New Type Representatives

[Krig the Viking]

Traditionally, the Russians have assigned names to the types to make them more accessible and understandable, and to provide a sort of "mental picture" of what the type is like. This includes names like Balzac, Zhukov, Gorky, Gabin, etc. This is all well and good, but these names don't exactly strike vivid mental pictures into the minds of English-speakers in the West.

So, we need to come up with our own. Submit your nominations in this thread for characters and people from popular culture to represent each type. After a while, we'll compile the nominations and make a poll to vote on them.

Don't feel obligated to pick someone for each type; just nominate people you feel clearly exemplify their type.

Here are my nominations.

ILE: Doc Brown (Back to the Future)
LII: Spock (Star Trek)
ESE: Bill Cosby
SEI: "The Dude" (The Big Lebowski)

EIE: Martin Luther King Jr.

ESI: Martha Stewart

SLI: Chuck Norris or Red Green (do people know who Red Green is outside of Canada?)

[Creepy-male]

I worry that Doc Brown might be a bit "mad scientist" for ILE.

Similarly, Chuck Norris doesn't really conjure up images of an SLI for me. He's more "that kung-fu action guy who does the roundhouse kicks". Cultural thing perhaps?

Another option for ESE: Jackie Chan.

I like Spock and The Dude.

[Creepy-bg]

mad scientist is perfect for ILE though.

[Creepy-male]

mad scientist is perfect for ILE though.

Sort of. It feels like a shallow stereotype though.

*shrug*

[Creepy-bg]

Sort of. It feels like a shallow stereotype though.

*shrug*

well yeah, if that's all it was then you're right. But Doc Brown wasn't necessarily a shallow character, that's just the part of him that stood out at first.

[Creepy-male]

One vote for Larry David as ILE, but I'm not sure if he counts as pop-culture.

[Words]

Lance Armstrong - LSI
Paul Simon - SLI

[717495]

Just going with popular and good examples known today. Don't comment if you don't agree with the typings. It's my list. Though if you have a better idea but still agree go ahead.

ENTp - O'Brien, Conan
ISFp - Spears, Britney
ESFj - Hilton, Paris
INTj - Marx, Karl

ESTp - Sinatra, Frank
INFp - Timberlake, Justin
ENFj - Aguilera, Christina
ISTj - Clinton, Hillary

ESFp - West, Kanye
INTp - Hendrix, Jimi
ENTj - Diesel, Vin
ISFj - Obama, Barack

ENFp - Disney, Walt
ISTp - Letterman, David
ESTj - Bush, George W.
INFj - Woods, Tiger

[Creepy-bg]

Just going with popular and good examples known today. Don't comment if you don't agree with the typings. It's my list. Though if you have a better idea but still agree go ahead.

ENTp - O'Brien, Conan
ISFp - Spears, Britney
ESFj - Hilton, Paris
INTj - Marx, Karl

ESTp - Sinatra, Frank
INFp - Timberlake, Justin
ENFj - Aguilera, Christina
ISTj - Clinton, Hillary

ESFp - West, Kanye
INTp - Hendrix, Jimi
ENTj - Diesel, Vin
ISFj - Obama, Barack

ENFp - Disney, Walt
ISTp - Letterman, David
ESTj - Bush, George W.
INFj - Woods, Tiger

they should be typings that have less than a 10% arguability factor. . also Karl Marx? really? that's popular culture to you?

[Marie84]

they should be typings that have less than a 10% arguability factor.

same, I don't agree with most of those typings but to each his own

[Creepy-bg]

same, I don't agree with most of those typings but to each his own

I think that we can come up with a list that most over one will agree with, if we just work at it.

[Trevor]

I think this is not a good idea because every one of those individuals has a bunch of traits that are not even type-related. This has all the potential for spreading some more misconceptions.

[xerx]

EII: Cinderella
Wicked Step Sisters - Beta.

[xerx]

All typing threads have been moved into their own subforum in "user articles".

[Shagbag The Wizard]

The famous people that immediately come to mind for me:



ILE - Einstein / Jeff Goldblum / Spielberg
SEI - George Lucas / Mike Posner (?)
ESE - Robin Williams / Tom Cruise
LII - Nicole Kidman / Larry King

EIE - Paula Abdul / Freddie Mercury / Michael Jackson
LSI - Patrick Stewart / Dwayne Johnson (The Rock) / Eminem
SLE - Mike Tyson / Marlon Brando / Chris Brown / Madonna
IEI - Adam Shankman / Rihanna / Laurence Fishburne (Morpheus)

SEE - Stallone / Pink / Mariah Carey / Timbaland (?)
ILI - Britney / Billie Joe Armstrong (Green Day lead vocalist)
LIE - Bill Gates / Brad Pitt / Ben Stiller / Michael Buble (?)
ESI - Kelly Rowland / Jessica Alba / Robbie Williams / Jennifer Connelly / Nelly Furtado

LSE - Schwarzenegger / Bruce Willis / Milla Jovovich / Nigel Lithgoe / Simon Cowell
EII - Keanu Reeves / Jeremy Irons / Sade / Shakira (?)
IEE - Miley Cyrus / Edward James Olmos (BSG) / Katy Perry (?)
SLI - Harrison Ford / Viggo Mortensen / Angelina / Bradley Cooper (?)

