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    The Analyst (LII)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    Why is this test the same test I have taken already ?

    EDIT: Oh sorry, I know why

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    It's odd. I relate to both Te super ID (seeking it and being open, unsure) and Te ego (using it and aiding people), but then Ni over everything. Anyhaps, I'll take the test again in a bit.

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    Shit, I got 68% on SLE and LII.

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    Hmm. Remind not to take tests when a bit drunk.

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    Which statement do you relate to the best?

    "I long for establishing stable personal relationships with other individuals based on mutual trust and understanding where deeper and private feelings and experiences can be easily shared. However, I lack the initiative to establish such relationships and usually expect others to make gestures in that area."

    "I am always in tune to the emotional flow surrounding me, and respond to it spontaneously and directly. I seek out and create activities where people are totally engaged in what they are doing."

    "I strive to make and maintain close, personal relationships with my friends and family, and value sensitivity to others' feelings, and will occasionally make my innermost feelings and sentiments known in order to test the possibility of creating closeness with others."

    "I do not normally pay attention to the nuances of interpersonal relationships; I am either overly suspicious or overly assuming of my relations with others when they are not clearly defined. More importance is given to these relations as they pertain to objective mutual benefit, rather than seeing the relationships as rewarding in and of themselves."

    "I relate to none of the above statements, or cannot decide between them."
    Totally fallacious distinguisher for Fe/Fi. I easily chose the third over the others.
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    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

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    "I am calm, balanced and inert; I am '“unflappable'; I may appear passive-aggressive; I usually have a very stable mood; I am more reactive than active; I have little inclination to fidget during long periods of inactivity."

    "I am proactive; I am restless; I find it difficult to relax unless tired; I am '"calmly energetic' with few intense variations in the level of energy during the day; I am inclined to fidget when forced to remain inactive for long periods."

    "I am relaxed; I 'go-with-the-flow'; I find it easy to spend long periods of time in no activity, or at very low levels of energy; I have little inclination towards fidgetiness when having to remain inactive for longer periods."

    "I am flexible; I am mobile; I am impulsive, shifting from apparent inactivity to bursts of energy, often several times a day, showing impatience during them; I am inclined to fidget when forced to remain inactive for long periods."

    "I relate to none of the above statements, or cannot decide between them."
    Good temperament question.
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    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    The Mentor (EIE)

    You scored 32% on ILE, higher than 19% of your peers.
    You scored 41% on LII, higher than 26% of your peers.
    You scored 35% on SEI, higher than 22% of your peers.
    You scored 44% on ESE, higher than 75% of your peers.
    You scored 38% on SLE, higher than 46% of your peers.
    You scored 38% on LSI, higher than 32% of your peers.
    You scored 71% on IEI, higher than 99% of your peers.
    You scored 88% on EIE, higher than 99% of your peers.
    You scored 44% on SEE, higher than 72% of your peers.
    You scored 41% on ESI, higher than 44% of your peers.
    You scored 50% on ILI, higher than 42% of your peers.
    You scored 62% on LIE, higher than 93% of your peers.
    You scored 44% on IEE, higher than 54% of your peers.
    You scored 38% on EII, higher than 25% of your peers.
    You scored 12% on SLI, higher than 1% of your peers.
    You scored 26% on LSE, higher than 6% of your peers.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    I can see EP. I'm flexible and impulsive. Somewhat immobile, and not typically that high energy though. I can often just sit and read and think for a span of time. On camera I was able to notice how much more "mobile" and "fidgety" I really am, even though I'm still quite relaxed. IP > EP > IJ > EJ. I wouldn't really call myself balanced, rational, or stable, just cool and relaxed, and I usually wouldn't call myself extroverted either, so it could be a subtype difference. 'Specially like when alone, I will do a lot of pacing while thinking and light activity, as if activity is better when people aren't in your way telling you what to do, and I'm free to calmly explore. It might be my reason for seeing a limited EP, is that I don't have enough freedom and I'm sort of misanthropic lmao.

    Obviously I never cared for temperament that much, but it is interesting to think about.

