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    50 Mind Blowing Facts About America That Our Founding Fathers Never Would Have Believed

    If our Founding Fathers were alive today, what would they think of America? Surely they would be very proud that the United States stretches from the Atlantic to the Pacific and has built some of the most amazing cities that the world has ever seen. They would probably be surprised that the country they founded went on to become the greatest economic machine in the history of the world, and they would be absolutely astounded by things like our interstate highway system and the Internet. However, there are quite a number of things that they would be horrified about as well. The fact that over 40 million Americans are dependent on the federal government for their daily food would be deeply disturbing to our founders. Also, the fact that the U.S. government has accumulated the greatest mountain of debt in human history would be incredibly distressing to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and the rest of the founders. But perhaps most of all, our founders would be absolutely disgusted that the land where Americans could once be free to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness has become so tightly regulated and controlled that Americans dare not even squeak without the permission of the federal government.

    Needless to say, our founders would certainly not understand many of our institutions or many of the advanced technologies that we have today. But without a doubt they would be able to grasp how far we have fallen as a nation and how far we have strayed from the fundamental principles that they enshrined in our founding documents. The United States is a much different place today than it was in 1776, and unfortunately many of the changes have been for the worse.

    The following are 50 mind blowing facts about modern America that our Founding Fathers never would have believed....

    #1 In 2010, not only does the United States have a central bank, but it also runs our economy and issues all of our currency. The Federal Reserve has devalued the U.S. dollar by over 95 percent since 1913 and it has been used to create the biggest mountain of government debt in the history of the world.

    #2 The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit has ruled that U.S. government agents can legally sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, place a secret GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of you everywhere that you go.

    #3 The 50 wealthiest members of Congress saw their collective fortunes increase by 85.1 million dollars to $1.4 billion in 2009.

    #4 The U.S. government has accumulated a national debt that is rapidly approaching the 14 trillion dollar mark.

    #5 All over the United States, asphalt roads are being ground up and are being replaced with gravel because it is cheaper to maintain. The state of South Dakota has transformed over 100 miles of asphalt road into gravel over the past year, and 38 out of the 83 counties in the state of Michigan have now turned some of their asphalt roads into gravel roads.

    #6 Americans now owe more than $849 billion on student loans, which is more than the total amount that Americans owe on their credit cards.

    #7 In 2010, Americans waste an astounding amount of food. According to a study by the California Integrated Waste Management board, 63 percent of the average supermarket's waste stream is food. When you break that down, it means that each supermarket wastes approximately 3,000 pounds of food each year.

    #8 The city of Cleveland plans to sort through curbside trash to ensure that people are actually recycling properly. If it is discovered that some citizens are not recycling they will be hit with very large fines.

    #9 Once upon a time, U.S. industry was the envy of the world. But since 1979, manufacturing employment in the United States has fallen by 40 percent.

    #10 Even though the U.S. population has exploded in size, the number of Americans with manufacturing jobs today is smaller than the number of Americans who were employed in manufacturing in 1950.

    #11 Having one out of every eight Americans enrolled in the food stamp program is now considered "the new normal" and Americans continue to drop into poverty in astounding numbers.

    #12 One out of every six Americans is now being served by at least one government anti-poverty program.

    #13 A family of four actually has difficulty surviving on an income of $50,000 a year in America in 2010.

    #14 Barack Obama is backing a proposal to create a national database that will store the DNA of all individuals who have been arrested, even if they end up not being convicted of a crime.

    #15 In 2010, it takes the average unemployed American worker over 8 months to find a job.

    #16 The U.S. government has made some parts of Arizona off limits to U.S. citizens because of the threat of violence from Mexican drug smugglers. The federal government has actually posted signs more than 100 miles north of the Mexican border warning travelers that certain areas are unsafe because of drug and alien smugglers.

    #17 One recent survey of last year's college graduates discovered that 80 percent moved right back home with their parents after graduation.

    #18 In one of the very first military commissions held under the Obama administration, a U.S. military judge ruled that confessions obtained by threatening the subject with rape are admissible in court.

    #19 The average American worker now pays literally dozens of different kinds of taxes each year.

