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    Hello, I'm new here and wonder If you can type me. I'm 18, going to school, work as a cook, and have my eye on a girl, but am just not ready to ask her out.

    I am a good at sports, work hard, and do well enough in school.

    Socially, I'm a no nonsense guy, but do like to join in the fun. I have a few close friends, but not much for parties.

    At work, I'm very fast and on top of the job. I tend to run over slower co-workers in this fast-paced job. I don't fault others for their slower pace, just want to do what needs done.

    I don't seek power or fame, just like to be useful, and in the end, get the girl.

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    Welcome

    First instinct from the post is SLI: Sensory-Logical Intratim - ISTp (The Artisan)

    If that doesn't seem to fit read some of the other profiles to see which matches you best. It's safe to ignore some of the "physical" aspects of these descriptions.
    ILI (FINAL ANSWER)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrstian View Post
    Hello, I'm new here and wonder If you can type me. I'm 18, going to school, work as a cook, and have my eye on a girl, but am just not ready to ask her out.

    I am a good at sports, work hard, and do well enough in school.

    Socially, I'm a no nonsense guy, but do like to join in the fun. I have a few close friends, but not much for parties.

    At work, I'm very fast and on top of the job. I tend to run over slower co-workers in this fast-paced job. I don't fault others for their slower pace, just want to do what needs done.

    I don't seek power or fame, just like to be useful, and in the end, get the girl.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    First instinct from the post is SLI:
    From the bold I'd say definitively not SLI.

    LSE was my first impression from the post alone. If not, probably LIE.



    Definitely need more for an accurate typing tho. Try telling us more about yourself.

    What made you want to be a cook?
    What do you plan on doing after school?
    What is it abut the girl that you like?
    How long have you been into socionics and what made you get into it?
    Anything else?



    and welcome btw!
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    Good questions.

    What made you want to be a cook?
    They hired me. I started at 16 as a dishwasher. I really didn't care what the job was as long as I could do it.

    What do you plan on doing after school?
    I started in Pre-Med, but Chemistry is killing me. I'm not sure where I will wind up.

    What is it abut the girl that you like?
    She's hot, and she laughs at my jokes, and she's very smart. We have two classes together and I went to class early yesterday to see where she would sit. She sat next to me. Good sign.

    Anything else?
    Nah, What can I say. I'm think I'm pretty good at most everything. I try to treat people right. I'm not much for politcs or religion, I think both take advantage of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azeroffs View Post
    From the bold I'd say definitively not SLI.

    LSE was my first impression from the post alone. If not, probably LIE.

    and welcome btw!
    What is SLI, LSE, and LIE? I thought the types were four letters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    Welcome

    First instinct from the post is SLI: Sensory-Logical Intratim - ISTp (The Artisan)

    If that doesn't seem to fit read some of the other profiles to see which matches you best. It's safe to ignore some of the "physical" aspects of these descriptions.
    Interestingly, that was also my first instinct, although I agree with Azeroffs that the "I tend to run over slower co-workers in this fast-paced job" thing isn't a stereotypically SLI behaviour.

    Some more questions for Christian: What is your social behaviour like? Are you fairly open and outgoing in groups of people, or do you tend to be more reserved and laid-back? Do you find yourself frequently active and pursuing goals, or do you tend to be more relaxed and go-with-the-flow?

    Also, to pull a Maritsa: Please describe your favourite ice cream and why you like it.
    Quaero Veritas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrstian View Post
    What is SLI, LSE, and LIE? I thought the types were four letters?
    Due to some confusion between the English-speaking and Russian-speaking segments of the socionics community, mostly regarding the similar-but-not-quite-the-same MBTI system, there are both three-letter and four-letter designations for the socionics types. Around here, we tend to use them interchangeably -- to be honest, I don't even notice anymore which form someone is using. Here's a list:

