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    'Hitler was descended from Jews and Africans' DNA tests reveal | Mail Online

    NA tests reveal 'Hitler was descended from the Jews and Africans he hated'

    By Allan Hall
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    Revealing: The DNA tests on relatives of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler show he was probably descended from Jewish people and North Africans

    Revealing: The DNA tests on relatives of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler show he was probably descended from Jewish people and North Africans

    Adolf Hitler is likely to have been descended from both Jews and Africans, according to DNA tests.

    Samples taken from relatives of the Nazi leader show that he is biologically linked to the 'sub-human' races he sought to exterminate.

    Journalist Jean-Paul Mulders and historian Marc Vermeeren used DNA to track down 39 of the Fuhrer's relatives earlier this year.

    They included an Austrian farmer revealed only as a cousin called Norbert H.

    A Belgian news magazine has reported that samples of saliva taken from these people strongly suggest Hitler had antecedents he certainly would not have cared for.

    A chromosome called Haplopgroup E1b1b (Y-DNA) in their samples is rare in Germany and indeed Western Europe.

    'It is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, in Algeria, Libya and Tunisia as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews,' Mr Vermeeren said.

    'One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised,' adds Mr Mulders in the magazine, Knack.

    Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.

    'This is a surprising result,' said Ronny Decorte, a genetic specialist who agreed that Hitler probably did have some roots in North Africa.

    Roots: Hitler's DNA was found to contain Haplogroup E1b1b, commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco
    Hitler's DNA was found to contain Haplogroup E1b1b

    Roots: Hitler's DNA was found to contain Haplogroup E1b1b, commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco (left) - and also accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of the Y-chromosomes of Sephardic Jews (right) who hail from Morocco, Spain and Portugal)

    'It is difficult to predict, what happens with this information, both to opponents and supporters of Hitler,' he added.

    The magazine says the DNA was tested under stringent laboratory conditions to obtain the results.

    It is not the first time that historians have suggested Hitler had Jewish ancestry.

    His father, Alois, is thought to have been the illegitimate offspring of a maid called Maria Schickelgruber and a 19-year-old Jewish man called Frankenberger.

    This would have made the man who inspired the Holocaust one-quarter Jewish.
    Hidden secrets: The Waldviertel region where a Hitler's cousin, farmer Norbert H, was found

    Hidden secrets: The Waldviertel region in Austria where Hitler's cousin, farmer Norbert H, was found
    The Auschwitz-Birkenau camp where Hitler's Jewish extermination programme was carried out

    The Auschwitz-Birkenau camp in Poland where Hitler's extermination programme of the Jews was carried out
    The original DNA on the serviette in the US was from Alexander Stuart-Houston (now aged 61), a grand-nephew of Hitler

    DNA on a serviette was taken from Alexander Stuart-Houston (now aged 61), a grand-nephew of Hitler

    Reports have suggested that Hitler's nephew, Patrick, tried to blackmail his uncle over the issue of Alois Hitler's parentage. Hitler asked his lawyer, Hans Frank, to investigate the claims and he announced just before the outbreak of the Second World War that they were 'without any foundation'.

    'Hitler would not have been pleased about this,' added Mr Decorte, of the Catholic University of Leuven.

    'The affair is fascinating if one compares it with the conception of the world of the Nazis, in which race and blood was central.

    'Hitler's concern over his descent was not unjustified. He was apparently not "pure" or "Ayran".'

    DNA was also taken from American Alexander Stuart-Houston, 61, a grand-nephew of Hitler.

    He was trailed for seven days before he dropped a used serviette which Mulders said led him to the cousin in Austria - and the link with Hitler's sworn enemies

    Read more: 'Hitler was descended from Jews and Africans' DNA tests reveal | Mail Online
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    Everyone is descendant from Africa anyway.


    EDIT: Watch racists try to spin this into an indictment against Jews. I.e. for killing their own people.
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    I had a neighbor who was a very intelligent professor. And so when I was little I often heard him saying: There was no genocide. Simply a jew called Hitler with his Jewish friend Himler and some more Jews killed their Jewish brothers just to get rid of all the evil that lies in the Jewish nation.
    But he was a very committed Christian so he might have been subjective about the evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    I had a neighbor who was a very intelligent professor. And so when I was little I often heard him saying: There was no genocide. Simply a jew called Hitler with his Jewish friend Himler and some more Jews killed their Jewish brothers just to get rid of all the evil that lies in the Jewish nation.
    But he was a very committed Christian so he might have been subjective about the evil.
    Interesting perspective, definitely different, got me thinking, but I'd guess most people would be utterly offended because the Holocaust seems so ugly.

