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    Lately I've been interested in spotting fellow ENTps: I suspect both my logic teacher and a religion teacher that lives in my dorm of being ILE, as well as a recent acquaintence.

    So what I'm really getting at here is this: what makes me ILE? What do you notice about me, or any other ENTp here on the board, that makes our type apparent to you? What are our trademarks? I know what to look for in other types, but to be honest, my own has always been a bit of a mystery to me; I suspect that I may have mistyped a few people as IEE or LII who are, in reality, ILE.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    Lately I've been interested in spotting fellow ENTps: I suspect both my logic teacher and a religion teacher that lives in my dorm of being ILE, as well as a recent acquaintence.

    So what I'm really getting at here is this: what makes me ILE? What do you notice about me, or any other ENTp here on the board, that makes our type apparent to you? What are our trademarks? I know what to look for in other types, but to be honest, my own has always been a bit of a mystery to me; I suspect that I may have mistyped a few people as IEE or LII who are, in reality, ILE.
    FOR the last time, you are not ENTP, forget it.
    Well I am back. How's everyone? Don't have as much time now, but glad to see some of the old gang are still here.

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    Oh boy.

    So what am I? ENFj? ENFp? INFp? I've heard em all, buddy. But let's hear it.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    FOR the last time, you are not ENTP, forget it.



    Anyway, Gilligan, you may be asking for a bigger response than you may realize. It might take a whole article section to explain what specifics makes a type a type. I have been wondering about this too. I'd know that I am ISTP, and the other people that share my type, but the question is what exactly is it that seperates us? Socionics isn't specific enough. God how true that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    Oh boy.

    So what am I? ENFj? ENFp? INFp? I've heard em all, buddy. But let's hear it.
    What am I, the architect? I don't know what you are. But we can find out.

    Give me these answers:

    1-your fav movie of all time

    2-your fav singer band of all time

    3-your fav beautiful woman of all time

    4-your fav sport of all time

    5-your fav actor of all time

    6-your fav song of all time

    7-your dream job when you were a kid
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    What do those questions have to do with type?
    MAYBE I'LL BREAK DOWN!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    FOR the last time, you are not ENTP, forget it.



    Anyway, Gilligan, you may be asking for a bigger response than you may realize. It might take a whole article section to explain what specifics makes a type a type. I have been wondering about this too. I'd know that I am ISTP, and the other people that share my type, but the question is what exactly is it that seperates us? Socionics isn't specific enough. God how true that is.
    For God's sake, an ENTP would never ask such questions in such a way.
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    Then how would they ask questions?
    MAYBE I'LL BREAK DOWN!!!


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    1-your fav movie of all time - Fight Club/ A Clockwork Orange

    2-your fav singer band of all time - Beck

    3-your fav beautiful woman of all time - tough question. Maybe Carmen Elektra

    4-your fav sport of all time - lacrosse

    5-your fav actor of all time - Christopher Walken

    6-your fav song of all time - Billy Joel - Piano Man

    7-your dream job when you were a kid - writer
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    FOR the last time, you are not ENTP, forget it.



    Anyway, Gilligan, you may be asking for a bigger response than you may realize. It might take a whole article section to explain what specifics makes a type a type. I have been wondering about this too. I'd know that I am ISTP, and the other people that share my type, but the question is what exactly is it that seperates us? Socionics isn't specific enough. God how true that is.

    Wanna trade articles? I'm up for it...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    FOR the last time, you are not ENTP, forget it.



    Anyway, Gilligan, you may be asking for a bigger response than you may realize. It might take a whole article section to explain what specifics makes a type a type. I have been wondering about this too. I'd know that I am ISTP, and the other people that share my type, but the question is what exactly is it that seperates us? Socionics isn't specific enough. God how true that is.

