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    Default Portraits by E. Filatova

    these are nothing new but i'm posting them because i don't think they've been posted here before and they should probably be here, for anyone who hasn't seen them who may be interested, and for discussion's sake if anyone has any comments about them.

    these particular portraits are from Filatova's book "Personality in the Mirror of Socionics" (2001)

    On Filatova's portraits - from Wikisocion:
    It should be noted that Ekaterina Filatova did not herself use visual identification ("V.I.") to diagnose the types of the people in her books. She simply began to notice similarities between people of the same type and tried to capture them through photos.
    Who are the people in the pictures? from Socioniko.net:
    Visitors of our site often ask us whether the people whose pictures are placed together with type descriptions have been “typed” correctly. OK, we answer.

    These portraits have been photographed by Yekaterina S. Filatova, a socionist from St. Petersburg, since 1991. She gave us her permission to place some of her pictures at our site. She did not use any “visual identification” methods – she is rather much critical towards such methods, and never wants to “type” pictures which some people send to her. On the contrary, she first determined the type of the person (by interviewing, in course of long contacts, etc.) and only then, when this person expressed his/her agreement with the type description and his/her permission for being photographed, she made his/her pictures in several standard perspectives (which allowed comparing pictures of different people with each other). In addition, she often received feedback from these people and kept contacts with them, since many of them were her former students, colleague professors or even practicing socionists. If anybody later expressed his doubts about the correctness of his/her type identification, then his/her pictures were removed from the collection to a separate folder marked “dubious” for future verification. The total number of portraits made by her exceeds several thousands, and the most reliable of them have been published in her books.

    Later she compared her pictures, and discovered so-called “quasi-twin” series within each of the 16 types. However, they were similar not as much by facial traits (form of nose, lips etc.) as by their characteristic mimicry (facial expressions). For this reason, we strongly disagree with the approach of Sergei Ganin, the owner of ₪₪₪ Socionics - The New Psychology ₪₪₪, who determines types of celebrities using the method 'he/she facially reminds me a person whose type is XYZ". As a part of psychology, socionics should use scientific approach of studying people characters, instead of physiognomics and other pseudo-sciences.


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    SEI \ ISFp (Si-Fe)

    Socionics ISFp SEI Dumas Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 1.png
    Socionics ISFp SEI Dumas Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 2.png


    ILE \ ENTp (Ne-Ti)

    Screenshot 2017-09-14 at 1.07.22 PM.png
    Socionics ENTp ILE Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 2.png


    ESE \ ESFj (Fe-Si)

    Socionics ESFj ESE Hugo Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 1.png
    Socionics ESFj ESE Hugo Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 2.png


    LII \ INTj (Ti-Ne)

    Socionics INTj LII Robespierre Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type .png
    Socionics INTj LII Robespierre Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type .png


    LSI \ ISTj (Ti-Se)

    Socionics ISTj LSI Maxim Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 1.png
    Socionics ISTj LSI Maxim Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 2.png


    EIE \ ENFj (Fe-Ni)

    Socionics ENFj EIE Hamlet Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 1.png
    Socionics ENFj EIE Hamlet Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 2.png


    IEI \ INFp (Ni-Fe)

    Socionics INFp IEI Yesenin Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 1.png
    Socionics INFp IEI Yesenin Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 2.png


    SLE \ ESTp (Se-Ti)

    Socionics ESTp SLE Zhukov Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 1.png
    Socionics ESTp SLE Zhukov Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 2.png
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    SEE \ ESFp (Se-Fi)

    Socionics ESFp SEE Caesar Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 1.png
    Socionics ESFp SEE Caesar Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 2.png


    ILI \ INTp (Ni-Te)

    Socionics INTp ILI Balzac Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 1.png
    Socionics INTp ILI Balzac Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 2.png


    LIE \ ENTj (Te-Ni)

    Socionics ENTj LIE Jack London Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type .png
    Socionics ENTj LIE Jack London Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type .png


    ESI \ ISFj (Fi-Se)

    Socionics ISFj ESI Dreiser Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 1.png
    Socionics ISFj ESI Dreiser Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 2.png


    LSE \ ESTj (Te-Si)

    Socionics ESTj LSE Stierlitz Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI.png
    Socionics ESTj LSE Stierlitz Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI.png


    EII \ INFj (Fi-Ne)

    Socionics INFj EII Dostoyevsky Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type .png
    Socionics INFj EII Dostoyevsky Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type .png


    IEE \ ENFp (Ne-Fi)

    Socionics ENFp IEE Huxley Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 2.png
    Socionics ENFp IEE Huxley Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 1.png


    SLI \ ISTp (Si-Te)

    Socionics ISTp SLI Gabin Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 2.png
    Socionics ISTp SLI Gabin Filatova portraits photos photographs visual identification type VI 1.png
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    LOL at some of the ILI photos:

    They don't call ILI the critic for nothing:




    A female niffy!

