View Poll Results: Which nominees are not good representatives of the IEE type?

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  • Michael J. Fox

    7 30.43%
  • Ferris Bueller

    15 65.22%
  • The Fresh Prince of Bel Air

    19 82.61%
  • Walt Disney

    11 47.83%
  • Carrie Fisher

    10 43.48%
  • Mark Twain

    9 39.13%
  • Natalie Portman

    15 65.22%
  • Amy Poehler

    12 52.17%
  • Tina Fey

    15 65.22%
  • Patch Adams

    13 56.52%
  • The Oracle

    13 56.52%
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Thread: New Type Reps for IEE -- Round 1

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    Default New Type Reps. for IEE -- Round 1

    If you've not done so, please read this thread first.

    In this poll, please select all the nominees that you think are not fit to represent the IEE type. This would include nominees that you don't think are IEE, as well as nominees that you agree are IEE, but you don't think are good representatives of the type for one reason or another.
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    Surely there has been some mistake in Ferris Bueller receiving so many votes. I would suggest resetting the votes for Ferris back to zero with a view to inserting FB into the literature with immediate effect.

    Save Ferris.
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    I'm a life-long Bueller fan too, but...

    You sure he's ? (And, if so, representatively so?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post
    I'm a life-long Bueller fan too, but...

    You sure he's ? (And, if so, representatively so?)
    Well... Broderick is probably EII to start with... Bueller the character is really I think a little bit too awesome to be representative of any particualr type, however... He relies on his personal connections and his ability to connect and understand the distances between others, he is undoubtedly and ethical type, it is I suppose a matter of perspective whether one sees Fi or Fe more strongly in him, however to me the focus is very NeFi, especially in his relations to Cameron, his observations and style of observation regarding his life and potential future, as symbolised by their mirroing of their parents actities through the day. His (what I perceive to be) Ne way of dealing with potential conflict situations... thinking on his feet, avoiding direct conflict, relying on his friends to help him out, whilst at the same time seeing his actions (seemingly genuinely) as character building for for his friends.
    A general lack of respect for authority as displayed in the hotel and at school, is fairly typical and recorded IEE behaviour as is his benevolent manipulation of those around him. He is an Fi politician over Fe emotivist.
    basically... It seems to me at least, that Fb is the perfect IEE, too perfect for any mortal to realistically aspire to, however it's good that he was written, so fineley portrayed and recorded for us to enjoy over and over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soma
    The focus is very NeFi, especially in...his observations...regarding his life and potential future, as symbolized by their mirroring of their parents activities through the day.


    Growing up, I must've watched it a dozen-plus times, but I never once picked up on that.

    Very deep.

    Fb is the perfect IEE, too perfect for any mortal to realistically aspire to, however it's good that he was written, so finely portrayed and recorded for us to enjoy over and over.
    Maybe it's that fictionalized "perfection" that kinda hangs me up on typing the guy. If the ultimate IEE, he's fully that and then some. (That "some" being bits and pieces of who knows how many strong/valued/whatever functions.)

    Whatever the case, though, thanks for giving me something to watch tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post


    Growing up, I must've watched it a dozen-plus times, but I never once picked up on that.

    Very deep.
    Well you don't exactly need a passing grade in Bullshit 101 to see it, but it does help.


    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post
    Maybe it's that fictionalized "perfection" that kinda hangs me up on typing the guy. If the ultimate IEE, he's fully that and then some. (That "some" being bits and pieces of who knows how many strong/valued/whatever functions.)

    Whatever the case, though, thanks for giving me something to watch tonight.
    No worries... enjoy
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    I doubt "The Oracle", Tina Fey, Natalie Portman, Walt Disney and The Fresh Prince as IEEs. I don't really know about everyone else, although I wouldn't want "Patch Adams" as a type representative, or really any of these people.

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    I heard Disney was IEI. Either way, I don't like any of those suggestions. Quit suggesting nobodies!

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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Got any suggestions then?
    Looking for an Archnemesis. Willing applicants contact via PM.

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    I sort of thought the Ferris Bueller character was more consistent with SLE. The manipulation seemed more Se-driven imo.

    IEEs might be scornful of authority figures sometimes, but it's more in the sense of the authority figure needing to earn their respect. Valuing of Fi (and Fi-ego) along with Ne seeing possibilities but never really being sure of the outcome often prevents overt troublemaking or breaking rules like that ime. Ferris Bueller's behavior was not delta at all.

    I also thought Ferris Bueller's girlfriend was IEI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I doubt "The Oracle", Tina Fey, Natalie Portman, Walt Disney and The Fresh Prince as IEEs. I don't really know about everyone else, although I wouldn't want "Patch Adams" as a type representative, or really any of these people.
    Natalie Portman Ti-ILE

    Will Smith SEE

    no opinion on Walt Disney--haven't studied him

    Tina Fey -- not sure. Doesn't seem IEE to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssmall View Post
    Got any suggestions then?
    Vanessa Carlton (Fi-IEE)
    Dakota Fanning (Fi-IEE)
    Ricki Lake (Fi-IEE)
    Evan Lysacek (Fi-IEE)
    Carrie Fischer (Fi-IEE)

    Drew Barrymore (Ne-IEE)
    The snowboarding dude with the red hair (I forget his name) Ne-IEE

    Renee Zellweger, not sure which subtype.
    Michael J. Fox, not sure which subtype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    Vanessa Carlton (Fi-IEE)
    Dakota Fanning (Fi-IEE)
    Ricki Lake (Fi-IEE)
    Evan Lysacek (Fi-IEE)
    Carrie Fischer (Fi-IEE)

    Drew Barrymore (Ne-IEE)
    The snowboarding dude with the red hair (I forget his name) Ne-IEE

    Renee Zellweger, not sure which subtype.
    Michael J. Fox, not sure which subtype.
    I know only half of them. Either way my post was directed at director, as I dont think it is an easy task to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    I sort of thought the Ferris Bueller character was more consistent with SLE. The manipulation seemed more Se-driven imo.