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    Well Judicious quadras are all "naturally relaxed," except for the EJs who tend towards a more sort of fluid mobility; even though they are more energetic, they still have a kind of obvious lack of internal tension compared to Decisive types.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Yeah, it could be because my family is all decisive types, and I've never felt I could "relax" by being EP. If I were EPing around my house all day, for instance, I would feel uncomfortable because of the noise, the people, sort of being misanthropic, not wanting to talk about boring things, or make decisions, have people need me or ask for help (because its my home, my haven of relaxation, you know?), would rather just read or think in order to be "free," and I could only do that by having some independence... usually I'll be still, immobile, and in a certain hidden area in order to have real relaxation. My dad is always busy doing things, projects, wants my help. Much more of a non-relaxed extrovert, so I have to get away. If I wasn't as uncomfortable, I would be prancing around, perceiving things, no weight or looks. Going out and getting away doesn't always make me relaxed. Does that make sense?
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    I wouldn't trust the results of this test, as there were quite a few choices that I couldn't choose from. Parts of some would apply, but the rest wouldn't, etc. On those I chose the last option (stating that none applied or that I couldn't choose one).

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Yeah, it could be because my family is all decisive types, and I've never felt I could "relax" by being EP. If I were EPing around my house all day, for instance, I would feel uncomfortable because of the noise, the people, sort of being misanthropic, not wanting to talk about boring things, or make decisions, have people need me or ask for help (because its my home, my haven of relaxation, you know?), would rather just read or think in order to be "free," and I could only do that by having some independence... usually I'll be still, immobile, and in a certain hidden area in order to have real relaxation. My dad is always busy doing things, projects, wants my help. Much more of a non-relaxed extrovert, so I have to get away. If I wasn't as uncomfortable, I would be prancing around, perceiving things, no weight or looks. Does that make sense?
    No weight - You are an extrovert.
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    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    I feel like I'll always have weight, because of my indecision and always questioning things, and not being refreshed enough, dwelling on old concerns, etc. But no weight just in that no one wants to put new burden on me, and I can hold intelligently without having to work my ass off or prove myself lol, and it can be the little things that bother me, like others' questions and concerns. I almost feel like I'm overly irrational and other people want me to focus, act, come to conclusions, just a bit too much than I'd care for.

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    I really enjoyed taking this test, because I didn't immediately think about what the item was testing. This made it easier to answer each question honestly.


    The Empath (EII)

    You scored 32% on ILE, higher than 19% of your peers.
    You scored 59% on LII, higher than 59% of your peers.
    You scored 53% on SEI, higher than 79% of your peers.
    You scored 44% on ESE, higher than 76% of your peers.
    You scored 9% on SLE, higher than 1% of your peers.
    You scored 29% on LSI, higher than 11% of your peers.
    You scored 41% on IEI, higher than 26% of your peers.
    You scored 29% on EIE, higher than 21% of your peers.
    You scored 41% on SEE, higher than 63% of your peers.
    You scored 65% on ESI, higher than 94% of your peers.
    You scored 35% on ILI, higher than 8% of your peers.
    You scored 26% on LIE, higher than 3% of your peers.
    You scored 65% on IEE, higher than 94% of your peers.
    You scored 94% on EII, higher than 99% of your peers.
    You scored 47% on SLI, higher than 51% of your peers.
    You scored 41% on LSE, higher than 64% of your peers.
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    Heh, idk, the idea of being "weightless" is something I sort of associate with EPs. There's this movie, The Unbearable Lightness of Being, about this Fe/Ti irrational pair, Daniel Day Lewis plays some SLE-Ti and the love interest is some Fe-IP, probably SEI; at one point in the movie she writes him a letter about how he has wandered for so many years, broken her heart, yadda yadda, and in describing how he sort of just moves through life without thought for consequence, she says, "Life is so light for you."
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    See for me, I feel a sort of latent weight, and it's something I sometimes try to ignore, which always causes me to hide myself and produces a sort of repressed negative feedback, but my real desire is to sort of pick it up and wrangle with it and demolish it entirely.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Heh, idk, the idea of being "weightless" is something I sort of associate with EPs. There's this movie, The Unbearable Lightness of Being, about this Fe/Ti irrational pair, Daniel Day Lewis plays some SLE-Ti and the love interest is some Fe-IP, probably SEI; at one point in the movie she writes him a letter about how he has wandered for so many years, broken her heart, yadda yadda, and in describing how he sort of just moves through life without thought for consequence, she says, "Life is so light for you."
    I relate to that, but one thing is that I'm not really energetic, so a lot of times I'll just pass up on opportunities or not even think of doing something (to sort of twist what you were saying). Instead of not thinking while acting, I might also not think to act because I don't care, so it almost puts me in the middle of IP and EP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    See for me, I feel a sort of latent weight, and it's something I sometimes try to ignore, which always causes me to hide myself and produces a sort of repressed negative feedback, but my real desire is to sort of pick it up and wrangle with it and demolish it entirely.
    Yeah this does sound like EJ, although I wouldn't say I don't relate somewhat to it either. I'm not really careless and I do have some second thoughts, some halts.