    Wanna trade articles? I'm up for it...
    Maybe.
    MAYBE I'LL BREAK DOWN!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    1-your fav movie of all time - Fight Club/ A Clockwork Orange

    2-your fav singer band of all time - Beck

    3-your fav beautiful woman of all time - tough question. Maybe Carmen Elektra

    4-your fav sport of all time - lacrosse

    5-your fav actor of all time - Christopher Walken

    6-your fav song of all time - Billy Joel - Piano Man

    7-your dream job when you were a kid - writer


    My verdict is ESFP and I stake my left ball on this decision.
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    Do you have any pics from when you were really young toddler or something?

    Post them here.
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    Nope, sorry.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    Nope, sorry.
    Any older ones when you were 10 etc?
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    Nothing older than a few months.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Some more questions:

    1-How much do you sleep?

    2-Your fav book of all time?

    3-Your fav philosopher of all time?

    4-Your fav musical instrument?

    5-your fav wine?

    6-Your fav suit color?

    7- Your fav classical composer?
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    8- Your feelings towards me at this moment? (don't be nice, its' a scientific test)
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    1-How much do you sleep? 6-8 hours

    2-Your fav book of all time? - either Paradise Lost or The Lord of the Rings

    3-Your fav philosopher of all time? - my views line up with Sextus Empiricus

    4-Your fav musical instrument? - Violin

    5-your fav wine? - Merlot

    6-Your fav suit color? - navy blue, to bring out my eyes.

    7- Your fav classical composer? - Beethoven

    8- Your feelings towards me at this moment? Wondering what these questions are telling you about my type, and what you're thinking right now
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    It seems to me clear that:

    1-You are not ENTp

    2-you seem gamma

    3-You are not upset with me. AN ENTP would never bother to give accurate answers to these questions because knowledge per se does not interest them at all.

    4-You claimed once that you could be ESFP. I will accept that until it makes no more sense to me.
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    It seems clear to me that:

    1. You think you know more than you really do

    2. You think you know more than you really do

    3. You think you know more than you really do

    4. You probably know nothing.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    It seems clear to me that:

    1. You think you know more than you really do

    2. You think you know more than you really do

    3. You think you know more than you really do

    4. You probably know nothing.
    Could be my boy, could be, but I still bet my left ball :wink:
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    You should thank me. Your ISFP girlfriend is making you ENTP, going against nature and hence creating a inbalance that in time will bite her behind and perhaps more
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    You know, I might buy that if I hadn't been typed ENTp about 6 months before I dated her.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    You know, I might buy that if I hadn't been typed ENTp about 6 months before I dated her.
    sorry, do you know any other isfp?
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    Only one, and I'm not in contact with him very often, although I consider him a friend.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Gilligan is ILE, and those questions are completely pointless in determining type.

    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    So what I'm really getting at here is this: what makes me ILE? What do you notice about me, or any other ENTp here on the board, that makes our type apparent to you? What are our trademarks? I know what to look for in other types, but to be honest, my own has always been a bit of a mystery to me; I suspect that I may have mistyped a few people as IEE or LII who are, in reality, ILE.
    I'm not exactly sure what you're asking here, but I'll take a stab at it.

    Most of the ILEs that I've met seem to resemble Jon Stewart in the way that they act/talk. I'm assuming you know who Jon Stewart is, and what he's like.
    When I first meet them, I consider them "Weird SLEs." For example, being SLE myself, I compare my mannerisms and behavior to them, and I notice that we ultimately share the and lack the . That is, that the ILEs are generally more concerned with making sense, rather than being concerned as to whether they're unknowingly pissing someone off.
    Most of them seem to be a little spacey, but can turn on the if they really need to. They're usually really funny people, and completely ignore political correctness.

    You seem to do all of this, and are pretty similar to the other ILEs that I know IRL.

    I'm not really sure what else to say, so I hope that this cut it.
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    V.I. wise, it's not easy for me to distinguish ILEs. I haven't found any recognizable charateristic, yet. The two I know, seem much more laid back than the greates majority of ESTps, which beam energy.

