In the name of curiosity.
SEI w/ ESI mum.
Your type, your mother's type.
In the name of curiosity.
SEI w/ ESI mum.
EII, with ESE mother. EIE may be worth considering as well.
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SEI with ESE mom
Me: Delta NF
Mom: SEI
mom: INFj
ILI, ESE mom. I briefly considered other types, but they obviously don't fit.
ILI - ESE....
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ILE w LSE mom.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
SEI w/ ESE, pretty sure.
LII self, EIE mother.
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ILE, EIE mom.
I'm an LII, and my mom is EII.
Quaero Veritas.
ILI w/ SEI mother
My mom is probably EIE. Going to hopefully confirm a few things with her over Thanksgiving.
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EIE-Ni. EIE-Fe mom.
What do these signs mean—,
, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
My mother is ESI
My mom is: ISTj ((not sure what that is here))
I am: ESFj
My mom and I get along "most" of the time - but she often calls me manipulative, etc. . .
She doesn't like it when I ask her what she wants me to do specifically and then when she tells me, simply agree and go about doing them -- she thinks I'm too passive. . . but when I do speak up then she calls me rebellious. . .
My mom is a no-win scenario.
Sometimes I wonder if I'm doing anything right. . .
Is this often the case between ESFj's and ISTj's??
Simply curious as to how these relationships usually function -- I don't think I get along with any ISTj's that I know. . .
ISTj is ESFj's semi-dual. They tend to be attracted to each other, but never get along properly because their approach to daily life is very different (in your case, action/Se vs relaxation/Si).
If she considers you rebellious she could be ISFj though (which yields an even worse relationship). Just a thought...
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Almost sounds like Supervision, which would make your mom IEI. But I've never met the lady, so don't listen to me.Originally Posted by yellow82
My mom is: ISTj ((not sure what that is here))
I am: ESFj
My mom and I get along "most" of the time - but she often calls me manipulative, etc. . .
She doesn't like it when I ask her what she wants me to do specifically and then when she tells me, simply agree and go about doing them -- she thinks I'm too passive. . . but when I do speak up then she calls me rebellious. . .
My mom is a no-win scenario.
Sometimes I wonder if I'm doing anything right. . .
Is this often the case between ESFj's and ISTj's??
Simply curious as to how these relationships usually function -- I don't think I get along with any ISTj's that I know. . .
Quaero Veritas.
lol at the poll
My moms ILE(Ti) if nobody read about it already
yeah, it's kind of vauge but I was wondering about that too. I'm more inclined to think an LSI would find Ne, and to a point Fi, as manipulative. Maybe if you describe your mom, Yellow, a bit more it might help us to get a better understanding of your intertypeAlmost sounds like Supervision, which would make your mom IEI. But I've never met the lady, so don't listen to me.
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My mom:
VERY introverted -- hardly ever wants to go out to a party, doesn't think that any of us kids need to go out either. Thinks it's often times a waste in gas and we only need to see our friends once or twice a year to keep up with them. . .
She likes to say she used to be an extrovert -- but I really don't believe her.
She's not really into cooking -- but the house has to be spotless all the time!
She can get very stressed and will then yell at us kids for the smallest thing; one of my siblings bangs the door behind them accidentally because the wind caught it. . .
She considers goals, schedules, a clean house, and a moral life as probably the most important stuff ever.
She is ALWAYS thinking about the future.
And that's about all I can think of off the top of my head -- feel free to ask more questions.
Fi-ENFp and Si-ISFp respectively
mom ESI. Very typical quasi-identical relationship.
No way. A Te-PoLR calling their kids passive, or rebellious?
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
could your mom be an ILI?My mom:
VERY introverted -- hardly ever wants to go out to a party, doesn't think that any of us kids need to go out either. Thinks it's often times a waste in gas and we only need to see our friends once or twice a year to keep up with them. . .
She likes to say she used to be an extrovert -- but I really don't believe her.
She's not really into cooking -- but the house has to be spotless all the time!
She can get very stressed and will then yell at us kids for the smallest thing; one of my siblings bangs the door behind them accidentally because the wind caught it. . .
She considers goals, schedules, a clean house, and a moral life as probably the most important stuff ever.
She is ALWAYS thinking about the future.
And that's about all I can think of off the top of my head -- feel free to ask more questions.
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What does ILI stand for?
Sorry -- MBTI user for two years; getting used to socionics. . .
What does ILI stand for?
Sorry -- MBTI user for two years; getting used to socionics. . .NiTe, Intuitive Logical Introvert= ILI
some descriptions of ILI
ILI - WSWiki
Intuitive Logical Introtim - Wikisocion
Stratievskaya ILI - Wikisocion
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I'm not sure ISTj's are that into morality... I'd take your mom for more of an ISTp (which is a more common type for MBTI ISTJs).My mom:
VERY introverted -- hardly ever wants to go out to a party, doesn't think that any of us kids need to go out either. Thinks it's often times a waste in gas and we only need to see our friends once or twice a year to keep up with them. . .
She likes to say she used to be an extrovert -- but I really don't believe her.
She's not really into cooking -- but the house has to be spotless all the time!
She can get very stressed and will then yell at us kids for the smallest thing; one of my siblings bangs the door behind them accidentally because the wind caught it. . .
She considers goals, schedules, a clean house, and a moral life as probably the most important stuff ever.
She is ALWAYS thinking about the future.
And that's about all I can think of off the top of my head -- feel free to ask more questions.
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
INTp (Ni-Te).What does ILI stand for?
Sorry -- MBTI user for two years; getting used to socionics. . .
http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=ILI
Last edited by Aleksei; 11-14-2010 at 06:51 AM.
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
IEI-Ni - IEE-Ne
my dad's (LSI) a fundamentalist Christian and so he's very into morality, though through a veryfilter
.....
none of this sounds like an Si dominant+Ni devaluer IMU...
She can get very stressed and will then yell at us kids for the smallest thing; one of my siblings bangs the door behind them accidentally because the wind caught it. . .
She considers goals, schedules, a clean house, and a moral life as probably the most important stuff ever.
She is ALWAYS thinking about the future.
EII INFj
Forum status: retired
Alpha NT, EII mum.
LII
It's the "clean house" thing that gives me pause. Would an Si-devaluer care?
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
If they're Normalizing subtypes they could (if you follow the DCNH that is...), than it becomes about needing things to be organized rather than cleaning for the sake of fulfilling
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So, your theory is that her mom is an ILI-Fi? That actually makes sense (it makes more sense than SLI come to think of it -- if her mom were SLI she'd be her mom's supervisor, clearly not the case).
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Possibly ESE, SEI also quite likely. Definitely
Depends on the reason they want a "clean house."
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idk what type her mom is, but probably a Se/Ni introvert from the vague descriptions; just throwing ILI out there as a possibility
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I thought ESI, but the whole future-oriented think makes me think Gamma NT is probably right... ILI-Te or LIE-Ni.
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
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