    #20 In recent years the U.S. government has spent $2.6 million tax dollars to study the drinking habits of Chinese prostitutes and $400,000 tax dollars to pay researchers to cruise six bars in Buenos Aires, Argentina to find out why gay men engage in risky sexual behavior when drunk.

    #21 Christians are being arrested and thrown in jail in some areas of the United States for quietly passing out Christian literature on public sidewalks.

    #22 The Florida State Department of Juvenile Justice has announced that it will begin using cutting edge analysis software to predict crime by young delinquents and will place "potential offenders" in prevention and education programs.

    #23 Organic milk is now considered such a national crisis that the FDA has been conducting military style raids on Amish farmers in the state of Pennsylvania.

    #24 The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency recently announced that they are considering a crackdown on farm dust.

    #25 According to a new CDC report, nearly half of all Americans now use prescription drugs on a regular basis.

    #26 Oakland, California Police Chief Anthony Batts says that due to severe budget cuts there are a number of crimes that his department will simply not be able to respond to any longer. The crimes that the Oakland police will no longer be responding to include grand theft, burglary, car wrecks, identity theft and vandalism.

    #27 Today, Americans are losing their homes in staggering numbers. One out of every seven mortgages was delinquent or in foreclosure during the first quarter of 2010.

    #28 Many of our leading scientists are now calling themselves "transhumanists" and are openly proclaiming that a future where men have fully merged with machines is inevitable.

    #29 Americans who spend large amounts of cash are viewed as "potential criminals" by the U.S. government in 2010.

    #30 New full body security scanners going into airports all across the United States can actually see through our clothing and produce very clear and very detailed images of our exposed bodies as we walk through them.

    #31 The U.S. financial system has become a massive gambling parlor in 2010. As a result, a horrific derivatives bubble has developed that threatens to destroy our entire economy at any moment. Nobody knows exactly how big the derivatives bubble is, but low estimates place it at around 600 trillion dollars and high estimates put it at around 1.5 quadrillion dollars. Once that bubble pops there simply will not be enough money in the entire world to fix it.

    #32 The U.S. government is spending an amount of money equivalent to approximately 25.4 percent of GDP this year.

    #33 Today, 10,000 people make 30% of the total income in the United States.

    #34 A 2006 Immigration and Customs Enforcement investigation discovered that 250 employees of the Defense Department used credit cards or PayPal to purchase images of children in sexual situations. However, the investigation also found that the Pentagon investigated only a handful of those cases.

    #35 According to a recent poll of Americans between the ages of 44 and 75, 61% said that running out money was their biggest fear. The remaining 39% thought death was scarier.

    #36 Approximately 57 percent of Barack Obama's 3.8 trillion dollar budget for 2011 consists of direct payments to individual Americans or is money that is spent on their behalf.

    #37 A recent Department of Justice guide for investigators of criminal and extremist groups lists "constitutionalists" and "survivalists" alongside organizations like Al-Qaeda and the Aryan Brotherhood.

    #38 The U.S. trade deficit has exploded to nightmarish proportions over the past two decades. Every single month tens of billions more dollars goes out of the United States than comes into it. Essentially, the United States is becoming far poorer as a nation each and every month.

    #39 Factories are closing in droves across the United States because the American people would rather buy things made in China.

    #40 Millions upon millions of good paying middle class jobs are being shipped off to China and they are never coming back. Meanwhile, U.S. politicians stand by idly and do nothing.

    #41 Some analysts now believe that China could become the largest economy in the world by the year 2020.

    #42 If the U.S. government was forced to use GAAP accounting principles (like all publicly-traded corporations must), the annual U.S. government budget deficit would be somewhere in the neighborhood of four to five trillion dollars.

    #43 According to one recent survey, 28% of all U.S. households have at least one person that is currently searching for a full-time job.

    #44 The U.S. dollar continues to rapidly decline in value. An item that cost $20.00 in 1970 will cost you $112.35 today. An item that cost $20.00 in 1913 will cost you $440.33 today.

    #45 Major international organizations are actually proposing that the United States start considering the adoption of a truly global currency.

    #46 Students at a high school in Missouri have built a car that they claim can get up to 450 miles per gallon. On another note, some of the top energy experts in the world believe that thorium could solve our energy problems and supply very cheap energy for society for hundreds of thousands of years. But in today's world technologies such as these are endlessly suppressed by the rich and powerful.

