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    Default What is it with evilness and creative Ni?

    There's just something about and that makes ENxjs tend to seem innately evil. The feeling is even stronger with since it is my PoLR. I think it's the eyes, they're penetrating.


    Anyone agree? or Disagree?
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    They're not necessarily evil... people are evil. /obvious

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    Evil is just cool, what can I say...

    Evil lets you do this:

    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    There's just something about and that makes ENxjs tend to seem innately evil. The feeling is even stronger with since it is my PoLR. I think it's the eyes, they're penetrating.


    Anyone agree? or Disagree?
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    I'm sure Se is involved. Love of control + manipulative insight.
    *shudders*
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    They can accurately enough envision change (3-d Ni) and are not afraid to make their own vision reality (Ej), often succeeding? It easily results in jealousy and/or fear in those who don't have quite the same abilities.

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    ENFjs are sort of wannabe-evil with a hopeless incapacity to bring about any of their grandiose plans without external help.

    ENTjs are overrated. They're small-time decision makers. They'll trade around a bit and socially manouver but they're not inclined to make plans that really change their world in groundbreaking ways. They mostly just manouver through the world that's there without imposing their own definition on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    ENFjs are sort of wannabe-evil with a hopeless incapacity to bring about any of their grandiose plans without external help.
    Can anyone bring about grandiose plans without external help? Society is a huge-ass chain of social networks. You need to know somebody who knows somebody to get anything done.

    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    ENTjs are overrated. They're small-time decision makers. They'll trade around a bit and socially manouver but they're not inclined to make plans that really change their world in groundbreaking ways. They mostly just manouver through the world that's there without imposing their own definition on it.
    I'm confused... If ENTjs aren't the mastermind type, then who is?
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    I'm almost sure it's the eyes, now, and the gait also. ENxjs have that suspicious, watchful look about them, like they have some plan brewing.

    I think the 'watchful eye' is an strong Ni thing.
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    I have an EIE dad and he is not evil nor he has a suspicious, watchful look. He's just kind of greedy about stupid things. I think that you're just typing people who are evil as XIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    ... ENxjs have that suspicious, watchful look about them, like they have some plan brewing.

    I think the 'watchful eye' is an strong Ni thing.
    haven't noticed that. Looks more like Beta Ti subtypes, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    I have an EIE dad and he is not evil nor he has a suspicious, watchful look. He's just kind of greedy about stupid things. I think that you're just typing people who are evil as XIE.
    Lol perhaps. But it is always the same characteristic behavior. Not actually "evil" but there's an aura emanating from them.
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    Hmm, just read this in that Reinin book I downloaded from here:
    A Hamlet has constant fear in his/her eyes; the gait as a rule is free, relaxed.
    Sam Kinision, EIE? He was a preacher turned comedian.
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