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    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...change&pl=true

    My roommate told me about this video. I suppose 9/11 was really a government plot or something to that effect...anyway, check it out.
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    If I watch it will you put out?
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    terrorist attacks = Wooo hoooooooo!!! An excuse to send troops to the middle east!
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    Is the narrator an INTj?
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    This is why I pay no attention to the media. It's all propaganda. All of it. I don't try to argue my point on this matter. People believe what they want to believe, and that is the bottom line.
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    This is best conspiracy video I've seen so far But...the fog of war...who knows what really happened and how much does it matter in the end? The world is in a big mess anyways and this incident was just a tip of the ice berg.

    Personal opinion...I find it hard to believe this was completely organized by US government and officials. That would take a BIG conspiracy and I guess there would be easier ways to make a case for war if wanted to. Unless of course you start believing into some kind of mystical Star Wars scenario. And I believe a video with an opposite viewpoint could be produced that would make you feel exactly the opposite.

    Anyways, I agree there is a lot of cover up so this whole thing stinks. First feeling I get is something else happened than what was claimed to happen. But instead of claiming the US government did it, I would say it was a cover up of a totally incompetent job or something. Maybe the Pentagon was shot by a cruise missile as they claim..but maybe it was the "bad guys" who managed to do that and government wanted to cover that up. Or maybe they knew about the plot but just let it happen in order to make a case for war...or maybe...who knows what happened...I'm still claiming incompetence but can't be sure...

    But if US government and the "terrorists"/Osama work more or less in cooperation (or if "terrorists" are just used as puppets) like suggested then the mess is so deep that it is almost useless to start thinking about it... Maybe it all started in Pearl Harbor that of course was not a sneak attack by Japanese but was a result of a conspiracy who wanted the whole world destroyed...they didn't manage to destroy the world the last time so now they are trying again...or maybe the civil war was not about slaves but was a preparation for the world dominance 150 years later. I mean you can't dominate the world unless you create a united superpower with moral right to do so...or maybe...

    Ok back to reality...I haven't been able to understand how the buildings collapsed...it really seemed like they were detonated as in when you demolish a building (as explained in the video). Totally demolishing a steel giant in 10 seconds is not an easy task to do even for experienced demolition professionals. And to do it with a commercial airliner...and twice in a row...now that should end up in Guinness book of records. And of course the disappearance/vaporization of the Pentagon airplane is kind of wierd too but I haven't read about that incident enough to know what is the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Is the narrator an INTj?
    Lol, I agree this is Ti at work. Taking the some facts in and dropping out everything else. Building a wholistic logical model with the selected facts. The model itself is flawless but the problem is only the facts supporting the theory are included. INTj or ISTj I'm sure Pretty good work anyways. A good model of the reality or completely detached? As you said everyone believes what they want to believe

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    this is what I think happened...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    this is what I think happened...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    this is what I think happened...
    LMFAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    this is what I think happened...
    This is pretty funny

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    No one gets the Mario joke?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraus
    No one gets the Mario joke?
    I didn't get any joke, sorry Yours looked more like a realistic description of how it really happened, hehe I didn't even notice it is Mario

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    A huge government conspiracy is proposed and everyone turns it into a joke. I would have expected differently from high-minded intellectual liberalists...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    A huge government conspiracy is proposed and everyone turns it into a joke. I would have expected differently from high-minded intellectual liberalists...
    Hey I tried to be serious about it! And I'm not sure if I want to discuss this stuff publicly If the conspiracy really is that big then everything we write here is probably recorded and analysed Echelon you know


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    A huge government conspiracy is proposed and everyone turns it into a joke. I would have expected differently from high-minded intellectual liberalists...
    I don't think it's a joke. The information provided was very engaging, and logically sound. I would like to confirm it by seeing any counter points. As far as I am concerned, there is a large probability that our government did this to us. I just want to make the case airtight by considering the other side.
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    BTW, will you put out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraus
    LMAO!!!!!

    thats some funny crap there Krauser!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...change&pl=true

    My roommate told me about this video. I suppose 9/11 was really a government plot or something to that effect...anyway, check it out.

    Well tell him that I said that it was very good. Ask him if he knows about the upcoming inflation crack-up boom that is about to happen.

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    I haven't watched it, but I'd like to ask this - -

    Does it suggest that the 1993 attempt to blow the WTC from underneath was also a conspiracy -- or the successful destruction of the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998?

    Because if they were also a conspiracy, then it's a very long-running one, also during the Clinton administration.

    And if they weren't -- just consider that the same people, or the same kind of people, who did that would also be ready to do something like 9/11.

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    Thanks for posting this, Cone.
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    part of the problem is that the 9/11 conspiracy movement is fighting against dissonence X 300 million. No matter how logical the proof and evidence is the majority of American's will never believe it. Not because they're too dumb to grasp it but because it assaults their beliefs which are now 4 years old.

    There is much out there on the internets contradicting the official 9/11 story. The version which I think has the most credence logically is that it was carried out by Mossad. Their openly stated mission statement is "war by deception". I don't think that any US agency would actually plan and carry out an attack against our own country. However Mossad would, and has it's tentacles reaching deep enough into the United States to make it happen. Mossad also has been caught posing as Jihadists in order to frame Arab's before. I don't have the energy to post footnotes to back this up but if you reseach it online you'll be able to see what I'm talking about.