    ENTp = ILE (Intuitive Logical Extravert)
    ISFp = SEI (Sensory Ethical Introvert)
    INTj = LII (Logical Intuitive Introvert)
    ESFj = ESE (Ethical Sensory Extravert)

    ESTp = SLE (Sensory Logical Extravert)
    INFp = IEI (Intuitive Ethical Introvert)
    ISTj = LSI (Logical Sensory Introvert)
    ENFj = EIE (Ethical Intuitive Extravert)

    ESFp = SEE (Sensory Ethical Extravert)
    INTp = ILI (Intuitive Logical Introvert)
    ISFj = ESI (Ethical Sensory Introvert)
    ENTj = LIE (Logical Intuitive Extravert)

    ENFp = IEE (Intuitive Ethical Extravert)
    ISTp = SLI (Sensory Logical Introvert)
    INFj = EII (Ethical Intuitive Introvert)
    ESTj = LSE (Logical Sensory Extravert)
    Quaero Veritas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrstian View Post
    What is it abut the girl that you like?
    She's hot, and she laughs at my jokes, and she's very smart. We have two classes together and I went to class early yesterday to see where she would sit. She sat next to me. Good sign.
    Yeah, people usually sit next to their friends.

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    Yeah, ISTp would be my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrstian View Post
    What is SLI, LSE, and LIE? I thought the types were four letters?
    They were. Someone decided it would be more efficient to make every type one character shorter. We're still not efficient enough here to communicate using the two-letter codes.

    LSE makes sense to me. Have you been to wikisocion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    Some more questions for Christian: What is your social behaviour like? Are you fairly open and outgoing in groups of people, or do you tend to be more reserved and laid-back? Do you find yourself frequently active and pursuing goals, or do you tend to be more relaxed and go-with-the-flow?

    Also, to pull a Maritsa: Please describe your favourite ice cream and why you like it.


    What is your social behaviour like? Are you fairly open and outgoing in groups of people, or do you tend to be more reserved and laid-back?

    Reserved, but can take center stage if cornered.


    Do you find yourself frequently active and pursuing goals, or do you tend to be more relaxed and go-with-the-flow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    They were. Someone decided it would be more efficient to make every type one character shorter. We're still not efficient enough here to communicate using the two-letter codes.

    LSE makes sense to me. Have you been to wikisocion?
    Maybe pictures would work.

    I'll google wikisocion.

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    LSE
    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
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    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    Yeah, ISTp would be my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post
    Handsome fellow. Couldn't be ISTp.
    How is this type related? Or were you just being sarcastic lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    How is this type related? Or were you just being sarcastic lol?
    Of course, except in Pakster's case.
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    [QUOTE=Chrstian;700246] and have my eye on a girl, but am just not ready to ask her out.

    QUOTE]

    Girl troubles. Tell me about it. If you need some words, just let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrstian View Post
    and have my eye on a girl, but am just not ready to ask her out.
    Girl troubles. Tell me about it. If you need some words, just let me know.
    How is starting to be interested in a girl trouble?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    [quote=Cyrano;700308]
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrstian View Post
    and have my eye on a girl, but am just not ready to ask her out.

    QUOTE]

    Girl troubles. Tell me about it. If you need some words, just let me know.
    I'm not pitiful. I just need an introduction. I'm sure I could find the words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrstian View Post
    Hello, I'm new here and wonder If you can type me. I'm 18, going to school, work as a cook, and have my eye on a girl, but am just not ready to ask her out.

    I am a good at sports, work hard, and do well enough in school.

    Socially, I'm a no nonsense guy, but do like to join in the fun. I have a few close friends, but not much for parties.

    At work, I'm very fast and on top of the job. I tend to run over slower co-workers in this fast-paced job. I don't fault others for their slower pace, just want to do what needs done.

