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    Default Inclination for optimism or pessimism is genetic apparently

    Looking on the bright side of life is in the genes, claim scientists - Telegraph

    Dunno, just thought this was kinda interesting. It seems that our outlook on life is affected by genetics.

    OK, I don't know much about reinin dichotomies, but taking the description from here, Positivist and negativist - Wikisocion

    Positivists
    More inclined to optimize already functional systems of things and processes.
    "This glass is half-full", "We have already collected $438,000 for that project"
    Usually more complimenting than reprimanding.
    Socially and intellectually more trusting.
    Explains what things are (irrationals) or should be (rationals).

    Negativists
    More inclined to solve problems in systems of things and processes.
    "This glass is half-empty", "We need $62,000 for that project"
    Usually more reprimanding than complimenting.
    Socially and intellectually more mistrusting.

    Explains what things are not (irrationals) or should not be (rationals).
    Would imply that a positive outlook on life is type related, ie glass half full half empty, socially trusting of people vs mistrusting of others, so it's sort of related to being optimistic about things or not.

    In my opinion, people can be of the same type and be optimistic or not.

    So, could be that the reinin dichotomy isn't explained properly, or are types just naturally optimistic or not?

    Either way, type or otherwise, I think it's interesting if there are any pessimists out there...apparently an optimistic people have better mental health!

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    Positivist/Negativist is different than Optimist/Pessimist.

    I think I'm sort of optimistic fatalistic negativist.
    "We need $62,000 more for this project, and we won't get it, but I don't mind."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Positivist/Negativist is different than Optimist/Pessimist.

    I think I'm sort of optimistic fatalistic negativist.
    "We need $62,000 more for this project, and we won't get it, but I don't mind."
    lol what's optimistic about that?
    Sounds more like an indifferent pessimist.

    I've never really considered positivist/negativist as the same as optimistic/pessimistic, but how exactly are they different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azeroffs View Post
    lol what's optimistic about that?
    Sounds more like an indifferent pessimist.
    The world is going to end, and that's a good thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azeroffs View Post
    I've never really considered positivist/negativist as the same as optimistic/pessimistic, but how exactly are they different?
    Negativists see what should be taken away to improve something.
    Positivists see what should be added to improve something.
    Optimists see the good.
    Pessimists see the bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    The world is going to end, and that's a good thing.
    lol

    Negativists see what should be taken away to improve something.
    Positivists see what should be added to improve something.
    Optimists see the good.
    Pessimists see the bad.
    makes sense
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    I think that in order to use Positivist/Negativist properly, you have to use it in conjunction with Process/Result.

    Process/Result is a trait with a stronger effect on the composition of the model A than Positivist/Negativist. It determines how Positivist and Negativist function blocks are distributed across Static and Dynamic in the model A. It is a less superficial dichotomy than Positivist/Negativist for this reason. It has been my experience that is also has a stronger effect on what a person feels positive and respectively negative towards than Positivism/Negativism.

    In other words, if you're looking for some holy grail with regard to explaining optimism/pessimism between types, Process/Result is a better bet than Positivism/Negativism.

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