It's clear from the Gamma exodus to socionics workshop (or off the radar entirely) that this forum was never a haven for Gammas, Ashton is not actually Gamma (neither is CPig). Not to mention various remarks a few years ago from Gammas that if Ashton were to be unbanned, they would leave. Gammas just don't like Ashton. So given that he's undoubtedly Se/Ni, that makes him Beta. I added a poll for your consideration, but I don't even expect it to be very balanced.
niffweed has a good rationale for the socionics aspect here (my additions in brackets):
I've seen him on camera, and the "online persona" wank is easy to debunk. Definitely Ti subtype if he is an SLE. As for Enneagram, he posted a thread on EIDB a while ago asking if he was 8w7 or 7w8. I have no doubt he's an MBTT (self-typed) INTJ SLE - so is esper's husband - and the idea of an INTJ 7w8 is ridiculous, whereas 8w7 makes more sense.Originally Posted by niffweed
As for variant, his presence and level of command he has over his troops over at socionix is unbelievable, almost enviable. How he has managed to get people to believe in him and what he's saying is definitely an EIE or Eight thing, and sx Eights are the best at doing this (there are some Eights on typewatch, and we're all sp Eights, maybe with a few sx Eights, and I couldn't imagine them having half the impact Ashton does). An LIE sure as shit wouldn't have the level of impact he does - they're not inspirational at all. He'll say that he doesn't have any impact at all; that they make their own decisions etc. BULLSHIT - the whole point of the sx Eight is that they command a level of respect regardless of whether or not they seem low key (as the sx/sp is in comparison to the sx/so). Pure power play for Ashton; he loves the control he has. His lackeys (probably mostly Beta NFs) are in awe of him like he's a fucking god and he LOVES it. Watch him respond to me that this is not the case. Just watch it. But he knows internally I have him down to a T. Why? Because we're virtually the same type (only the stacking is different).