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    I should have probably had a more serious title, but I did not want to pass up the opportunity to lolz @ nazis, if it indeed is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean View Post
    I should have probably had a more serious title, but I did not want to pass up the opportunity to lolz @ nazis, if it indeed is true.
    yea I remember learning about this stuff in school 7/8th grade.... we had to do reports on the holocaust and I remember allegations coming forward that hitler was potentially jewish which to me seemed infinitely hypocritical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    Interesting perspective, definitely different, got me thinking, but I'd guess most people would be utterly offended because the Holocaust seems so ugly.
    To me it doesn't seem ugly at all. Stalin killed more and no American is sensitive about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    To me it doesn't seem ugly at all. Stalin killed more and no American is sensitive about it.
    good point.

    also, only 6 million jews were killed during the war, versus 20 million russians. But you never hear someone about that fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    To me it doesn't seem ugly at all. Stalin killed more and no American is sensitive about it.
    true, really to be completely honest, I don't know what other people would or would not think about such a thing... what do you personally think about it sarinana, do you agree or disagree with professor, is that your viewpoint also?
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    So maybe it means the Jew can be re-habilitated, like Hitler.

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    Hitler hated "the Jews" partly, or essentially, because he saw them as Christ-killers. Christ himself was Jewish...although you could argue he was born a Christian.

    ...although the Nazis did killed many people purely because they "looked Jewish", rather than because they actually were...and regardless of how Hitler might try to defend these apparent results, he's still a bad person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    good point.

    also, only 6 million jews were killed during the war, versus 20 million russians. But you never hear someone about that fact.
    The circumstances in which the Jews were killed in the Holocaust and in which the bulk of the Russians were killed were somewhat different. And it's false to say that you never hear about the scale of the Russian casualties in the war, if by 'you', you mean me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    good point.

    also, only 6 million jews were killed during the war, versus 20 million russians. But you never hear someone about that fact.
    You mean it was a small amount or that the death poll should be far higher plus 20 million Russians never were murdered. Well, maybe they were according to your own view of history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    The circumstances in which the Jews were killed in the Holocaust and in which the bulk of the Russians were killed were somewhat different.
    Yes.

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    Ah yes, the russians were merely burned down in their houses after they got raped. And the jewes died quickly while inhaling a fast working gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Ah yes, the russians were merely burned down in their houses after they got raped.
    20 million Russians were burned alive in their houses ?

    Where do you get this info from. Haha. This is hilarious. A source would be greatly appreciated, because I've never read or heard such bullshit. Pass it over. Would like to laugh 'till I drop dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    good point.

    also, only 6 million jews were killed during the war, versus 20 million russians. But you never hear someone about that fact.
    On a serious note, what are you trying to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Ah yes, the russians were merely burned down in their houses after they got raped. And the jewes died quickly while inhaling a fast working gas.
    Nah Russians would just shoot people on the streets, make them starve or deport them to Syberia in trains made for animals. I've learned about both Hitler and Stalin. Both were assholes but Hitler sounds like an idealistic angel compared to Stalin. It's just that the world is ruled by Jews so we only hear how poor their brothers are to survive such disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    Nah Russians would just shoot people on the streets, make them starve or deport them to Syberia in trains made for animals.
    That means no other government/nation shot it's own people on the streets ? Yes or no. How did he starve them and shame they couldn't afford the 380A trains.

    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    I've learned about both Hitler and Stalin. Both were assholes but Hitler sounds like an idealistic angel compared to Stalin.
    What was so angel-like in that arsehole ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    That means no other government/nation shot it's own people on the streets ? Yes or no. How did he starve them and shame they couldn't afford the 380A trains.