[Pa3s]

also Karl Marx? really? that's popular culture to you?

Hey, after that economy crisis shit he becomes more and more popular here. :wink:

[717495]

Just going with popular and good examples known today. Don't comment if you don't agree with the typings. It's my list. Though if you have a better idea but still agree go ahead.

ENTp - O'Brien, Conan
ISFp - Spears, Britney
ESFj - Hilton, Paris
INTj - Marx, Karl

ESTp - Sinatra, Frank
INFp - Timberlake, Justin
ENFj - Aguilera, Christina
ISTj - Clinton, Hillary

ESFp - West, Kanye
INTp - Hendrix, Jimi
ENTj - Diesel, Vin
ISFj - Obama, Barack

ENFp - Disney, Walt
ISTp - Letterman, David
ESTj - Bush, George W.
INFj - Woods, Tiger

they should be typings that have less than a 10% arguability factor. . also Karl Marx? really? that's popular culture to you?

These are fine examples with no arguablity factor to people who understand Socionics, because they're obvious examples that should lead someone to grasp each type well, which is why I said if you don't agree then there's no reason to tell me. However it might be useful to provide more main examples for each type to make a good comparison. Karl Marx is perhaps the most famous INTj there is, or at least one of them, but if you have a better idea than Marx for the INTj representative then speak it.

[Creepy-bg]

These are fine examples with no arguablity factor to people who understand Socionics because they're obvious examples that should lead someone to grasp each type well, which is why I said if you don't agree then there's no reason to tell me. Karl Marx is perhaps the most famous INTj there is, or at least one of them, though as I said, if you still agree but have a better idea, then speak it.

they should be typings that everybody (or as close as we can get) agrees with, not typings with "no arguablity factor to people who understand socionics" (aka people who agree with my favorite interpretation of socionics).

also, fyi, most people only know who Marx is (if that, most people only know him as "that communist guy" or something along those lines).

these type representatives should be people who are readily known to the great uneducated masses who spend their lives absorbing popular media instead of reading old books written 10000 years ago.

[1981slater]

Here are my nominations.

ILE: Doc Brown (Back to the Future)
LII: Spock (Star Trek)
ESE: Bill Cosby
SEI: "The Dude" (The Big Lebowski)

EIE: Martin Luther King Jr.

ESI: Martha Stewart

SLI: Chuck Norris or Red Green (do people know who Red Green is outside of Canada?)

I'll add a few

ILE Dr House, Morpheus (Matrix), Feynman, Groucho, Finch (Just shoot me), Chandler/Ross (Friends), Dr Malcolm (Jurassic Park)
ESE Goku (Dragon Ball)
LII John Kramer (Saw), Grissom (CSI), Michael Scofield, Dr Grant (Jurassic Park)
SEI Barney Gamble

SLE Tyler Durden, Bart Simpson, Mickey (Natural Born killers), Vegeta (Dragon Ball), Clarence (Robocop), Dr Cox (Scrubs)
LSI Smith (Matrix), Taylor (CSI), Moe Scyslak, Piccolo (Dragon Ball)
IEI
EIE Ronald Reagan, Cristiano Ronaldo


LIE Bill Gates, Mr Burns, The Old man/Morton/Jones (Robocop)
ESI Smithers, Ripley (Alien)
SEE Joey (Friends), Al Capone, Berlusconi, Maradona
ILI The Lawyer (Scrubs), Neo (Matrix)


EII Horatio (CSI)
LSE William Wallace
SLI
IEE Johnny Utah, Prince of Bel Air

[Marie84]

I agree with your (Krig) typings except for Big Lebowski since I've never seen it and so have no opinion on it

SLE- Winston Churchill, Madonna
IEI- Gandhi
SLI- Steve McQueen
IEE- Micheal J. Fox, Ferris Bueller
EII- Prince Myshkin (Dostoevsky's "The Idiot")
ILI- Stanley Kubrick
SEE- Elvis Presley
ESI- Shosanna Dreyfus ("Inglourious Basterds")
LIE- Bill Gates
ILE- Albert Einstein
ESE- Robin Williams

Mr Burns

lol yes, that's a good example of LIE stereotype fo sure

[Creepy-bg]

****** for EIE!

[Creepy-male]

****** for EIE!

+1

[Marie84]

****** for EIE!

[Creepy-male]

For the Aussies: Kevin Rudd is a good EIE. SLI subtype.

Every Australian politician is SLI subtype

[Jarno]

****** for EIE!

EIE: Oprah Winfrey and Gordon Ramsey

[Saoshyant]

This seems like it will be a popular thread. Maybe have a poll in each individual quadra forums for each type with like 10 or so names to see is the clear cut choice for that type?

My suggestion that best describes ILI: Demetri Martin

[ashlesha]

SLI: Chuck Norris or Red Green (do people know who Red Green is outside of Canada?)

yes, i love red green for SLI

[Saoshyant]

Red Green (do people know who Red Green is outside of Canada?)

No clue

[tereg]

SLI: Chuck Norris or Red Green (do people know who Red Green is outside of Canada?)

Yes I do!

[Words]

Bill Nye the science guy - ILE

[Wynch]

Bill Nye the science guy - ILE

YouTube - Bill Nye Theme

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