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    Fire Emblem and Suikoden together constitute a treasure trove of VI. Enough characters are featured that I am quite persuaded that every EM variant of every type is represented.

    I see this endeavor as the first step to building a truly massive and representative VI database. The existence of such a database would change socionics as we know it and the public's reception to it.

    Resources

    FE 8: The Sacred Stones

    Game script: The Sacred Stones

    Support conversations (intertype relations resource): The Sacred Stones

    FE 7: Blazing Sword

    Game script:
    http://www.serenesforest.net/fe7/script/ (partial)
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/gba/468480-f...lem/faqs/26823 (full)

    Support conversations: http://www.serenesforest.net/fe7/support/index.html

    Characters

    FE 8


    Eirika
    Lord
    The princess of the Kingdom of Renais. She's elegant and kind.

    Seth
    Paladin
    A young commander of Renais. He's calm, composed, and skilled.

    Franz
    Cavalier
    An earnest and compassionate cavalier from Renais.

    Gilliam
    Knight
    An armoured knight from Frelia. He's quiet yet dependable.

    Vanessa
    Pegasus Knight
    A sincere, honest, and honourable pegasus knight of Frelia.

    Moulder
    Priest
    A mature priest of Frelia. He's gentle and reassuring.

    Ross
    Journeyman
    A young villager. He longs to be a warrior, like his father.

    Garcia
    Fighter
    A villager from Renais. He was once a feared military leader.

    Neimi
    Archer
    A childhood friend of Colm who hails from Renais. She cries a lot.

    Colm
    Thief
    A childhood friend of Neimi who hails from Renais. He can be snide.

    Artur
    Monk
    A young monk from Renais. He is a very forthright and pious man.

    Lute
    Mage
    A young mage of Renais. She believes she is a prodigy.

    Natasha
    Cleric
    A beautiful cleric from the Grado Empire. She's graceful and serious.

    Joshua
    Myrmidon
    A wandering sword fighter from Jehanna. He loves to gamble.

    Ephraim
    Lord
    The prince of Renais. He is a man of great honour and bravery.

    Forde
    Cavalier
    A cavalier from Renais. He is skilled, but reckless. He's Franz's brother.

    Kyle
    Cavalier
    A steadfast and honourable cavalier in sworn service to Renais.

    Orson
    Paladin
    A cavalier of Renais. He's a devoted husband and a serene and quiet man.

    Tana
    Pegasus Knight
    A young lady of Frelia. She is both cheery and sociable.

    Amelia
    Recruit
    A young girl from a small village in Grado. She is honest and sincere.

    Innes
    Sniper
    The prince of Frelia. He's brash and arrogant, but good at heart.

    erik
    Mercenary
    A mercenary leader from Jehanna. He's better known as the Desert Tiger.

    Tethys
    Dancer
    A beautiful and charming dancer from Jehanna.

    Marisa
    Myrmidon
    An aloof sword fighter from Jehanna. She's known as the Crimson Flash.

    L'Arachel
    Troubadour
    A young woman from Rausten. She fights for justice and honour.

    Dozla
    Berserker
    A berserker from Rausten. He's a hearty man with a thirst for life.

    Saleh
    Sage
    A sage from the village Caer Pelyn. He's Ewan's solemn, but kind, teacher.

    Ewan
    Pupil
    A sage-in-training from Jehanna. He reveres his teacher, Saleh.

    Cormag
    Wyvern Rider
    A wyvern knight of Grado. A gentle man, but a ferocious warrior.

    Rennac
    Rogue
    A lazy, greedy, but exceptional fighter from the Republic of Carcino.

    Duessel
    Great Knight
    A courageous general in Grado's army. He's better known as Obsidian.

    Knoll
    Shaman
    One of Grado's royal mages. He knows the riddle of the Dark Stone.

    Myrrh
    Manakete
    A young, pure-hearted girl from the Darkling Woods. She tends to be shy.

