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    "The only known novel where all 16 types are represented is Tolstoy's War and Peace, although not all of the types are equally portrayed in detail. "
    Grigory Reinin

    Anyone care to elaborate?

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    well it is a bloody long novel...threads

    I've never got into it myself, but there was an article on socionics.org that had typings of literary characters which I adapted into the Fictional Alpha\Beta\Gamma\Delta Characters In Literature threads.

    They had these typings:

    Captain Tushin - ILE
    Count Rostov - SEI
    Sonya Rostov - ESI
    Natasha Rostova - SEE
    Pierre Bezukhov - ILI
    Maria Bolkonskaya - EII
    Nikolai Rostov - LSE

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    Default War & Peace Characters and Tolstoy

    Because it's my favorite book I wonder how you type the characters in the book and Tolstoi himself.

    Pierre Besuchov SLI or ILI
    Andrei Bolkonski LIE
    Marja Bolkonskaja EII
    Ilja Rostov ESE
    Nikolai Rostov LSE
    Natalia Rostova IEE
    Anatol Kuragin EIE?
    Helen Kuragina SEE?
    Sonja(Sofia) Alexandrovna SEI
    Boris Drubezkoi LSI
    Adolf Berg LSE
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    no one

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    I do not think many people read that book these days.
     
    God is most glorified when we are most satisfied in Him.
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    Socionics -
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    I've never read War and Piece.
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    Piece characters would be like bit actors, right?
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    Stop being a bully.
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    I would comment, but I haven't read War and Peace since I was 13 and I hated it. I'm a Dostoyevsky girl.
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    ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    This thread would probably draw more constructive attention if the title were spelled correctly.


    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    I would comment, but I haven't read War and Peace since I was 13 and I hated it. I'm a Dostoyevsky girl.
    I am a Tolstoi-boy. I am going to read Dostojevski in the summer. How do you type the brothers Karamasov?

    Edit: did you read it further than page 200?

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    Chekhov....

    And you don't have to claw your eyes out of boredom as his stories are much shorter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Chekhov....

    And you don't have to claw your eyes out of boredom as his stories are much shorter...
    Only read pique dame I liked it but I love the deep long stories of Tolstoi (but he wrote also lots of shortstories)

    Edit: Thanks for correcting the title

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    I think Tolstoy himself is an IEE. On some other forums (when I did a google search), some other people thought the same thing. I discovered him the other day because Anna Karenina was on HBO, and I happened to be watching TV that day because I was at a hotel. I never knew anything about Tolstoy and haven't read any of his books, so Anna Karenina was the first work of his that I ever saw, unless maybe I read something of his in literature class long ago.

    The AK movie was full of -Fe and +Fi. I'm using something which I think is Model B by Bukalov, if I understand correctly - that's the one with the plus and minus signs which I had been looking for a long time ago. -Fe shows a lot of negative emotions. This doesn't do the movie justice, and I wasn't fully paying attention to it at the time, but my impression of it was a whole lot of different characters whose names and significance I could not remember, who were always fighting with each other and crying about things, or scowling their social disapproval at each other. -Fe is also aware of gossip and other people's feelings about someone.

    On Wikipedia (or somewhere online? I forget) they said that Tolstoy had a 'godlike perspective,' showing the whole world that his characters all lived in, and all their points of view, and the reasons why they were doing what they were doing. So War and Peace is set at a particular moment in history when big things were going on (I haven't read it, but the Project Gutenberg HTML version of it is open in my other browser right now, and I have skimmed through it a bit). That seems like -Ne. The historical context is part of the whole plot and affects everything that everyone is doing and how they see things.

    I think I first heard about War and Peace on some cartoon when I was a kid, but I can't remember which cartoon - it was something like the coyote and roadrunner cartoons, or something. Anytime somebody was going to be doing something that was going to take an extremely long time, they would pull out 'War and Peace' to signify this. It was also used to signify that somebody was intelligent or intellectual.

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