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    It's a friend of mine from a political forum I frequent.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    What is this politics ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    What is this politics ?
    Why do you always leave a space before a question mark ?
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    My apologies. In the past the search function used to show every post by a member to non logged-in people so long as you linked directly to it; except for forums not viewable to non-members. Apparently it doesn't do that anymore. I'll just quote his last 20 or so posts here.

    I couldn't be arsed to actually read this thread, but I can guess what people answered (as they answered in the last ten thousand threads on the subject), so I don't think I need to.

    To the rightards here (OP included):

    Higher education being subsidized by private loans depends on the credit of the borrower, so if you can't find somebody in your family with good credit willing to put it on the line for your education (as is somewhat frequently the case of poor families), you're fucked. I actually have one of those loans to my name -- I'm guessing you don't.

    To the leftards here (post right under the OP included):

    Higher education is, as presently constituted, really an awfully fucking large drain on the economy and society at large. This is an institution teaching useless skills to people not smart enough to grasp them (the median IQ of college students has dropped from 120 to 108 in the last 30 years), removing them from the workplace for their most productive years, and charging them six-figure bills for it -- and you can't get a half-decent job anymore without going through it (believe me, I've tried). It desperately needs reform.
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    quote:
    Evidence? Also, is this just within the college bound population, or does it extend to the general country?
    No source off-hand (it's from Charles Murray though -- I'll see if I can look it up for you). And no, the general population is much dumber than that.
    OP: Brilliant.

    Half the posts following: WAAAAAAH RACISM

    Grow up guys.
    GandalfTheGrey wrote:
    but at least we have a great contribution from you house

    In any case, cheescake and others have been far too patient trying to be reasonable against this ignorant rubbish. Then Kman comes right out with a blatantly racist comment that if reported will definitely get deleted and the poster warned. But he's actually only articulating more openly what eugenecop had been subtly hinting at.

    So who should "Grow up" again?
    In order: 1) I largely have no interest in participating in the discussion -- hence why I didn't post anything of substance. 2) I actually amended to "half" from "all" the posters in this thread, because I do agree Cheesecake made some posts of great substance (as opposed to Mr. Bill, who was as usual posting rubbish leftarded sloganeering and calling the OP bullshit with no real backing). And 3) Pretty much everyone, including yourself, seems content to call anything race-related that isn't tabula rasa crap "morally reprehensible" and save yourself the trouble of handling those pesky "facts." Kman's no better, but that doesn't excuse anyone else here.
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    HARD


    ..

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    Fixed it for ya.
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    I'd tap that.
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    Arie wrote:
    So? How does that prevent us from looking at a manufactured good as a service provided by the manufacturer, the service of manufacturing and providing the good?
    Technically the manufacturer is providing a service, but the good itself isn't a service... It is a good, which is a rather relevant fact as, well... the economy needs goods to function.


    Arie wrote:
    Also, how does that make a service based economy less sustainable than a manufacturing based one? (that's the OP question), if that's what you're implying.
    1) Because manufactured goods are, on average, one hundred times more capital intensive than services, and capital intensity is the core driver of living standards. The more is produced per head, the more every person involved in the production process gets remunerated, and the more people make on average.
    2) Because nearly all services are meant as support for the supply chain of goods, and those that aren't use goods in their execution. Try cutting hair without scissors.
    3) Because a properly functioning economy uses the whole range of goods and services available worldwide, which must be either produced or imported. In order to import goods, something must be exported to balance it out, and there are very, very few services that produce enough export receipts to make the imbalance whole.
    4) While this doesn't speak much to the sustainability of it, a service-based economy breeds inequality, because payscales are much steeper in white-collar industries as opposed to blue-collar ones.

    EDIT- this is my answer to the OP, as well.
    [on a thread about Turkey, the country]

    QatzelOk wrote:
    Let's talk Turkey



    Delicious. :drool:
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    Other: He was no communist. He was, however, the most successful fascist leader in history.


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    Trotsky = Stalin; Stalin's program heavily borrowed from Trotsky's ideas. If Trotsky had gained power instead, the only discernible difference would have been a more hawkish and more potentially destabilizing foreign policy.
    Last edited by Aleksei; 10-30-2010 at 04:28 AM.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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