    Syrene
    Falcon Knight
    The dutiful commander of the 3rd battalion of Frelia's pegasus knights.

    Caellach
    Hero
    An ambitious general in Grado's army. He's better known as Tiger's Eye.

    Riev
    Bishop
    A heretic and general in Grado's Army. He's also known as Blood Beryl.

    Ismaire
    Queen
    The queen of Jehanna. She is known as the Queen of White Dunes.

    Selena
    Mage Knight
    One of Grado's generals. She's also known by the name Fluorspar.

    Glen
    Wyvern Lord
    A general in Grado's army. He is better known as Sunstone.

    Hayden
    Ranger
    The king of Frelia. He's a good friend to both Eirika and Ephraim.
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    Valter
    Wyvern Knight
    A general in Grado's army. This cruel man is also known as Moonstone.

    Fado
    General
    The devoted king of Renais. His sole concern is for the people he leads.

    Lyon
    Necromancer
    The prince of Grado. The Dark Stone is slowly corrupting his body.

    Pablo
    Sage
    A member of Carcino's Council of Elders and an advocate of Grado.

    Klimt
    (Bishop)
    A member of Carcino's Council of Elders and an opponent of Grado.

    Dara
    (Druid)
    An old woman of Caer Pelyn. Over 100 years in age, she is a font of wisdom.

    Carlyle
    Swordmaster
    Former leader of Jehanna's army. He lost himself for love of his queen.

    Mansel
    Pontifex
    The pontifex of Rausten. He is a compassionate and pious ruler.

    Vigarde
    General
    The emperor of Grado, resurrected by the power of the Dark Stone.

    Morva
    Manakete
    Leader of the Manakete tribe. He was turned into a draco zombie by Lyon.



    FE 7: Blazing Sword



    Lyn
    Lord
    A young girl from the Lorca tribe. Stouthearted and kind.

    Sain
    Cavalier
    A knight in service to house Caelin. A bit of a scoundrel.

    Kent
    Cavalier
    A knight in service to house Caelin. Virtuous to a fault.

    Florina
    Pegasus Knight
    A pegasus knight earning her title. A friend of Lyn's.

    Wil
    Archer
    A youth from Pherae, in the Lycian League. Very social.

    Dorcas
    Fighter
    A man from a small village in Bern. Fights for his wife.

    Serra
    Cleric
    A cleric in service to House Ostia. Headstrong and bold.

    Erk
    Mage
    A young mage from Etruria. Charming, but uptight.

    Rath
    Nomad
    A young hired sword from the Kutolah tribe.

    Matthew
    Thief
    A cheery thief. His casual demeanor belies his skill.

    Nils
    Bard
    A bard possessing arcane powers. Brother of Ninian.

    Lucius
    Monk
    A travelling acolyte. Gentle and serene.

    Wallace
    Knight
    A retired knight of Caelin. Constantly testing himself.

    Eliwood
    Lord
    Marquess Pherae's young son. Just and honourable.

    Marcus
    Paladin
    A paladin serving House Pherae. A skilled veteran.

    Lowen
    Cavalier
    A knight in service to House Pherae. A fresh recruit.

    Rebecca
    Archer
    A youth from Pherae. Very helpful and bright.

    Bartre
    Fighter
    One of Eliwood's guardsmen. Duty is everything to him.

    Hector
    Lord
    Marquess Ostia's younger brother. Reckless, but loyal.

    Oswin
    Knight
    A knight in service to House Ostia. Hector's sworn man.

    Guy
    Myrmidon
    A youth from Sacae. Yearns to be a swordmaster.

    Merlinus
    Transporter
    A traveling merchant. Timid and easily frightened.

    Priscilla
    Troubadour
    A vassal in service to Count Caerleon of Etruria.

    Raven
    Mercenary
    A troubled mercenary with a grudge against House Ostia.

    Canas
    Shaman
    A scholar, and a novice student of ancient magics.

