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[Jenna]

new here but I don't exactly consider myself new to socionics, i've read quite a bit on both rick's site and on SG's site, but sometimes he doesn't update the Q&A, and often the forums on that site are .."dull" i guess. i came here and i've been looking around at the forums for the past 3 days, i think you all are very entertaining

[Beautiful sky]

Well, we are very entertaining. We don't have any shortage of drama and

welcome.

[golden]

Welcome, Jenna.

[Jenna]

exactly, entertaining! haha and thanks!

[Airman]

plenty of drama here.

do you know your type?

[Jenna]

almost always test as IEI/INFp and enneagram type 4, can't recall ever testing something else..

[Airman]

almost always test as IEI/INFp and enneagram type 4, can't recall ever testing something else..

internet tests = FAIL , but if you´re E4 IRL, then INFP is a good bet.

[Jenna]

i agree they are, the past year or so i've hardly tested because they're too predictable. besides that i don't always agree when the descriptions say i'm creative, i feel like they're overestimating me >.>

[Airman]

i agree they are, the past year or so i've hardly tested because they're too predictable. besides that i don't always agree when the descriptions say i'm creative, i feel like they're overestimating me >.>

it´s not that E4s are creative but they have this quality of genuinity to them, uniqueness, so they can create unique and genuine things... but it´s sort of hidden. your low self-opinion on that confirms that you´re probably E4.

[Jenna]

yeah, i see what you mean. i just feel like the world is full of so many strange things that i'd assume everything has been done before so maybe there isn't much room for creativity. like people say lady gaga is creative, but then others say she is a recycled version of madonna.

[1981slater]

Wow, are you Jenna Jameson?

[WVBRY]

Well, we are very entertaining. We don't have any shortage of drama and

welcome.

Welcome! and not to mention !

[golden]

yeah, i see what you mean. i just feel like the world is full of so many strange things that i'd assume everything has been done before so maybe there isn't much room for creativity. like people say lady gaga is creative, but then others say she is a recycled version of madonna.

This may not be true for you, Jenna, so take it for what it's worth. But I've found that in expressing my creativity, because of lack of self-confidence, I totally have to have structure and outside support.

(I'm IEI/INFp and indisputably E4.)

My advice is that if you discover a medium through which you want to express your creativity, consider pursuing it in a structured way, such as an academic program or a very good (ideally, with an expert in charge) peer group. I made little progress in my creative pursuits until I did that. It helps to have (a) outside goals being set for me, such as having to complete a project by X date, and (b) having other people give feedback that helps me better understand what is and isn't valuable in my own creative output.

With encouragement to pursue my own inner world and express it, I did discover how to realize my creative potential more and more. For me, it's been a matter of seeing that the inner world I dwell in can be expressed safely and that it's even warmly received by other people.

[crazedrat]

I think you just underestimate how non-creative most people are.

[DirectorAbbie]

Well, we are very entertaining. We don't have any shortage of drama and

welcome.

We have a shortage of ESEs. Most of the here is Beta.

I have a cousin named Jenna. You look similar to her.

[golden]

I think you just underestimate how non-creative most people are.

Eh, I deal with creative types every single day.

A bit in the vein of what Maritsa was saying to mercutio in another thread: I'm getting weary of you responding to my every post. Why don't you find someone else to focus on for a while?

[crazedrat]

Eh, I deal with creative types every single day.

A bit in the vein of what Maritsa was saying to mercutio in another thread: I'm getting weary of you responding to my every post. Why don't you find someone else to focus on for a while?

I wasn't even talking to you, I was talking to the girl who said she wasn't creative. Lol. Your reaction is hilarious though

[Jenna]

Wow, are you Jenna Jameson?

no, but my dad is a big fan of porn, and i've always wondered if i was named after her xD thanks for the advice goldenwings. i guess in certain ways i am creative, i really enjoy writing calligraphy for example.

[Skeptic]

halllooooooooooo

People will have a better grasp of your type if you post enough (that is, if you're actually looking for your type, which I would assume you are). They're pretty outspoken about such things, for better or worse

[gobearcats]

You have to go through a three phase initiation or you lose your posting abilities.

