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    Default Gulenko's four styles of communication

    Im not sure how faimilar most of you are with these. If I am being redundant, forgive me but I dont hear anyone talk about these like they do the sexual attitudes so here it goes.

    Gulenko identified the four styles of communication; business-like, sincere, passionate and coldblooded.

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    Businesslike - This is the stereotypical male style of communication. Active communication of practical actions, they communicate through the " i do something for you, you do something for me" attitude. This is sterotypical role of male who through his actions rescues or woes a female.

    Types: ENTp, ESTp, ENTj, ESTj

    Sincere - This is the stereotypical female style of communication. Opposite to the male style, passive expectation of action on the part of their partner. This is the sterotypical role of a female who expects to be rescues or seduced by an action seeking male.

    Types: ISFp, INFp, ISFj, INFj

    Passionate - Active communication of emotions, expect emotional response on the part of their partner. Will actively demonstrate feelings and emotions. This style is too active to be a stereotypcial female style, but too emotional to be a sterotypical male style also. It has been termed "warmblooded".

    Types: ESFj, ENFj, ESFp, ENFp

    Coldblooded - Passive expectation of feelings from their partner. Expect partner to show emotions. See communication as a tranmission of information rather than emotion or action of any sort.

    Types; INTj, ISTj, INTp, ISTp




    I could post links too but I cant find them right now.

    So what do you think? Do you think the description fits you? Do you indentify with your style of communication?

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    Looks like it's based on the Dimensionality of the Rational functions.

    4d Te = Businesslike
    4d Fi = Sincere
    4d Fe = Passionate
    4d Ti = Coldblooded

    It seems relatively accurate, though probably less so for those whose 4d Rational function is their unvalued Demonstrative function rather than their Base function.
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    Its based on ;
    dominant or demonstarive = businesslike
    dominant or demonstrative = sincere
    dominant or demonstrative = passionate
    dominant or demonstrative = coldblooded

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    I think these are super accurate, ime.

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    Business logic works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    Its based on ;
    dominant or demonstarive = businesslike
    dominant or demonstrative = sincere
    dominant or demonstrative = passionate
    dominant or demonstrative = coldblooded
    I always thought it was based on a combination of I/E and F/T.

    Spencer Stern had a nice version that illustrated this pretty well, I think. Unfortunately it is now a secret that can only be unlocked by money, so, yeah.

    One thing that I will comment on is that Sincere seems a little watered down for Merry quadras, similarly for Passionate and Serious quadras.

    I think in broad terms I do agree with being "logic-seeking" in communication, always asking for people's opinions and contribution to my thoughts (especially from ETs, funnily enough), but I'm obviously still a Fe ego and obviously still enjoy getting reactions out of people. That said, these descriptions made no mention of "only Passionate types can seek to get emotional involvement out of people", so it flies.

    I would be curious if any of the IEEs could say they're "structure seeking" in communication.

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    Open door, meet roundhouse kick.

    The description fails to recognize the fact that the Ti/Fe valuing IxTx types do communicate emotive content with their messages. This is annoying because it seems to be a characteristic going completely under the radar with no one ever noticing it despite it is so obviously there.

    I always thought it was based on a combination of I/E and F/T.
    There is no substance to "4D Ti" beyond singaling T and I anyway. Your version is better, though, because it is less obfuscatory.
    Last edited by krieger; 08-27-2010 at 06:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    Looks like it's based on the Dimensionality of the Rational functions.

    4d Te = Businesslike
    4d Fi = Sincere
    4d Fe = Passionate
    4d Ti = Coldblooded
    To me it looks like an example of the usefulness of the yielding/obstinate dichotomy...

    Yielding extraverts = Businesslike
    Yielding introverts = Sincere
    Obstinate extraverts = Passionate
    Obstinate introverts = Coldblooded
    Last edited by JohnDo; 08-27-2010 at 01:20 PM.

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    "Ti/Fe valuing IxTx types do communicate emotive content with their messages. "

    you mean yourself= intj and istj

    Basically put these attitudes are shit. Another gulenkian shitcake

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    It seems like it has some truth to it, though I'm not sure how it really fits with the Aggressor/Victim and Infantile/Caregiver thing. I think this Gulenko set may actually be better. It explains how alphas manage to have sex instead of just doddle around each other.

    Arctures: delta just produces boring people
    Arctures: but that's how we like it

    vero: who needs a real person
    vero: That's why I date an SLI

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    I think a better way of describing communication styles would be analogous to thinking styles and romance styles:
    static * intuitive = judicious ----- romance style triple
    static * negativist = result ----- thinking style triple
    static * democratic = asking ----- communication style triple

    static*democratic*asking = Alpha-NT / Gamma-SF = to learn, get information
    dynamic*democratic*declaring = Alpha-SF / Gamma-NT = to explain, share information
    dynamic*aristocratic*asking = Beta-NF / Delta-ST = smalltalk
    static*aristocratic*declaring = Beta-ST / Delta-NF = story-telling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    I could post links too but I cant find them right now.

    So what do you think? Do you think the description fits you? Do you indentify with your style of communication?
    Please post the links if you ever find them. I'd like to read about it in more depth. I find reductionism doesn't really work with Gulenko's articles - shortened version of thinking styles is oversimplistic (as this seems to be), but a full one gives a perspective on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post

    Coldblooded - Passive expectation of feelings from their partner. Expect partner to show emotions. See communication as a tranmission of information rather than emotion or action of any sort.

    Types; INTj, ISTj, INTp, ISTp

    I identify with this style. I don't push my partner into expressing emotions but I expect there to be some. I don't want too much expression though. That's just overwhelming. I don't like a whole lot of chit-chat. I see communication primarily as a way of exchanging the information you need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    Open door, meet roundhouse kick.
    Watch it, buddy

    The description fails to recognize the fact that the Ti/Fe valuing IxTx types do communicate emotive content with their messages. This is annoying because it seems to be a characteristic going completely under the radar with no one ever noticing it despite it is so obviously there.
    It doesnt take into account differences in the functions, and in the individual types and quadra values obviously. Its a superficial description of different ways types have to communicate on a certain generalized level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    It doesnt take into account differences in the functions, and in the individual types and quadra values obviously. Its a superficial description of different ways types have to communicate on a certain generalized level.
    right, which is why it's accurate. lol

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    Default clarification on communication styles.

    Gulenko Communication Styles:

    Passionnate: ExFx
    Active search for feelings.

    Cold-Blooded: IxTx
    Passive expectation of feelings.

    Business: ExTx
    Active anticipation of feelings.

    Sincere: IxFx
    Passive search for feelings.

    So, thinking doesn't search for feelings, but expect or anticipate them.
    What is that? Not asking for feelings, but saying things to make people feel? Like talking about something that happenned but without talking about feelings, like implicite feelings?

    Or is that about passive.. And what about the search?
    Can anyone see those traits in the speaches of people and help me clarify all of this?

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    this shit isn't that complicated. just think it over a bit.

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    Actually, I as well want to know about that. I get that I passively search for feelings. But how is that different from anticipation or expectation? Seems like the same things to me.

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    we are all searching, anticipating, expecting feelingssssss

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    Seems the difference between T & F types is whether the interlocutor is humanized or seen as merely a cog in the thinkers machinations

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