    Dart
    Pirate
    One of Fargus' corsairs. Foulmouthed, but kind.

    Fiora
    Pegasus Knight
    Commander of the 5th wing of Ilia's pegasus knights.

    Legault
    Thief
    A former Black Fang once known as Hurricane.

    Ninian
    Dancer
    A somber girl. Quiet, but filled with a solemn energy.

    Isadora
    Paladin
    A paladin in service to House Pherae. Modest and polite.
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    Heath
    Wyvern Rider
    A deserter from Bern's wyvern riders. Prideful.

    Hawkeye
    Berserker
    The protector of Nabata. A mysterious air surrounds him.

    Geitz
    Warrior
    The eldest son of a wealthy merchant. Finding himself.

    Pent
    Sage
    Marquess of Reglay. Sole student of Archsage Athos.

    Louise
    Sniper
    The wife of Marquess Reglay. A lethal beauty.

    Karel
    Swordmaster
    An eastern swordmaster. Seeking worthy opponents.


    Harken
    Hero
    The sole survivor of the Knights of Pherae.

    Nino
    Mage
    One of the Black Fang. True and innocent.

    Jaffar
    Assassin
    The Black Fang's Angel of Death. Once served Nergal.

    Vaida
    Wyvern Lord
    A deserter from Bern's wyvern riders. Brutal.

    Renault
    Bishop
    A cleric wandering Valor. Shrouded in mystery.

    Athos
    Archsage
    An archsage. One of the eight legendary heroes.

    Farina
    Pegasus Knight
    A member of the 3rd wing of Ilia's pegasus knights.

    Karla
    Swordmaster
    A dedicated swordfighter. Cool and detached.

    Eleanora
    Bishop
    The wife of Marquess Pherae. Eliwood's mother.

    Fargus
    Berserker
    The captain of a band of corsairs. A generous man.

    Leila
    Thief
    A spy in service to House Ostia.

    Kishuna
    Magic Seal
    A bringer of silence. His identity is unknown.

    Darin
    General
    Marquess Laus. Power-hungry and spiteful.

    Elbert
    Peer
    Marquess Pherae.

    Uther
    General
    Marquess Ostia, the head of the Lycian League.

    Lloyd
    Swordmaster
    The White Wolf of the Four Fangs. Brendan's first son.

    Linus
    Hero
    The Rabid Hound of the Four Fangs. Brendan's young son.

    Ursula
    Valkyrie
    The Blue Crow of the Four Fangs. Sworn to Sonia.

    Zephiel
    Prince
    The crown prince of Bern. Both clever and wise.

    Brendan
    Warrior
    The leader of the Black Fang.

    Sonia
    Sage
    Brendan's wife, and a devout servant of Nergal.

    Limstella
    Sage
    The strongest of the morphs Nergal created.

    Nergal
    Dark Druid
    An avaricious fiend who turns death into power.

    Bramimond
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    One of the eight legendary heroes. A cryptic figure.



    [/b]FE 6: Sword of Seals[/b]



    Roy
    Lord
    The next heir to Pherae. The protagonist of this story.

    Marcus
    Paladin
    A veteran knight serving Pherae. Roy's teacher in the martial arts.
    (also in Blazing Sword)
    Allen
    Cavalier
    A knight serving Pherae.

    Lance
    Cavalier
    A knight serving Pherae.

    Wolt
    Archer
    An archer serving Pherae. Roy's milk-brother.

    Bors
    Knight
    A knight serving Ostia.

    Merlinus
    Transporter
    A servant of Pherae in charge of the army's inventory.
    (also in Blazing Sword)

    Ellen
    Priest
    A young priest serving Guinevere.

    Dieck
    Mercenary
    An ex-pitfighter from Etruria. He is now a traveling mercenary.

    Wade
    Fighter
    A young man fighting alongside Dieck.
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    Lott
    Fighter
    A young man fighting alongside Dieck.