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    These have always proved useful, along with the excellent descriptions at socioniko.


    My Russian Twin


    This guy looks fuggin hilarious next to the other SLE's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    These have always proved useful, along with the excellent descriptions at socioniko.


    My Russian Twin

    Yeah the similarity with the expressions of those LIIs and my own facial expressions is uncanny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    SEI

    Lol, stoner SEIs ftw.

    EDIT



    Also, lol, if there was ever a Ne moment caught on camera, this is it. I think I'm in love

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    God, there are a lot of unattractive Russians.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

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    lol yeah
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    Among those, I am probably most similar to this LSE woman (as far as facial expression / structure goes):

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    They dont look like typical russian people, they are more like crazy 70's university type of people who you never see on the streets, I mean God, just look at the glasses of those people .
    Looking for an Archnemesis. Willing applicants contact via PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    here's me..
    "Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssmall View Post
    They dont look like typical russian people, they are more like crazy 70's university type of people who you never see on the streets, I mean God, just look at the glasses of those people .
    the type who turn to socionics :-p
    "Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."

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    Wow, it's my brother:
    It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarrelled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now.

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    The SLIs look like the happiest people in the world.

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    The SLEs are going to eat me as soon as a fall asleep tonight. I just know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April View Post
    The SLEs are going to eat me as soon as a fall asleep tonight. I just know it.
    There can be only one.

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    I use these pics a lot as reference (a couple of years now), over time I have found them extremely accurate to the point i can now VI people in rl surprisingly accurately very quickly.
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    Wow, this guy reminds me of my SEI dad when he was much younger:


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    Haha, as much as I hate to say it, this guy reminds me of me:


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    This SEE guy looks ready to con you out of money or something. Manipulator to the nth degree.
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    I think he looks a bit like the young Elvis Presley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April View Post
    The SLEs are going to eat me as soon as a fall asleep tonight. I just know it.
    They do look undead don't they. Those are the ugliest men I've ever seen. I wonder what the women look like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    The SLIs look like the happiest people in the world.
    They smile ~*~with their eyes~*~

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    Tyra is SEI

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    Those ESIs look like they're ready to slit somebody's throat!



    "My name is Boris, and I vant to keel you."

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    On the other hand, I had a SEI math tutor who I got along with really well and she looked 95% exactly like her:



    She was really sweet and kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    God, there are a lot of unattractive Russians.
    Russians are generally very attractive, at least the women. I know, cuz we have a lot of them in my country.

    But I don't think it's about nationality. They are simply ordinary pictures, taken without styling. And in the 70ties.

    But I like them.

    I agree with warrior-librarian on the ILI guy. He deserves to be called a critic.

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    I like this SEI man. He radiates good feelings and funny jokes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    She looks like Martha Kearney, a British TV person.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    He looks like the actor Herbert Lom, who played Inspector Clouseau's much aggrieved boss in the Pink Panther films. There's also something a little Patrick McGoohan about him as well.

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    SEI


    Frodo

    ILE


    umm...Daniel Dennett



    some relative of Sergei's possibly
    LII


    Tom Baker and Jonathan Miller maybe?

    ESE


    Melvyn Bragg



    Alex Kapranos

    LSI



    Tom Petty

    EIE



    a Prince of Denmark



    Tessa Jowell



    Theresa May (NOT Teresa May)



    Princess Diana



    Moira Stuart

    IEI



    Kate Bush



    Sir Mark Elder

    ESI



    Nora Batty

    LIE



    Karl Popper...Voltaire?

    EII



    Vincent

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    ahhaha Sub, those are great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    And in the 70ties.
    The pics were taken somewhere around A.D. 1992, afaik.

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    I love that you posted these, Glam. I keep referring to them! thanks.

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    you're welcome i actually think they're pretty reliable, as some other people have commented. (even though they are sort of dated)

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    you're welcome i actually think they're pretty reliable, as some other people have commented.
    I agree.

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    What would you say are the definining charicteristics of the SEE's and SLEs expression? The SLE's kinda look like they are staring and the SEE's may be too but are friendlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    SEE
    She looks like Lady Gaga



    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

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    mods, can we sticky this?

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    might as well
    EII-Ne
    5w4 or 1w9 Sp/So

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    That is me!



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