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    Default Proposition: Gamma Se = rights

    The right to organize; the right to speak; the right to freedom; the right to rights; the right to opportunity; the right to love; the right to information; the right to ideas; the right to enjoy oneself and seek happiness; the right to equal treatment. ESFp is the creator of rights, and their chief proponent.

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    Fair idea, but why not Beta Se?

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    Because beta Se is competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    Because beta Se is competition.
    Can it not be both?

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    I thought all Se implied competition?

    Can't Se paired with Fi make rights based on moral considerations as well as Se paired with Ti make rights based on a system of justice? If so, wouldn't the Ti users in the alpha quadra have a say as well as the Fi users in the delta quadra?

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    Thinking that gamma Se isn't competition is somewhat fairy-taleish. Some gamma SF can be rather cut-throat. I've had friendships broken down, with ESIs, because we practiced the same sport and I was better than them and they were envious, thus started to use "tricks" during competitions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Thinking that gamma Se isn't competition is somewhat fairy-taleish. Some gamma SF can be rather cut-throat. I've had friendships broken down, with ESIs, because we practiced the same sport and I was better than them and they were envious, thus started to use "tricks" during competitions.
    Well that's my professional opinion. If you don't like it, call it Se(F) instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    Can it not be both?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    Well that's my professional opinion. If you don't like it, call it Se(F) instead.
    Professional???
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Professional???
    Well I'll have my bachelors in a year and a half. Not like I'm gonna learn anything about socionics in a master's program. Bottom line is, I take responsibility for that particular opinion. It's not just a proposition.

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