    Anyways that's my 2 cents...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    part of the problem is that the 9/11 conspiracy movement is fighting against dissonence X 300 million. No matter how logical the proof and evidence is the majority of American's will never believe it. Not because they're too dumb to grasp it but because it assaults their beliefs which are now 4 years old.

    There is much out there on the internets contradicting the official 9/11 story. The version which I think has the most credence logically is that it was carried out by Mossad. Their openly stated mission statement is "war by deception". I don't think that any US agency would actually plan and carry out an attack against our own country. However Mossad would, and has it's tentacles reaching deep enough into the United States to make it happen. Mossad also has been caught posing as Jihadists in order to frame Arab's before. I don't have the energy to post footnotes to back this up but if you reseach it online you'll be able to see what I'm talking about.

    Anyways that's my 2 cents...
    In the end people always blame the Jews... I have heard these claims before but would a dog bite the hand that feeds it?

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    I'm not blaming the Jews, just Isreal's intelligence organization. Mossad's techniques of using false flags to draw others into conflicts or to manipulate perceptions of their neighbors is documented. Honestly the acusation is only directed towards Mossad and Isreali extreamist groups... not the Jewish people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    I'm not blaming the Jews, just Isreal's intelligence organization. Mossad's techniques of using false flags to draw others into conflicts or to manipulate perceptions of their neighbors is documented. Honestly the acusation is only directed towards Mossad and other Isreali extreamist groups... not the Jewish people.
    I'm not saying it is impossible It would just be a pretty big jackpot for the terrorists if people started accusing Mossad/Israel. I mean if you bomb the towers and people start blaming your worst enemies can it get any better?

    Because truth is so hidden I'm just trying to be careful with my accusations I still think the way Expat put it makes most sense and is the only view I would use to make decisions IRL.

    But there are lots of weird things related to this (like the movements in world money market before the strike which I have heard about before). So these videos are important in the way they raise discussion. It is just that no one knows who the author of the video really is and how much of the facts in the video actually hold water and what was left out etc. I recommend everyone to see this video but be careful about not making it an article of faith (hmm...is that good english?).

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    As to the Dog biting the hand that feeds it...

    Mossod made every attempt to warn the US about the impending attacks on 9/11. I think that if they were behind it they wanted the US to stop it before it happened and thereby catch those who were carrying out the attacks (Arabs). However incompetance on the part of the American intelligence community (or the whole new Pearl Harbor thing) allowed the attacks to proceed.

    Whatever happened it was more than 100 years ago now so who can say what really happened? It's an old Meme that needs to die so we can all get on with our lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    I'm not saying it is impossible It would just be a pretty big jackpot for the terrorists if people started accusing Mossad/Israel. I mean if you bomb the towers and people start blaming your worst enemies can it get any better?
    the same can be said switching Isreal for Arabs... Given that Isreal has much better intelligence and covert organizations than Iraq/Afganistan which would seem more likely?

    edit: also why would terrorists want the US to be more involved in the middle east? which is the only logical response to the attacks, I'm sure they would have seen that. Isreal on the other hand...

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    Screw it... I blame Canada! They're jealous of our progressive marijuana laws and unsocialised medicine....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    edit: also why would terrorists want the US to be more involved in the middle east? which is the only logical response to the attacks, I'm sure they would have seen that. Isreal on the other hand...
    Terrorists want a chaos and revolution in every country starting from "corrupted" middle east governments. And the current situation in middle east is pretty much playing to their advantage. Currently time is on their side and west is shaking. If there was a revolution in every major oil producing middle east country and jihadists would seize the power that would be pretty serious for the west. US status as a superpower is threatened if they can't take control of Iraq and even Afghanistan is getting more restless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Screw it... I blame Canada! They're jealous of our progressive marijuana laws and unsocialised medicine....
    Lol, I can accept that

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    I used to buy into those kinda videos...like 'dude, i never thought of this before', but the concept seems absolutely silly now. It's far slanted left just as much as the White House slants everything right. I heard a study they did where liberals would literally shut their minds off when they heard something they recognized as a right wing mindset, and vice versa.

    Anyway, isn't there a Popular Science debunker that shows how slanted and incorrect the facts and logic all of these 9/11 conspiracy theories were based from are?
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    Yes I admit I should have kept my word and not participate on a public online discussion concerning this subject Impossible to find the truth here anyways It is just...kinda fun

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    bunch of damn Canadians... all of you!

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    conspiracy anything is an utter waste of time. The only thing you gain from thinking about it is speculation and more speculation. I think a much better option would to be immersed in the world around you. There is already so much provable and useful knowledge out there that spending your time on conspiracy theories will only hinder your growth as a human being. lol sorry last sentence is funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaiwan
    Anyway, isn't there a Popular Science debunker that shows how slanted and incorrect the facts and logic all of these 9/11 conspiracy theories were based from are?
    You should ban Hugo and find out.
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    ^ That was a joke, btw.
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