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    Knowing the exact amount of force or pressure required to get something done - is this more an Se or Si thing?
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    Example?
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    Well like knowing the amount of energy required to slam a door. Some people seem to over-slam doors. And others seem to under-slam them. So they have to go back sheepishly and try again.
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    Every door is different and requires a different amount of energy to be properly slammed.

    I learn those things through experience. (Like most normal people.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    Every door is different and requires a different amount of energy to be properly slammed.

    I learn those things through experience. (Like most normal people.)

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    Hola my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    Every door is different and requires a different amount of energy to be properly slammed.


    It occurred to me though that you could tell Things about people from the way they interact with objects. Like I was with this guy and I kicked a door open with my foot and nudged it the rest of the way with my elbow, and he commented that he liked the way I opened the door (erm lol). But he didn't seem to make the connection that I had obviously been there before.. so it occurred to me that if a person was aware enough about those kinds of things, they could gather information about people that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicon View Post
    Knowing the exact amount of force or pressure required to get something done - is this more an Se or Si thing?
    According to socionics.com, it would be Se. In the INTj uncovered he explains part of Se PoLR as overestimating the amount of force needed for something. I would guess that if you see someone slam a door accidentally or the like, they should be an intuitive type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    According to socionics.com, it would be Se. In the INTj uncovered he explains part of Se PoLR as overestimating the amount of force needed for something. I would guess that if you see someone slam a door accidentally or the like, they should be an intuitive type.
    I see nothing to disagree with here. Though LIIs generally have two approaches to pressure: one that doesn't use enough, and another that uses too much.

    Generally they don't use enough, and have to be desperate to really pour it on.

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    I think it's more of an Se thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    Every door is different and requires a different amount of energy to be properly slammed.

    I learn those things through experience. (Like most normal people.)
    I don't think it's only about experience. You look at the door and you see that it is thick or thin, heavy or light, if it is likely to move easily or not etc. You can estimate, or rather sense the momentum needed.

    I enjoy closing doors by applying just enough pressure so that I can hear the "click" when it locks. No more no less.

    Another enjoyable way of closing doors is when you slam a door but because of the air pressure getting high just before the door is about to hit the frame it suddenly stops and there is no slam. It just closes normally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    Every door is different and requires a different amount of energy to be properly slammed.

    I learn those things through experience. (Like most normal people.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    I don't think it's only about experience. You look at the door and you see that it is thick or thin, heavy or light, if it is likely to move easily or not etc. You can estimate, or rather sense the momentum needed.
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    Sure. I play around with estimations and precision all the time.
    This is Si

    I have Si activation, so I think the same way; Se is observation of the object in it's static moment; Se types do, by no fault of their own touch something by more strength then Si types.

    Si types can intentionally, when they want to, touch things with force. Si types make the best make-up artists and surgeons IMO because of this controlled touch; sort of a mixture of how they feel when they touch something and their perception of how the object reacts to their touch, makes them more sensitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    I don't think it's only about experience. You look at the door and you see that it is thick or thin, heavy or light, if it is likely to move easily or not etc. You can estimate, or rather sense the momentum needed.

    I enjoy closing doors by applying just enough pressure so that I can hear the "click" when it locks. No more no less.

    Another enjoyable way of closing doors is when you slam a door but because of the air pressure getting high just before the door is about to hit the frame it suddenly stops and there is no slam. It just closes normally.
    Sure. I play with estimations and precision all the time.
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    I think Se and Si would both play a role. Se to estimate the door's size and weight, etc., and Si to estimate how the door will interact with its environment (and how one's hand will interact with the door). So any Sensor type will be good at slamming doors, although perhaps those with Producing Sensing (i.e., those with Sensing in both Creative and Demonstrative functions) would be best at it?

    [Edit: Of course, I think it would be most likely that an Se type would slam a door, as a demonstration of force.]
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