Gulenko's four styles of communication

[WVBRY]

Im not sure how faimilar most of you are with these. If I am being redundant, forgive me but I dont hear anyone talk about these like they do the sexual attitudes so here it goes.

Gulenko identified the four styles of communication; business-like, sincere, passionate and coldblooded.

Description

Businesslike - This is the stereotypical male style of communication. Active communication of practical actions, they communicate through the " i do something for you, you do something for me" attitude. This is sterotypical role of male who through his actions rescues or woes a female.

Types: ENTp, ESTp, ENTj, ESTj

Sincere - This is the stereotypical female style of communication. Opposite to the male style, passive expectation of action on the part of their partner. This is the sterotypical role of a female who expects to be rescues or seduced by an action seeking male.

Types: ISFp, INFp, ISFj, INFj

Passionate - Active communication of emotions, expect emotional response on the part of their partner. Will actively demonstrate feelings and emotions. This style is too active to be a stereotypcial female style, but too emotional to be a sterotypical male style also. It has been termed "warmblooded".

Types: ESFj, ENFj, ESFp, ENFp

Coldblooded - Passive expectation of feelings from their partner. Expect partner to show emotions. See communication as a tranmission of information rather than emotion or action of any sort.

Types; INTj, ISTj, INTp, ISTp




I could post links too but I cant find them right now.

So what do you think? Do you think the description fits you? Do you indentify with your style of communication?

[Krig the Viking]

Looks like it's based on the Dimensionality of the Rational functions.

4d Te = Businesslike
4d Fi = Sincere
4d Fe = Passionate
4d Ti = Coldblooded

It seems relatively accurate, though probably less so for those whose 4d Rational function is their unvalued Demonstrative function rather than their Base function.

[WVBRY]

Its based on ;
dominant or demonstarive = businesslike
dominant or demonstrative = sincere
dominant or demonstrative = passionate
dominant or demonstrative = coldblooded

[redbaron]

I think these are super accurate, ime.

[xerx]

Business logic works for me.

[Creepy-male]

Its based on ;
dominant or demonstarive = businesslike
dominant or demonstrative = sincere
dominant or demonstrative = passionate
dominant or demonstrative = coldblooded

I always thought it was based on a combination of I/E and F/T.

Spencer Stern had a nice version that illustrated this pretty well, I think. Unfortunately it is now a secret that can only be unlocked by money, so, yeah.

One thing that I will comment on is that Sincere seems a little watered down for Merry quadras, similarly for Passionate and Serious quadras.

I think in broad terms I do agree with being "logic-seeking" in communication, always asking for people's opinions and contribution to my thoughts (especially from ETs, funnily enough), but I'm obviously still a Fe ego and obviously still enjoy getting reactions out of people. That said, these descriptions made no mention of "only Passionate types can seek to get emotional involvement out of people", so it flies.

I would be curious if any of the IEEs could say they're "structure seeking" in communication.

[krieger]

Open door, meet roundhouse kick.

The description fails to recognize the fact that the Ti/Fe valuing IxTx types do communicate emotive content with their messages. This is annoying because it seems to be a characteristic going completely under the radar with no one ever noticing it despite it is so obviously there.

I always thought it was based on a combination of I/E and F/T.

There is no substance to "4D Ti" beyond singaling T and I anyway. Your version is better, though, because it is less obfuscatory.

[JohnDo]

Looks like it's based on the Dimensionality of the Rational functions.

4d Te = Businesslike
4d Fi = Sincere
4d Fe = Passionate
4d Ti = Coldblooded

To me it looks like an example of the usefulness of the yielding/obstinate dichotomy...

Yielding extraverts = Businesslike
Yielding introverts = Sincere
Obstinate extraverts = Passionate
Obstinate introverts = Coldblooded

[jughead]

"Ti/Fe valuing IxTx types do communicate emotive content with their messages. "

you mean yourself= intj and istj

Basically put these attitudes are shit. Another gulenkian shitcake

[shindaiwa21]

It seems like it has some truth to it, though I'm not sure how it really fits with the Aggressor/Victim and Infantile/Caregiver thing. I think this Gulenko set may actually be better. It explains how alphas manage to have sex instead of just doddle around each other.

[JohnDo]

I think a better way of describing communication styles would be analogous to thinking styles and romance styles:
static * intuitive = judicious ----- romance style triple
static * negativist = result ----- thinking style triple
static * democratic = asking ----- communication style triple

static*democratic*asking = Alpha-NT / Gamma-SF = to learn, get information
dynamic*democratic*declaring = Alpha-SF / Gamma-NT = to explain, share information
dynamic*aristocratic*asking = Beta-NF / Delta-ST = smalltalk
static*aristocratic*declaring = Beta-ST / Delta-NF = story-telling

[Aiss]

I could post links too but I cant find them right now.

So what do you think? Do you think the description fits you? Do you indentify with your style of communication?

Please post the links if you ever find them. I'd like to read about it in more depth. I find reductionism doesn't really work with Gulenko's articles - shortened version of thinking styles is oversimplistic (as this seems to be), but a full one gives a perspective on them.

[The Exception]

Coldblooded - Passive expectation of feelings from their partner. Expect partner to show emotions. See communication as a tranmission of information rather than emotion or action of any sort.

Types; INTj, ISTj, INTp, ISTp

I identify with this style. I don't push my partner into expressing emotions but I expect there to be some. I don't want too much expression though. That's just overwhelming. I don't like a whole lot of chit-chat. I see communication primarily as a way of exchanging the information you need.

[WVBRY]

Open door, meet roundhouse kick.

Watch it, buddy

The description fails to recognize the fact that the Ti/Fe valuing IxTx types do communicate emotive content with their messages. This is annoying because it seems to be a characteristic going completely under the radar with no one ever noticing it despite it is so obviously there.

It doesnt take into account differences in the functions, and in the individual types and quadra values obviously. Its a superficial description of different ways types have to communicate on a certain generalized level.

[redbaron]

It doesnt take into account differences in the functions, and in the individual types and quadra values obviously. Its a superficial description of different ways types have to communicate on a certain generalized level.

right, which is why it's accurate. lol

[Destroypuppy]

Gulenko Communication Styles:

Passionnate: ExFx
Active search for feelings.

Cold-Blooded: IxTx
Passive expectation of feelings.

Business: ExTx
Active anticipation of feelings.

Sincere: IxFx
Passive search for feelings.

So, thinking doesn't search for feelings, but expect or anticipate them.
What is that? Not asking for feelings, but saying things to make people feel? Like talking about something that happenned but without talking about feelings, like implicite feelings?

Or is that about passive.. And what about the search?
Can anyone see those traits in the speaches of people and help me clarify all of this?

[Radio]

this shit isn't that complicated. just think it over a bit.

[nigh]

Actually, I as well want to know about that. I get that I passively search for feelings. But how is that different from anticipation or expectation? Seems like the same things to me.

[ashlesha]

we are all searching, anticipating, expecting feelingssssss

[OldPathWhiteClouds]

Seems the difference between T & F types is whether the interlocutor is humanized or seen as merely a cog in the thinkers machinations

[yeves]

Cold-blooded female romancing card