    Thany
    Pegasus Knight
    A pegasus knight-in-training traveling the world to hone her skills.

    Chad
    Thief
    A boy living in an orphanage on the Bern-Lycia border.

    Lugh
    Mage
    A young mage who grew up in an orphanage that Bern destroyed.

    Clarine
    Troubadour
    A young Etrurian lady. General Klein's younger sister.

    Rutger
    Myrmidon
    A young man seeking revenge on Bern.

    Saul
    Priest
    A priest of the Elimine church traveling around the world on a mission.

    Dorothy
    Archer
    A girl from Etruria serving the Elimine church.

    Sue
    Nomad
    The granddaughter of Dayan, the Silver Wolf.

    Zealot
    Paladin
    The lord of Edessa leading the Ilia mercenary knights.

    Treck
    Cavalier
    A mercenary knight from Ilia.

    Noah
    Cavalier
    A mercenary knight from Ilia.

    Astohl
    Thief
    A spy serving Ostia.

    Lilina
    Mage
    The princess of Ostia.

    Wendy
    Knight
    A knight serving Ostia. Bors' younger sister.

    Barth
    Knight
    A knight serving Ostia.

    Oujay
    Mercenary
    A mercenary hired into Ostia's service.

    Fir
    Myrmidon
    A girl traveling around to hone her sword skills.

    Shin
    Nomad
    A survivor of one of Sacaen clans decimated by Bern. One of the Silver Wolf's followers.

    Gonzales
    Brigand
    A brigand from the Western Isles.

    Geese
    Pirate
    A pirate from the Western Isles seeking to avenge his crew.

    Klein
    Sniper
    An Etrurian general leading one of the forces on the Western Isles.

    Tate
    Pegasus Knight
    The leader of the pegasus knight squad sent from Ilia to the Western Isles.

    Lalum
    Dancer
    A young dancer helping the rebel forces on the Western Isles.

    Echidna
    Hero
    The leader of the rebels on the Western Isles.

    Elphin
    Bard
    A mysterious bard serving the rebel forces on the Western Isles.

    Bartre
    Warrior
    A warrior searching for his long lost daughter.

    Ray
    Shaman
    A young shaman traveling to perfect the dark arts.

    Cath
    Thief
    A young thief who only steals from the rich.

    Miredy
    Wyvern Rider
    The leader of Guinevere's personal guards.

    Percival
    Paladin
    The Knight General of Etruria.

    Cecilia
    Valkyria
    The Mage General of Etruria.

    Sofiya
    Shaman
    A shaman from Nabata who can sense the future.

    Igrene
    Sniper
    A sniper known as the Guardian of Nabata.

    Garret
    Berserker
    A brigand roaming the Etrurian border.

    Fa
    Mamkute
    A little divine dragon girl from Nabata.

    Hugh
    Mage
    A mage hired into Etruria's service.

    Zeis
    Wyvern Rider
    A wyvern rider of Bern.

    Douglas
    General
    The Great General of Etruria.

    Niime
    Druid
    A mountain hermit devoting her life to historical and magical research.
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    Dayan
    Nomad Trooper
    The chief of the Kutolah clan and the greatest warrior of Sacae.

    Juno
    Falcon Knight
    A former squad leader of Ilia's pegasus knights. Zealot's wife.

    Yodel
    Bishop
    A bishop of the Elimine church aiding Roy on his quest.

    Karel
    Swordmaster
    The Sword Saint, whose name is known far and wide.
    (also in Blazing Sword)
    Narshen
    Wyvern Lord
    One of the Three Wyvern Generals of Bern. Led the attack on Lycia.

    Gale
    Wyvern Lord
    A wyvern rider of Bern.

    Hector
    General
    The leader of the League of Lycia and the Marquess of Ostia.
    (also in Blazing Sword)
    Brunya
    Sage
    One of the Three Wyvern Generals of Bern. Led the attack on Sacae.

