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    Quote Originally Posted by The Greeter View Post
    I assure you, I do this in my life outside the forum and expend most of my energy there.
    Do you think that there aren't worthy friends and connections to be had among forum members as well?

    They are people just like the ones in real life.

    I'm trying to understand your type of Fi; my type is far reaching and apparently private in other ways, mainly sexually. If I was financially well off, I suppose I should have to take measures to be less so proactive, then. Gulenko, who I do NOT trust, isn't clear that this difference is apparently about subtypes. If his descriptions are somewhat accurate then I am Fi subtype, because unlike you and Minde, I am trusting and even thought I do get Fi feelings and loose the handle, I am always able to reestablish bonds and return to kindness.


    So, if this is true, which I believe it's not, then which subtype are you?


    Ethical subtype (The Psychologist)
    Victor Gulenko
    Is sincerely religious or adheres to any ethical system. Unobtrusive and restrained. Ascetic. Strict towards themselves and others when it comes to disturbances of moral standards. Not likely to take the initiative. Little interested in the fact that they’re not connected with their persuasions. In their work they are sluggish and scrupulous. With them it is possible to have a talk, to pour out one’s soul, to receive simple, but efficient advice. Outward appearance: self-absorbed, ascetic.

    Meged/Ovcharov
    The ethical subtype appears polite and tactful, constrained and passionless. They tend to keep some distance in dialogue and may seem strict and/or cold. Gradually, however, this impression dissipates as during dialogue their sincere sympathy and desire to assist is revealed. Serious, quiet and benevolent people, are usually scrupulous and tactful, they lack the ability to joke or flatter. In times of dispute with others they prefer to leave silently rather than resort to diplomacy. Are very hardworking, laborious, patient and assiduous. Will not stand for violence and injustice. Consecutive and firm in their principles. Ably creates comfort by decorating the home with hand-made articles – work well with their hands. Countenance is guarded – they seldom smile.. Pays attention towards maintaining a thin figure; dresses modestly with taste and elegance. Their movements are smooth yet firm, their gait quick yet restrained. They sit straight and seldom gesticulate while in conversation.

    Sexual descriptions
    They are trusting, devoted idealists. Internally emotional but outwardly they try to control their feelings. They’re reliable and disposed to stable relations. Kind and soft yet exacting and obstinate in their relations; do not forgive betrayal. Aim for aesthetics, harmony and perfection in sex. Wounded, they greatly depend on the emotional state of whom they love. Require proofs of love; need someone initiative taking, optimistic and confident in their self and feelings. In sexual life are slaves of their partner’s demands.

    Intuitive subtype (The Teacher)
    Victor Gulenko
    A good eye for people; immediately sees who does or doesn’t feel drawn to them by the looks in people’s eyes / have similar views to them. They love to be in a close circle of friends and adherents, and to discuss with them the novelties of literature, skill, humanities. Frequently behave unsure of themselves; They are scattered. The aim is humanitarian activity, but they can work in the service industry. Works well both in medicine and in pedagogy. Knows how to reconcile those disputing, to smooth out sharp situations. Knows how to create a pleasant situation, how to create a comfortable home. Dresses with the taste, frequently follows fashion.

    Meged/Ovcharov
    The intuitive subtype is emotional and strict, yet shows kindliness, goodwill and affability toward those with whom they sympathize and hold in good esteem. Sometimes like to joke, they try not to speak with people about unpleasant things but will at times feel forced to state their disagreement/indignation or risk feelings of regret at a later time. Serious and scrupulous, approach others when they feel needed/useful. Internally nervous, sensitive and vulnerable despite their attempts to hide it. Have good figurative and creative abilities and are able to interpret various symbols, dreams and mystical images. Like to use their knowledge to advise and edify, but only in a narrow social circle; prefer to maintain an air of modesty and subtlety. Dresses simply, adhering to classical style, often conservatively; not prone to notable gesticulating while conversing. Speech is emotional yet restrained, their voice is often instructive. Often has a disproportionate figure, especially if prone to corpulence; meanwhile gait may be plain, clumsy and/or classy (though restrained).

    Sexual behavior
    Restrained, irresolute, and inclined to self-doubts: especially in decision making; act unsure of their feelings. Are utterly reliable in regards to debts and honor. Erotically are yielding and shy, await the initiative of another; unpredictable and predisposed to fantasies, inclined to improve sexual relations. Reserved, they speak of their concerns only with someone close to them. Needs a partner who is economic, practical, precise, concrete in words and able to interpret the intentions of others. Honest, they desire a partner with a strong nature that commands a feeling of debt.
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    Please eliminate the inconsistencies, for me, if you will and tell me which subtype of Gulenko's or parts of those particular desciption apply to you.

