENTp thing?
Don't bitch, I'm genuinely curious.
I wouldn't argue unless its very important to me and I have a lot to say. If that's the case, I blah out how I feel and how I see it and try to make them see it my way and agree with me. I don't nesscary point out their flaws as a person or in their arguements unless I have reached my last resort or is really mad about something. I usually argue if I'm being attacked or feel offended or uhm one of my values are being stepped on. Generally, I try to end it, sometimes I want to keep at it till they forfeit.
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What am I saying: it's a dj thing. I could not possibly associate your pathetic argument style with any type and I hope nobody here will. This goes to illustrate the empirical limits of this forum. If only people would finally get it...
Which is ironic because you can't stand when people do the same with yours. Is this an ENTp thing?
Don't bitch, I'm genuinely curious.
This does not mean it's not fun and somehow potentially meaningful, but the limitations, people, the limitations....
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Don't mind me, I'm jaded. I'm in the pre-caps "YOU FUCKING MORON" stage.
Carry on, lovely people, carry on.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Depends who I'm arguing with.
"To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"
"Angels dancing on the head of a pin dissolve into nothingness at the bedside of a dying child."
Well, what about me for instance? You said that, "I'll change my mind about your type if you ever concede in an argument." Do you really view ISTPs this way? And why?
I want to know where this perception of ISTPs being stubborn comes from, really.
I've never argued with myself and it's hard to look at this objectively. But I'd say I argue fiercely and with emotional arguments, and then give up when things get too involved. Once I've said my peace I don't feel any obligation to continue or get the last word.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
What am I saying: it's a dj thing. I could not possibly associate your pathetic argument style with any type and I hope nobody here will. This goes to illustrate the empirical limits of this forum. If only people would finally get it...
Which is ironic because you can't stand when people do the same with yours. Is this an ENTp thing?
Don't bitch, I'm genuinely curious.
This does not mean it's not fun and somehow potentially meaningful, but the limitations, people, the limitations....
"Well, what about me for instance? You said that, "I'll change my mind about your type if you ever concede in an argument." Do you really view ISTPs this way? And why?
I want to know where this perception of ISTPs being stubborn comes from, really."
Most ISTps ARE stubborn, hence I view it as a typical trait of their type.
However, that statement was more of a hyperbole than anything else.
"To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"
"Angels dancing on the head of a pin dissolve into nothingness at the bedside of a dying child."
I'm told I'm stubborn, but when I say I don't care and don't the other person is right, they seem to be even more irritated
I'm told by everyone I know in person that I'm stubborn and hard-headed.
Oh well.
"To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"
"Angels dancing on the head of a pin dissolve into nothingness at the bedside of a dying child."
It depends on who I'm talking to. I let NeFi determine what the other person is comfortable with. It also very much depends on how strongly I feel about the issue at hand.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
an INTj I know is VERY hard headed
Edited for gayness.
ENTp
Ok, ISTPs are stubborn.
My point is then, where does it come from? Is it an Introverted quality? That's what I'm asking.
@Transigent: I've done that sometimes. It may be Te.
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Mine is like this.
Person A: blah blah blah
FDG: No, blah A is wrong because of X, blah B is wrong because of Y, blah C is wrong because of Z.
Person A: But blah bluh bleh?
FDG: You're dumb, I'm right.
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Devil's advocate. If they want to play along, I have a lot of fun. If they don't want to play, I win. Good for me either way.
lol how INTj of you
lol what?
what you said just reminded me of my favorite intellectual elitest, that's all
I thought I was your favourite intellectual elitist?
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I dunno, how DO I argue?
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