    IEEs might be scornful of authority figures sometimes, but it's more in the sense of the authority figure needing to earn their respect. Valuing of Fi (and Fi-ego) along with Ne seeing possibilities but never really being sure of the outcome often prevents overt troublemaking or breaking rules like that ime. Ferris Bueller's behavior was not delta at all.

    I also thought Ferris Bueller's girlfriend was IEI.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssmall View Post
    I know only half of them. Either way my post was directed at director, as I dont think it is an easy task to do.
    u saying i can't handle it?? YOU SAYING I CAN"T HANDLE IT???!!!!!


    j/k but no really, my typing skillz are getting pretty good if i do say so myself. Anyway I didn't type most of those people. Others did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somavision View Post
    You argue well...
    is this sarcasm or truth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    I heard Disney was IEI. Either way, I don't like any of those suggestions. Quit suggesting nobodies!
    Abs do you like my IEE suggestions? Apparently I have no credibility with Ssmall... :frown:
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    Abs do you like my IEE suggestions? Apparently I have no credibility with Ssmall... :frown:
    I think he meant it was directed at DA because DA is criticising other peoples suggestions without yet providing any suggestions of her own. Which could therefore be regarded as non constructive criticism on DAs part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    I think he meant it was directed at DA because DA is criticising other peoples suggestions without yet providing any suggestions of her own. Which could therefore be regarded as non constructive criticism on DAs part.
    Yup
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    Quote Originally Posted by somavision View Post
    Well... Broderick is probably EII to start with... Bueller the character is really I think a little bit too awesome to be representative of any particualr type, however... He relies on his personal connections and his ability to connect and understand the distances between others, he is undoubtedly and ethical type, it is I suppose a matter of perspective whether one sees Fi or Fe more strongly in him, however to me the focus is very NeFi, especially in his relations to Cameron, his observations and style of observation regarding his life and potential future, as symbolised by their mirroing of their parents actities through the day. His (what I perceive to be) Ne way of dealing with potential conflict situations... thinking on his feet, avoiding direct conflict, relying on his friends to help him out, whilst at the same time seeing his actions (seemingly genuinely) as character building for for his friends.
    A general lack of respect for authority as displayed in the hotel and at school, is fairly typical and recorded IEE behaviour as is his benevolent manipulation of those around him. He is an Fi politician over Fe emotivist.
    basically... It seems to me at least, that Fb is the perfect IEE, too perfect for any mortal to realistically aspire to, however it's good that he was written, so fineley portrayed and recorded for us to enjoy over and over.
    haha wow this is a good in-depth analysis into Bueller my friend

    btw I agree that he is a rather charismatic if not extreme portrayal of IEE and thus wouldn't expect the average one to relate to him, however he is one of the few well known examples of IEE I could think of, but he does personify, IMO, what I think of when I see >> in action
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssmall View Post
    Yup
    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    I think he meant it was directed at DA because DA is criticising other peoples suggestions without yet providing any suggestions of her own. Which could therefore be regarded as non constructive criticism on DAs part.
    Oh.

    What threw me was the "which is not an easy task to do." Was pretty easy for me, actually. But now i see that he meant it's a difficult task to have Abs provide her own list.

    Thanks, dual, for explaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WA
    Vanessa Carlton (Fi-IEE)
    Dakota Fanning (Fi-IEE)
    Ricki Lake (Fi-IEE)
    Evan Lysacek (Fi-IEE)
    Carrie Fischer (Fi-IEE)

    Drew Barrymore (Ne-IEE)
    The snowboarding dude with the red hair (I forget his name) Ne-IEE

    Renee Zellweger, not sure which subtype.
    Michael J. Fox, not sure which subtype.
    Ooh, ooh. Shaun White!

    Perfect type rep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post
    Ooh, ooh. Shaun White!

    Perfect type rep.

    YEAH!!! Shaun White!!! Thanks CiLI!!

    ooooh, and you quoted me in your sig
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    That ain't no sig, WA.

    That's the future of Socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    I think he meant it was directed at DA because DA is criticising other peoples suggestions without yet providing any suggestions of her own. Which could therefore be regarded as non constructive criticism on DAs part.
    I don't know Anon's suggestions any better than the others. For IEE I could suggest Jon Arbuckle or Don Knotts.

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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    i messed up the poll since i didn't read and follow the directions. as a matter of fact i messed up a couple of these polls. sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    i messed up the poll since i didn't read and follow the directions. as a matter of fact i messed up a couple of these polls. sorry!
    lol so did half the forum. I wonder if it's a p thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat View Post
    lol so did half the forum. I wonder if it's a p thing?
    It's an attention thing

    Aiss and I just barely caught the "not" direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanks Arthur View Post
    It's an attention thing

    Aiss and I just barely caught the "not" direction.
    I just assume that people aren't going to flip the question to it's opposite from what was asked in the thread title (unless subt made the thread )

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    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post


    That ain't no sig, WA.

    That's the future of Socionics.
    Oooooh! Even better!!!

    I didnt' even come up with the typing (even though I agree with it). The deltans did as a group during the olympics last February! I forget who actually made the first suggestion--sorry i'm not giving credit where credit is due. There's a thread about it though somewhere in the Delta forum.

    p.s. oh maybe you should insert "wild" before "red hair"--that'll be even MORE representative!
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