    Upon first contact, however, I'll immediatly know that they're NTs. Their wit is clear, and I'm usually glad to be challenged. We usually share a lot of interests, and I like doing schoolwork with them, because they provide interesting perispectives, help in understand etc. However, problems arise when the discussions go in-depht: I'll start being pissed about their relativistic stance towards everything, and about their disregard for the people close to them coupled with an extreme regard for the people they don't know. I also usually feel like I'm being a bit taken advantage of - both the ones I know used to ask me to do their homework because they knew I don't refuse to do things for good friends. They usually try to put me down in public - I don't reply for 1,2,3, times, and then I start a devastating - rant which leaves them horribly bedazzled. Still, we're usually good friends, and we share the same NT-worldview, though there remains a strange psychological distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraus
    Gilligan is ILE, and those questions are completely pointless in determining type.
    To the uninitiated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    Quote Originally Posted by Kraus
    Gilligan is ILE, and those questions are completely pointless in determining type.
    To the uninitiated
    Well then. Explain how they actually have anything to do with determining someone's type.

    Don't leave out any details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraus
    Gilligan is ILE, and those questions are completely pointless in determining type.
    To the uninitiated
    Well then. Explain how they actually have anything to do with determining someone's type.

    Don't leave out any details.
    My father is ENTP, he would never say that Fight Club is his fav movie, even if it was
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    Yeah, because all ENTps hate Fight Club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraus
    Yeah, because all ENTps hate Fight Club.
    They don't hate it, but its' not for them. Its' a very InFP movie, in fact my INFP friend pretty much kidnaped me to make me watch it
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    Well considering that three of my ILE friends love that movie (and the book too), proves that you don't know what you're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraus
    Well considering that three of my ILE friends love that movie (and the book too), proves that you don't know what you're talking about.
    The question was: what is your FAVOURITE movie?, meaning that it is THE movie that you want us to associate with you, a part of your identity. An ENTP would never say that, its' impossible. Ask your friends whats their FAV movie, none of them will say Fight Club. That choice would be a LOGICAL IMPOSSIBILITY for an ENTP
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    Oh dear.
    MAYBE I'LL BREAK DOWN!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Oh dear.
    Yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Oh dear.
    My sentiments exactly.




    The question was: what is your FAVOURITE movie?, meaning that it is THE movie that you want us to associate with you, a part of your identity. An ENTP would never say that, its' impossible. Ask your friends whats their FAV movie, none of them will say Fight Club. That choice would be a LOGICAL IMPOSSIBILITY for an ENTP
    Two of the three ILEs say that it's their favorite movie.

    And using favorite movie to determine type is total fucking bullshit. That's just like saying that everyone in Africa is typeless, just because they don't watch movies. It's also like saying that people didn't develop types until the 20th century, and in America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraus
    Two of the three ILEs say that it's their favorite movie.
    I have to make such strong statements in order to get my point across. However to believe your questioning it would have to be done under scientifcally sound conditions. ESTPs are great at making you say what they want you to


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    And using favorite movie to determine type is total fucking bullshit. That's just like saying that everyone in Africa is typeless, just because they don't watch movies. It's also like saying that people didn't develop types until the 20th century, and in America.
    Movies are a time and and place specific variable. If we were in Africa I might ask about the kind of music that people prefer. In North America movies are one of the main vehicles of socialization, as Paris Hilton knws very well
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    I don't know what the hell you're trying to get at here, but whatever it is, it makes absolutely no sense.

    WHAT TYPES OF ENTERTAINMENT ONE ENJOYS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH TYPE. AT ALL.

    When movies come out and hit the masses, there are obviously people from every type that like it, or else it wouldn't be a success at all. Therefore, whatever you've said about types not liking movies is entirely false.

    You're treating this as if it's scientific, and there is nothing about popular entertainment that is scientific at all. Get over it.
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