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    Apologies, but I'm not here discuss to my type.

    Yes, I acknowledge the possibilities you mention, for a long time actually, but I don't necessarily act on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Greeter View Post
    Apologies, but I'm not here discuss to my type.

    Yes, I acknowledge the possibilities you mention, for a long time actually, but I don't necessarily act on them.
    I'm not asking you to discuss your type; I'm asking you to tell me if Gulenko's descriptions of subtypes apply to you? My purpose in this is to try to see if the possibilities that I'm thinking of with regards to you possibly being on one "spectrum" of the type is due to certain development of one function over another.

    Perhaps, to compare, my Fi is far better developed then yours and as a compinsation or reaction/balance, my Se is far less developed then your own.

    I had my INTj friend do the math of the possibility of types based on development of functions and he gave me a chart of results and I just want to compare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I'm not asking you to discuss your type; I'm asking you to tell me if Gulenko's descriptions of subtypes apply to you? My purpose in this is to try to see if the possibilities that I'm thinking of with regards to you possibly being on one "spectrum" of the type is due to certain development of one function over another.

    Perhaps, to compare, my Fi is far better developed then yours and as a compinsation or reaction/balance, my Se is far less developed then your own.

    I had my INTj friend do the math of the possibility of types based on development of functions and he gave me a chart of results and I just want to compare.
    Personally, I think your Se might be stronger than mine because you take more action than I do, where as I most of the time sit back and muse with reality. If there is any indication of it, and I am only comparing you to me because you initiated the process, you needn't look any further then the amount of posts you've accumulated in less than seven months than I have in over five years.

    Because of this, I think your Fi may appear to be "stronger" because you are more likely to act on the possibility that you see than I. If you only consider the amount of people you engage with as an indication of Fi, I'm afraid that you're not really dealing with Fi anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Greeter View Post
    Personally, I think your Se might be stronger than mine because you take more action than I do, where as I most of the time sit back and muse with reality. If there is any indication of it, and I am only comparing you to me because you initiated the process, you needn't look any further then the amount of posts you've accumulated in less than seven months than I have in over five years.

    Because of this, I think your Fi may appear to be "stronger" because you are more likely to act on the possibility that you see than I. If you only consider the amount of people you engage with as an indication of Fi, I'm afraid that you're not really dealing with Fi anymore.
    Se does not equal action. Se means what information is processed when someone observes their environment; Se will look and admire objects and I will look and admire upon the internal feelings of people, as a primary mode of information processing. Amount of my posts has to do with my love for socionics and writing, which most INFj's are really good at naturally anyway, so that's a weak argument for Se. There are some great examples in the history of INFj's of really active people like Van Gogh, Dostevsky (who wrote a lot), and other INFj journalists and writers as well.

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    You're right in that Se itself does not equal action, but the likelihood of taking action is greater in Se types than Ne types. Indeed it is possible for both to take action to the same degree, but I'm speaking in probabilities not possibilities.

    And, as for your explanation, fair enough. Even I am fairly active in my non-forum life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Greeter View Post
    You're right in that Se itself does not equal action, but the likelihood of taking action is greater in Se types than Ne types. Indeed it is possible for both to take action to the same degree, but I'm speaking in probabilities not possibilities.

    And, as for your explanation, fair enough. Even I am fairly active in my non-forum life.
    Again that statement is not true; Ne types are just as capable of action as Se; Se is impulsive/spontaneous action; Ne is PLANED (Ne related) action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Again that statement is not true; Ne types are just as capable of action as Se; Se is impulsive/spontaneous action; Ne is PLANED (Ne related) action.
    Again, I'm speaking of probability rather than capacity. Your claim supports my assertion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Greeter View Post
    Again, I'm speaking of probability rather than capacity. Your claim supports my assertion.
    The assertion that I take more action on the forum because I have a strong Se is an invalid argument. That's the assertion that I'm making.

    The assertion that I can't see certain things, or that I don't see when I misspell things, or that I run into objects, or that I get confused and post something where it doesn't belong, or that I get vertigo/dizzy spells when people post things with dynamic objects when I concentrate on things of static nature, all point to Se POLR.
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