    Eliwood
    Paladin
    The Marquess of Pherae, suffering from illness.
    (also in Blazing Sword)
    Murdoch
    General
    The leader of the Three Wyvern Generals of Bern. Led the attack on Ilia.

    Zephiel
    King
    The mighty King of Bern who possesses great power and skill.

    Guinevere
    Sage
    The princess of Bern.

    Jahn
    Mamkute
    A dragon keeping the Dragon Temple.

    Idoun
    Shaman
    The Dark Priestess who seeks to liberate the world under Zephiel's command.
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    -reserved-4 (thanks 40 img/post limit!)

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    Was this the Fire Emblem with Lyn in it? What type do you reckon she was? She and the knight who was always hitting on all the girls were my favourite characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanks Arthur View Post
    Was this the Fire Emblem with Lyn in it? What type do you reckon she was? She and the knight who was always hitting on all the girls were my favourite characters.
    Lyn was in 7. (I'll put the cast for that one up shortly).

    She's LSI.

    Not sure what Sain is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    The existence of such a database would change socionics as we know it and the public's reception to it.
    I mean you no offense, but more than likely not for the better. The source material is already kind of niche, and with some negative stigmas attached. I was going to say something else too, but my ability to concentrate right now is--ooh, animated gifs!

    EDIT

    What do you think about SEE for Sain? He's kind of a charmer, tends to neglect details (tutorial level where he doesn't even have his gear with him, lol), total joker; and some other stuff that I've forgotten about. Kent was his companion, yes? What about him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanks Arthur View Post
    I mean you no offense, but more than likely not for the better. The source material is already kind of niche, and with some negative stigmas attached. I was going to say something else too, but my ability to concentrate right now is--ooh, animated gifs!

    EDIT

    What do you think about SEE for Sain? He's kind of a charmer, tends to neglect details (tutorial level where he doesn't even have his gear with him, lol), total joker; and some other stuff that I've forgotten about. Kent was his companion, yes? What about him?
    That's what I was thinking... SEE sounds rather accurate.

    The negative stigmas will not endure.

    Oh, and I wouldn't try too hard to type Bramimond.
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    Eirika seems ESE.
    Seth seems IEI.
    Vanessa seems IEI as well.
    Colm is SEE.
    Ford is EIE.
    Kyle is EIE.
    Tana is IEE.
    Erik is LSE.
    Tethys is IEI.
    Marisa is LII.
    L'Rachel is ILE.
    Myrhh is probably ESE.
    Ismarie is IEI.
    Glen is LSE.
    Hayden is EIE.
    Mansel is probably IEE.
    Vigarde is EII.

    Lyn is LSI.
    Hector is SEI.
    Eliwood is EIE.
    Darin is SLE.
    Leila is IEI.
    Farina is IEE.
    Renault is LSE.
    Heath is EIE.
    Louise seems SEI.
    Ninian is EII.
    Canas is probably LII.
    Erk is LII.
    Serra is IEI.
    Sonia is LSE.
    Limstella is ILI ILE.

    I just realized that not all the characters are featured... most of the enemy characters aren't mentioned.
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    I'm going to include the FE 6 characters, too. And probably the FE: Mystery of the Emblem cast as well.

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    Mystery of the Emblem is too styled. Doing Thracia 776 instead.

    Got 120 characters on the list so far... adding another 70....

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    The best way to figure Marth's type is to look for tale tale signs of conflict which indicate functional values.

    He's definitely not LII, that's for sure.

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    Here's Lyn.



    Notice she's in control. No over emotionality, just a hint of such. She's trying to appear friendly, thus she projects a light smile.




    I'm not sure if she's LSI or SLI, but it's one of those two.

    Kent is S, I think.