[1981slater]

no, but my dad is a big fan of porn, and i've always wondered if i was named after her

I bet you are, Jenna

[Beautiful sky]

Jenna is ISFp per VI Slater

You two......

(duality...ummm always looks and feels dreamy)

[golden]

Jenna is ISFp per VI Slater

That interests me b/c I have a close friend who's ISFP and I see some similarities ...

[crazedrat]

We need more information to determine her type.

[golden]

I hope you'll give us more information, Jenna. If you're open to the possibility that you're not IEI, it'd be cool to see what you (and other forum members) might come up with.

[sarinana]

I think you just underestimate how non-creative most people are.

[Jenna]

i am open to the possibility



but i think my room suggests non-Si dominant.. unless it is "p"-ness

[1981slater]

i am open to the possibility



but i think my room suggests non-Si dominant.. unless it is "p"-ness

Your room suggests nuclear-strike dominant

[golden]

Wow! Your room ... how cute and awful. It looks like my car at the moment.

[Satan]

those walls are an ugly colour, your tv is old. are you a student?

[Crispy]

I'm a J type with a room twice as messy as yours.

[Creepy-bg]

but i think my room suggests non-Si dominant.. unless it is "p"-ness

you have a penis? lol

ISFp's can be messy people. if i had decent lighting I'd take pic of my room... let's just say that within arms reach of me there are at least 20 empty soda cans on the computer desk, dresser, and floor. lol

clothes all over the floor. check

bed has 8 pillows, three sheets, a comforter, and two blankets... but hasn't been made in over a year lol (yes I do wash them , but what's the point of making a bed? i just throw everything in that general direction after it's washed since it's just going to get used and messy again anyways.)

[crazedrat]

Fe types I know have always been messy.. except my ESFj mom. Starting to wonder if she's ESTj though. I think Fe just thinks "it's fine.. it's no impending problem"

[Beautiful sky]

those walls are an ugly colour, your tv is old. are you a student?

How do you infer that she's a student with that info?

[Satan]

How do you infer that she's a student with that info?

it's one of those temporary things...

[Beautiful sky]

it's one of those temporary things...

really?...I asked and Se block friend what he thought and he said, "well, at least she does her laundry"

[Creepy-bg]

"it's fine.. it's no impending problem"

pretty much. it used to drive my estj dad up the fucking wall. he'd practically gag when he'd see the state of order that i keep my room in. (not from actual physical grossness such a rotting food etc... which i care enough about to clean out to avoid, but just from the chaos of it all.) Opening the door to my room or glancing into it was one of the sure fire ways to get that vein in his forehead to start pulsing.

[Beautiful sky]

Seriously, no one can type you based on the condition of your room

[Jenna]

those walls are an ugly colour, your tv is old. are you a student?

i know they are haha, and yeah i am.. the tv doesnt bother me that much though, i never watch it, i mostly just have the entertainment center as a place to put more of my stuff and it would look strange without a tv. *shrugs* i always thought IEI's were supposed to be messy people, thats why i showed the condition of my room xD

any questions i could answer that could help the SEI/IEI problem?

[Beautiful sky]

Jenna, Si is your personal internal sensations derived from whatever pleases your own personal senses. It could please you to have your room in turmoil, but you still be able to derive pleasant sensation for "just the way it looks" or whatever about it. So Si and Se is not about messy rooms. It's about sensations. My Si friend had the messiest room ever, but when she held onto her warm and fuzzy doll, she felt pleasant in that mess.

Another example is another friend back in Junior High, who had the messiest room ever but when she stepped out of that room, she looked like a million bucks, made out nice and pretty...somehow that messy room did not bother her feelings of pleasant sensations; maybe she got used to it or because it was her comfort zone.

Si tries to establish stability internally not to pursue making their surroundings pleasant although to sometimes, you'll have Si types raised by people who are particularly stictly clean freaks and so they feel the constant need of someone watching over them, making them feel shame for not having cleaned and tidied...that's an example with another friend.

I guess a good way to determine if you're Fi is to understand from what you derive pleasant sensations from and what those feelings produce inside of you and can you get the same sensation when you think about them without experiencing them again?

I would also consider looking at Se too.