    I don't seek power or fame, just like to be useful, and in the end, get the girl.
    Delta ST. Either LSE or SLI. I get the impression you're more introverted (waiting to ask the girl out, few close friends, not much for parties) On the other hand I agree with those who said that running over slower coworkers is not very SLI like. So LSE is possible, I don't get a strong introverted impression, just leaning slightly that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    Delta ST. Either LSE or SLI. I get the impression you're more introverted (waiting to ask the girl out, few close friends, not much for parties) On the other hand I agree with those who said that running over slower coworkers is not very SLI like. So LSE is possible, I don't get a strong introverted impression, just leaning slightly that way.
    Exactly my own train of thought.
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    Ok. Time for me to fess up. I was just testing you guys. I am Cyrano de SLI. Chrstian is really me, from when I was about 18.

    Kudos to Crispy for guessing my type right out of the gate. I notice that a number of SLIs joined the conversation too. Thanks brothers Parkster and Krig.

    Overall great typing from all, it was quickly narrowed down to just two types. And all were interested in helping the new kid get a good start.

    Thanks,

    Cyrano

    PS SLIs are efficient so don't be surprised if we amaze you with our productivity. We just need to be engaged.

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    ^ Very good to hear.

    Thought I was hallucinating when "Cyrano" magically posted as OP a couple times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrstian View Post
    What is SLI, LSE, and LIE? I thought the types were four letters?
    Hi Christian...

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    haha.

    my first and most salient impression was LSE. but fwiw, my SLI boyfriend describes himself the exact same way when he talks about what he is like at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrstian View Post
    Ok. Time for me to fess up. I was just testing you guys. I am Cyrano de SLI. Chrstian is really me, from when I was about 18.

    Kudos to Crispy for guessing my type right out of the gate. I notice that a number of SLIs joined the conversation too. Thanks brothers Parkster and Krig.

    Overall great typing from all, it was quickly narrowed down to just two types. And all were interested in helping the new kid get a good start.

    Thanks,

    Cyrano

    PS SLIs are efficient so don't be surprised if we amaze you with our productivity. We just need to be engaged.
    Aw. That's cool. I also got a lot of help right away when I ventured into the forum and asked for help with my type. So belated thanks to everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post
    ^ Very good to hear.

    Thought I was hallucinating when "Cyrano" magically posted as OP a couple times.
    Ha! I did accidently post as Cyrano, using Chrstian's words. I had to delete that ASAP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Hi Christian...
    Hey Maritsa. I was expecting you to type my alter-ego as SLI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    It's safe to ignore some of the "physical" aspects of these descriptions.
    Crispy, although I agree with this because it accords with my experience so far of the descriptions, would you please elucidate why the physical parts of the descriptions don't always hold up so well?

    And what are some physical aspects of type that might be more true and identifiable, in your view? (If any.)

    Anyone else, too--please comment.

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    It's mostly because the physical descriptions are the easiest to latch on to as proof when it's really the behavior descriptions that should be focused on. The best example is the ISTj profile where it says: "If an LSI male does not have a moustache, there is a logical reason for it, because they usually decide it is a good idea." Even if 70% of LSI males have moustaches, there's 30% of them questioning their type because of that one physical description. The physical descriptions are probably true in more cases than not, but it's safer for the minority if they are ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrstian View Post
    Ok. Time for me to fess up. I was just testing you guys. I am Cyrano de SLI. Chrstian is really me, from when I was about 18.

    Kudos to Crispy for guessing my type right out of the gate. I notice that a number of SLIs joined the conversation too. Thanks brothers Parkster and Krig.

    Overall great typing from all, it was quickly narrowed down to just two types. And all were interested in helping the new kid get a good start.

    Thanks,

    Cyrano

    PS SLIs are efficient so don't be surprised if we amaze you with our productivity. We just need to be engaged.
    Haha, nice, well played.
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    Cyrano, you trick full of bags!

    And for those of you who whined about how being fast in getting things done (aka running over slow coworkers) not being an ISTp trait, you should learn better.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrstian View Post
    PS SLIs are efficient so don't be surprised if we amaze you with our productivity. We just need to be engaged.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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