    Lyn is difficult to read because she is very humble. She tries to rely on others' functions as much as her own. I think the reason for either, is that she has a tendency to take on people and things who are "bigger" than her. This because she can neither stand to let a wrong go unrighted nor permit that a righted wrong be committed again. Which means she has to put herself in the cross hairs of the entrenched status quo. Against such odds misjudgment is not acceptable, hence her instinct to rely on others' information processing. She simply cannot afford to be wrong.

    Now here's an interesting scene.



    At 7:14, Lyn allows the player to make a decision on her behalf. In her view, the decision is characterized by a conflict of the heart vs the head (T vs F). She prefers F. Maybe I'm missing something, and she's an EIE....
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    Here's a series of conversations between Lyn and Hector.


    She deeply feels that she has something to prove.

    Another:



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    Cod thinks ESI is a possibility.

    It's down to these five for Lyn:
    - ESI
    - SEE
    - EIE
    - SLI
    - LSI

    - She's not LII because she's not analytical enough.
    - She's not LIE because she's quite aimless in how she goes about things. (and not ILI for the same reason)
    - She's not ILE because she's not inquisitive enough.
    - She's not ESE because she's doesn't have as much self awareness as an ESE has.
    - She could be EIE because she's emotional, and puts a premium on strength.
    - She could be LSI because she wants to be strong (??)
    - She's not EII because she's pretty ignorant of motivations.
    - She's not IEE because she's initially dismissive of others' abilities.
    - She could be SLI because she appreciates the usefulness of others once abilities are pointed out to her.
    - She's not's SEI because she doesn't seem to care.
    - She could be SEE because she is somewhat reactive (?)
    - She could be ESI because she has strong convictions (?)
    - She's not SLE because she doesn't seem that focused on figuring out how to win. Whether she wins or not, she leaves mostly to a sense of destiny/fate.
    - She's not IEI because she's not empathic enough.

    I'm actually leaning towards LSI-Se, simply because she seems to be trying not to discover strength (as an EIE would), but to create it, as a dominant LSI would try to do.

    Addendum: the reason she's not SLI is because she takes a very happenstance attitude towards teamwork. SLI eagerly assembles teams and organizations to keep things humming along and, especially, to move towards their all important goals. SLIs are willing to compel people to join their team, often by holding something over their heads.... LSIs look at cooperation as a private decision made by individuals on their own terms, to be initiated and ended at their will. (the free enterprise system is essentially an LSI philosophy).
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    Is the reason for us being able to VI fiction that the mind's eye of the authors and artists carry socionics within it? Or are we not taking the facial structure in account when we VI fiction?
    EDIT: Never mind I realized that people base such characters on IRL people most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    Is the reason for us being able to VI fiction that the mind's eye of the authors and artists carry socionics within it? Or are we not taking the facial structure in account when we VI fiction?
    EDIT: Never mind I realized that people base such characters on IRL people most of the time.
    It's a mix of both. As a strong Ne type, I can visualize characters I've never seen before in a flash. However I think my subconscious creates that from a hidden knowledge base that it creates in the background of my mind. The subconscious definitely pics up something because I can stylize these characters in any art style I've been exposed to.

    Sometimes characters are based on real life people, yes. If you were going for authenticity, this is how you would do it.

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    Next up is the primary protagonist, Eliwood.



    In the game you can tell he's ENF easily enough; the j/p matter is sorta ambiguous. But in the above pic, he is very obviously IEE, as you can tell from his "goofy" jaw, a defining physiognomic trait of IEE-Ne.

    I don't think I understand the following scene completely. Anyone care to interpret it?





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    Eliwood reminds me a lot of Rick in his mannerisms. This also influences my IEE typing of him. (IEE Ds tend to be very formal folk)

    Eliwood is definitely
    - more N than S (notice the untrained eyes)
    - more F than T (springing into action against the dragon without a second thought; having to have the situation pointed out to him by Nergal (a T))
    - E (he's never seen alone throughout the entire game, nor do I recall him developing an independent conclusion of his own throughout the entire script)
    - more P than J (he mostly echoes others' recommendations, without raising points of his own)

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