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    Hmmm. Well IPs tend to be internally inertiatic, whereas EPs tend towards inertia only when circumstances dictate it.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Hmmm. Well IPs tend to be internally inertiatic, whereas EPs tend towards inertia only when circumstances dictate it.
    I've always related to IP more than EP, I guess. Even if there is nothing in my way, I will often not be attentive enough to my surroundings to make a change, but I will certainly have more mobility than when there's external limits or something bothering me. I tend to seek things out more when there are no limits. I was trying to see if there is a subtype difference, if the creative EPs, like Ti-ILEs relate more to IP, or being more inert. I think archon said he relates more to IP--and like you said, Ne/Sis are more relaxed.

    Look at John Lennon for example. Isn't he a Ti-ILE? he looks pretty relaxed and somewhat more inert. I see him as "statically" mobile or fidgetty, doesn't look too energetic or Se valuing "non-relaxed," and comes across as trying to be serious.

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    I think Ji-EPs tend more towards having sort of contained energy, like their natural tendency is to sort of "strike outwards" from a more centrally maintained internal position; they dualize with Je-IPs because the overall sense is a sense of general patience and "going with the flow," with "issues" that need to be tackled readily brought to the forefront, which are outlets for the "outward striking." If that makes any sense.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I wouldn't use John Lennon as an exemplar. His type is a matter of strong controversy, as far as I understand.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    I think Ji-EPs tend more towards having sort of contained energy, like their natural tendency is to sort of "strike outwards" from a more centrally maintained internal position; they dualize with Je-IPs because the overall sense is a sense of general patience and "going with the flow," with "issues" that need to be tackled readily brought to the forefront, which are outlets for the "outward striking." If that makes any sense.
    I don't get what this underlined part means, but what you said is uncontradictory to how I would think of myself, and there is contained energy to be used, even though I'm really just relaxed and effortless by nature, but the high amounts of energy are typically used more so if there is a good reason, where there wouldn't be these thoughts or opportunities to always impulsively act most of the time--even though I do spontaneous nonsensical movements too without thinking of the consequences. I don't overthink it, I just don't typically have a reason to do something crazy. Sometimes I'll just want to, an internal need, I'll say okay I'm going to do this right now, and I will, and it will often lead to more improvising, but I'm definitely not Mr. Energetic, and I feel that I am pretty serious and dislike senseless overdone behavior, more emphasis on overdone and "annoying" and "crazy." If you were to just see me on video, you might get a better more located idea.

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    Well the idea of EJ assisting IP is that EJ brings deviations from the flux to the attention of the EP, who is sort of responsible for tackling them in some manner.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Well the idea of EJ assisting IP is that EJ brings deviations from the flux to the attention of the EP, who is sort of responsible for tackling them in some manner.
    I don't know. I'm not really sure how aware I am of these things, or if you can give me an example of a deviation from the flux and an EP noticing it. I assumed irrational behavior had less to do with caring about that sort of thing, but I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Totally fallacious distinguisher for Fe/Fi. I easily chose the third over the others.
    It seems overblown to say it was "totally fallacious". I don't think the interpersonal vs. intrapersonal distinguishment between Fe and Fi is incorrect, but of course these options are the Ego functions in their strongest terms. I don't think it's particularly problematic for an apparent EIE to choose the third option.

    (As it happens, the last time I took the test, I chose the first option - applicable to primarily SLIs and ILIs, when perhaps I should have chosen the third option, applicable to primarily ILEs and SLEs).