    What was so angel-like in that arsehole ?
    Ok let's take the same Jews for example. Stalin said he will help them and when they would come to Russia he would send them straight into Hitlers arms. Stalin tried to destroy everything, any culture differences among nations. He wanted a new better nation(just like Hitler) where everybody is equal. He made churches to be used as car garages, he tried to get rid of religion to make people weaker and they would be more easily controlled. He tried to ban Lithuanian language and all the others that are different from Russian. That's why now every dumb American thinks Lithuanian is the same as Russian. And we all have to be thankful to Stalin for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    On a serious note, what are you trying to say?
    on a serious note, I'm not saying that the jews were killed in a horrible way. I'm just saying that I noticed that every person knows the number of jews that were killed, but you never hear someone say something about the russians of which there died triple the amount. I find that remarkable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    on a serious note, I'm not saying that the jews were killed in a horrible way. I'm just saying that I noticed that every person knows the number of jews that were killed, but you never hear someone say something about the russians of which there died triple the amount. I find that remarkable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
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    Oke see you soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    That's why now every dumb American thinks Lithuanian is the same as Russian.
    you are just as bad as these "dumb Americans" for broadbrushing them like that.

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    blah, glam.. I think she'd agree that most of liths are also dumb.

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    yeah I use similar epithets for many nations. As long as people can laugh at themselves they are fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    on a serious note, I'm not saying that the jews were killed in a horrible way. I'm just saying that I noticed that every person knows the number of jews that were killed, but you never hear someone say something about the russians of which there died triple the amount. I find that remarkable.
    It´s called Holocaust Propaganda by the Jews. They were able to made the world just look at their own 2 million dead (it was impossible to kill 6 million Jews in 1942 because there were only 4 million Jews living in Europe at that time) as 6 million, tripling their own losses while making everyone forget the Soviets who died (around 20 million including non-Russians like Ucrainians, Lithuanians, and all the people who were incorporated into Soviet Union who were murdered).

    Hitler was indeed bad and evil but an idealistic, while Stalin was only bad and evil and psychopathic to the core. At the very least, Hitler did love his people the germans, while Stalin never cared about any life of his own people.

    Stalin and Communism were a far greater evil and monster than Hitler and Nazism, but because of Jewish Propaganda, most people think Nazism was worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Ah yes, the russians were merely burned down in their houses after they got raped. And the jewes died quickly while inhaling a fast working gas.
    The Russian army was incredibly poorly equipped, often not even having weapons or the very basic of uniforms needed for the conditions.

    Much of the general population was starved not necessarily as a direct consequence of the Nazis, but because of the incompetence or lack of concern of Stalin etc. Many civilians also got caught up in the conflict, rather than leave their homes.

    Also, being gassed was hardly the only means that Jews and other victims of the Holocaust were killed...and no, it wasn't always a quick death...and no, not really a pleasant one.

    "raping" and "burning" happened on both the German and the Soviet sides...while the Holocaust was a rather one-sided affair, involving the cold, systematic utilisatation and murder of many people. And I'm still puzzled at your puzzlement that the scale of Russian deaths in World War II is unknown.

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    It´s called Holocaust Propaganda by the Jews. They were able to made the world just look at their own 2 million dead (it was impossible to kill 6 million Jews in 1942 because there were only 4 million Jews living in Europe at that time) as 6 million, tripling their own losses while making everyone forget the Soviets who died (around 20 million including non-Russians like Ucrainians, Lithuanians, and all the people who were incorporated into Soviet Union who were murdered).
    I can only hope that you are seriously misinformed.

    And why attempt to defend Hitler, at the expense of Stalin? It's not a bloody competition. For all you know, Stalin had some condition that made him pathologically paranoid. Maybe indeed Hitler had his own illness. The important thing to learn is that it's not great to go round killing people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    I can only hope that you are seriously misinformed.
    No I´m not. I think even the Jewish Enciclopaedia listed the total Jew population in Europe in 1940 as around 4 million. But if you search for other proofs that there were only 4 million Jews in Europa in 1940, you will find them, I can guarantee, from reliable sources. The 6 million figure is a total exaggeration, made partly by the Soviets, to demonize the Germans, their biggest enemies back then, and partly by the worldwide Jewish lobby who knew how to take advantage of this exaggeration.