    #47 One Colorado high school student is seeking an explanation from officials at his school after he was ordered by security guards to remove American flags from his truck because they might make other students at the high school "uncomfortable".

    #48 Three California high school students were recently forced to remove their American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo.

    #49 Memorial crosses erected along Utah public roads to honor fallen state troopers have been found unconstitutional by a federal appeals court and now must be removed permanently.

    #50 One group of high school students made national headlines recently when they revealed that a security guard ordered them to stop singing the national anthem during a visit to the Lincoln Memorial.
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    This morning my dad asked whether the American flag represented the government of America, the people of America, or the land of America. I said, "The idea of America."

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    Would Americans be more shocked by this? It seems to imply that the founding fathers are irrational people who are easily alarmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    This morning my dad asked whether the American flag represented the government of America, the people of America, or the land of America. I said, "The idea of America."
    Like that's like the one quote about rome... like if she didn't exist I'd dream of her, etc...

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    Another thing that would shock some of the founding fathers: Americans today can't own slaves.
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    Don't think it would be too much of a shock actually, some sure, but many of them admitted privately to the shortcomings of slavery.

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    prefacing these 50 sad, depressing facts with something about the founding fathers is kind of silly.

    Here's another one that would completely fucking blow the founding fathers away!!!!:

    The industrial revolution happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath View Post
    prefacing these 50 sad, depressing facts with something about the founding fathers is kind of silly.

    Here's another one that would completely fucking blow the founding fathers away!!!!:

    The industrial revolution happened.
    Blacks can now get money in exchange for goods or services.
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    Most of these aren't that surprising as far as these sort of practices are the norm in other places and certainly some of the founding fathers would have supported some of these measures such as.

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    #49 Memorial crosses erected along Utah public roads to honor fallen state troopers have been found unconstitutional by a federal appeals court and now must be removed permanently.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
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    To messers Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

    Gentlemen

    The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

    Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. [Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from prescribing even those occasional performances of devotion, practiced indeed by the Executive of another nation as the legal head of its church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect.] Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

    I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association assurances of my high respect & esteem.

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    This is just a Founding Father and principle writer of the Declaration of Independence.

    Quote Originally Posted by James Madison
    The experience of the United States is a happy disproof of the error so long rooted in the unenlightened minds of well-meaning Christians, as well as in the corrupt hearts of persecuting usurpers, that without a legal incorporation of religious and civil polity, neither could be supported. A mutual independence is found most friendly to practical Religion, to social harmony, and to political prosperity
    This is just a Founding Father and one of the principle writer of the constitution.

    This person seems like he listens to a lot of media and is relatively ignorant of history.

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    #41 Some analysts now believe that China could become the largest economy in the world by the year 2020.
    China was the biggest economy in the world for most of the last 2000 years. It will be very little surprise to billions of people today that they can achieve that position again.

    This Article is just full of all sort of alarmist inaccuracies and other examples of poor historical knowledge and factual information.

    Fundamentally however, it matters very little what the founders will be surprised by.

    Also, if they put some of these ideas into place in the beginning, obviously they weren't surprised what people would do.

    Like #49, they weren't surprised by this, that's why they wrote the constitution to ensure it wouldn't happen. No memorial crosses on the public highways, that's just how they intended, guess they were a lot better then this writer at the whole not being surprised thing.

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    Blah blah blah blah.

    The point is that America is increasingly becoming an ironic shit hole, and the survivors of the future (if any) will laugh at our collective short sightedness.
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    #1 America is a country of whiny bitches who spend too much time bickering over pointless things to be concerned where we're actually going in the world.

    Maybe they'd chuckle at how highly they are being thought of, and would scoff at the countries lack of adaptation and forward thinking.

    bblah blah blah

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Blah blah blah blah.

    The point is that America is increasingly becoming an ironic shit hole, and the survivors of the future (if any) will laugh at our collective short sightedness.
    oh - yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Blah blah blah blah.

    The point is that America is increasingly becoming an ironic shit hole, and the survivors of the future (if any) will laugh at our collective short sightedness.
    Take that back.




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