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Good temperament question.
    That was derived from bullet-point desciptions by Gulenko - but I took out the descriptions of body movement I believe.

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    74% SLI
    59% LSE
    56% LIE
    53% EII
    50% LII
    47% IEE
    47% IEI
    47% SEI
    41% ILE
    41% SEE
    41% ESI
    38% LSI
    35% SLE
    32% ESE
    29% EIE

    I like this test. I have to admit though, the first page always looks promising. By the time I reach the 4th page, my eyes glaze over with reading too much text. I'll try doing the test in the morning when my mind is fresh. In any case, my results are relatively consistent with the first version, with a higher SLI score the exception.

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    I need a SEI to recommend a better font + size. I'm not even completely sure what the font is...possibly Times New Roman. I just wanted to get the test done and not worry about such details, hoping it would inspire someone to make a much better test .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    It seems overblown to say it was "totally fallacious". I don't think the interpersonal vs. intrapersonal distinguishment between Fe and Fi is incorrect, but of course these options are the Ego functions in their strongest terms. I don't think it's particularly problematic for an apparent EIE to choose the third option.

    (As it happens, the last time I took the test, I chose the first option - applicable to primarily SLIs and ILIs, when perhaps I should have chosen the third option, applicable to primarily ILEs and SLEs).
    The problem is that Introverted Ethics is about much more than relationships and psychological distance, and Extroverted Ethics is about much more than emotional atmosphere, "having fun," etc. Personally I, and plenty of other Fe valuers I know, place a much higher premium on having close relationships and comfortable psychological distance with a select few, than "having a good time" or "being in a positive atmosphere." In fact I think the thing about being in a particular "atmosphere" is related mostly to Si.

    I don't think anything about "internal dynamics of objects" or "internal statics of fields" suggests the kind of distinctions that are implied in either the test question or what seem to be your more generalized definitions of Fe and Fi.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I think I've always been more attracted to IPs in real life, than EPs or EJs. So it could be telling in favor of EP too.

    From an influence of your EP-ij behavior description, I sort of had some impression of the four subtype behaviors, and drew a little chart. Not really sure how accurate or understandable or useful it is, but I think I relate to the IJ sybtype one.

    Just picture it in terms of having more or less energy, depending on the temperament. Shorter or straighter arrows for introverts. (think I may have made EP too long)


    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    The problem is that Introverted Ethics is about much more than relationships and psychological distance, and Extroverted Ethics is about much more than emotional atmosphere, "having fun," etc.
    I think at least "psychological distance" is one of a few good words for Fi.

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    "When I am not interested by the theme of a conversation I remain silent and severe, but this cold demeanor is difficult to sustain."

    This is referring to LII, I'm sure (maybe a specific subtype), but it's really hard to relate to... in fact it seems contradictory. I'm usually severe, but can't sustain that? I remember there being a discussion of this segment on this forum... whatever the context it was acquired from though, it seems nonsensical in the context of the test question.



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    I think at least "psychological distance" is one of a few good words for Fi.
    Well my problem is with people reducing Fi to purely the idea of "relationships," and Fe to the idea of "emotions," which causes a rather stigma-prone dichotomy.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
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    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    "When I am not interested by the theme of a conversation I remain silent and severe, but this cold demeanor is difficult to sustain."

    This is referring to LII, I'm sure (maybe a specific subtype), but it's really hard to relate to... in fact it seems contradictory. I'm usually severe, but can't sustain that? I remember there being a discussion of this segment on this forum... whatever the context it was acquired from though, it seems nonsensical in the context of the test question.
    The test had 4 questions involving the four quadras (with the four types of each quadra being in each of those questions). I used the primary subtype description for each type in order that each description was as distinct as it could be from the other three.

    I don't think it's particularly contradicting - I think what it's trying to say is that such an individual tends to be silent and severe when the conversation doesn't interest them, but that they would greatly like to be involved in a conversation that does interest them (even if this means attempting to direct the concersation).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Well my problem is with people reducing Fi to purely the idea of "relationships," and Fe to the idea of "emotions," which causes a rather stigma-prone dichotomy.
    I don't believe that the options do that. I think it does describe inter- and intrapersonal emotions and relationships.
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