    Soviets also invented other things such as 'ovens' and even the famous Auschwitz Gas Chambers which had to be relocated 4 times because serious researchers have proven that each of the 'chamber' could not, logically and mathematically speaking, have been used to kill people through Zyklon-B gas.
    The first chambers were collective showers. The Soviets made up the story of the gas chambers. I don´t think there was ever one single gas chamber. Prisioners were killed in a much more efficient manner, through simple starving as you can see in many pictures, or through shooting. One single rifle bullet could trespass several bodies. Even a pistol Luger 9mm has a bullet which can kill some 5 people with a decent shot if they´re put in a line and then shot. Germans mostly killed people these ways.

    And why attempt to defend Hitler, at the expense of Stalin? It's not a bloody competition. For all you know, Stalin had some condition that made him pathologically paranoid. Maybe indeed Hitler had his own illness. The important thing to learn is that it's not great to go round killing people.
    Yes, Hitler had another illness, he was certainly mentally ill, perhaps he was sociopathic. He was also paranoid about the Jews having a secret plan to rule the world and destroy the white race. He saw himself as a great saviour against the plotters. Stalin was also mentally ill. This puts them in a similar level, of course. But at least Hitler improved living conditions in Germany and seemed to love at least the Germans, who now so much despise him, even though Hitler clearly lacked empathy for anyone or anything which was not German or Aryan, which is something pathological. And I´m not saying it is good to go round killing people don´t distort my words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by None View Post
    It´s called Holocaust Propaganda by the Jews. They were able to made the world just look at their own 2 million dead (it was impossible to kill 6 million Jews in 1942 because there were only 4 million Jews living in Europe at that time) as 6 million, tripling their own losses while making everyone forget the Soviets who died (around 20 million including non-Russians like Ucrainians, Lithuanians, and all the people who were incorporated into Soviet Union who were murdered).
    Wrong
    The original document that Adolf Eichmann used for the Wannsee Conference in 1942 listed the number of Jews per country in Europe; it rounds up to 11 million+
    Do some actual research on the holocaust instead of getting your information off of aryan nation BS sites
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    I heard that those 6 million Jews are alive and well, living under the crust of the Earth. Archaeologists seen and examined them but something was not right. According to some eyewitness, the name I won't betray, these archaeologists were sent from Venus in UFOs. Archaeologists only have been disguised as archaeologists, they were from outer space, aliens. I don't know what's going on with THE Jews right now. People speculate they disappeared after the Venus Delta Nazi Alien mafia discovered their lair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by None View Post
    ...blah blah nonsense...
    You seem to have serious issues and I hope we never meet. Even the most charitable conceivable explanation for your hugely distorted and obviously heavily invested view of history makes me feel queasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
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    What is up with your frenzied perversity? I'm sure there are many less twisted obsessions you could engage yourself with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    What is up with your frenzied perversity? I'm sure there are many less twisted obsessions you could engage yourself with.
    What do you mean ?

    And yea, I would like to meet him.

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    I heard that those 6 million Jews are alive and well, living under the crust of the Earth. Archaeologists seen and examined them but something was not right. According to some eyewitness, the name I won't betray, these archaeologists were sent from Venus in UFOs. Archaeologists only have been disguised as archaeologists, they were from outer space, aliens. I don't know what's going on with THE Jews right now. People speculate they disappeared after the Venus Delta Nazi Alien mafia discovered their lair.
    I've heard that Hitler really took a submarine and fled to the South Pole, where the main entrance into the hollow Earth lies, and is still living down there...

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    I heard he's still alive in a cryogenic chamber inside a secret Nazi base on the Moon.
    You can do anything with a bayonet except sit on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat View Post
    I've heard that Hitler really took a submarine and fled to the South Pole, where the main entrance into the hollow Earth lies, and is still living down there...
    Is it an Alpha or Delta thingie to believe in such fairy tales ?

    No, he didn't. Yes, there were several submarines there. Not only German, also American. Americans were so alarmed and shitting they went to check what the fuss is all about.

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    Is it an Alpha or Delta thingie to believe in such fairy tales ?

    No, he didn't. Yes, there were several submarines there. Not only German, also American. Americans were so alarmed and shitting they went to check what the fuss is all about.
    so you don't deny the South Pole entrance into the hollow Earth, just that Hitler is still alive down there, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat View Post
    so you don't deny the South Pole entrance into the hollow Earth, just that Hitler is still alive down there, right?
    Ouch! You got me, BG. No, I don't. I think that's what Obersturmführer was trying to tell us all the time. Hmm. I bet he knows secrets you and me wouldn't want to know.

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