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    Is the following post by DJ, Te or Ti? Please offer explanations why or why not? Please dissect away.

    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    UGH. God dammit, Rick.



    There will not be a permanent decline in economic activity. There is plenty of scientific research being done on alternatives to fossil fuels, and the economic incentive for profit will pretty much guarantee that one of them becomes popular and causes the economics cogs to start turning again.



    Any time you take out a loan, you are taking on a risk. Before taking out a student loan, you should do research to determine how lucrative your chosen degree is and what the jobs market is like for people with that degree. A philosophy major, for example, has little business taking on such debt unless he values possessing the degree more than the freedom of not having to pay back the loan while working a crappy job. It all amounts to opportunity cost.



    Of course it will. The problem right now is that the various Western governments are making the recovery take longer by fucking with the economic fundamentals of their respective economies. This is common sense. However, free market capitalism, though it can be slowed, has proven time and time again that it is robust enough to prosper in spite of substantial detrimental mitigating factors, like tariffs and government oversight.



    How many of these people will contribute to the inevitable economic recovery that will take place in the next five to ten years? You need to look at the big picture and determine if there is a net benefit to society in having these people educated despite the costs incurred.



    Monetary return on investment? If there truly weren't any monetary return, then of course it would generally be foolish to take on such debt. However, most college degrees do result in costs being recovered and then some.



    Most of them do, but it's actually pretty easy to pay back $30,000 when you're making $40-50,000 a year out of college. It may take some years, but it's very doable.



    You're missing the point. The reason people go to college is to earn a degree, not because they are somehow stuck on the false notion that classroom learning is the only way to become educated.

    College is about money for most people, but I agree that many subjects can be learned quite easily on one's own if you're willing to put forth the effort. I know that you speak like ten languages, I can fluently read Spanish from 100% self-study, and am also in calculus despite never taking a math class that went above basic algebra. However, you and I are also quite a bit smarter than the average person, so I am hesitant to hold other people up to these standards.

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    I deliberately try to use Te when discussing economics, so this may not be a good example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I deliberately try to use Te when discussing economics, so this may not be a good example.
    You can't use that function that way. Not where it's located anyway. Just like I can't use Fe in the same manner that Fe leading types or ego types, like Sarinana can, and I believe that you have observed that very clearly. So, your argument here is not good, if you're receptive to even learning anything from me, in terms of how socionics functions manifest.

    But, I have a feeling you're not because you want to be deliberately stubborn towards me especially.

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    I couldn't read it. too long. too boring. too... economic.
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    I can read it just fine my Fe ego block confident...lol. *hug*


    Not a single word there that is "structure", "organize", "priotitize", "oderly" "system"
    Last edited by Beautiful sky; 07-18-2010 at 11:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I can read it just fine my Fe ego block confident...lol. *hug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    I couldn't read it. too long. too boring. too... economic.
    Please don't vote then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Please don't vote then.
    I didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    I didn't.
    I mean in elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I mean in elections.
    I voted for Ralph Nader in the last one...

    but yeah, I hate politics and I'm suitably ignorant although less so than most.
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    equals information
    He uses this function like you do to collect information on the same topics that interest both of you. Look back at your arguments with him and read the details of all of these facts and data that you two collected and used it to argue with one another. Se doesn't work this way. How useful and practical is war or subjects on war to Se types. They usualy concern themselvs with real immediate/practical/pragmatic issues rather then reading, watching for inane information that Se would see as a waste of time and brainpower.

    What's more is that Se types do not normally like to engage a converstation on these storehouses of information (Te), where Te types would.

    TiSe is concerned with how information comes together to make a system in the immediate use of their efforts, but here, he doesn't discuss what the system is, hence no Ti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    I didn't read the exchange between Rick/DJ in that thread. I saw 'peak oil' written therein and immediately closed the window to spare myself the nonsense.
    Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ananke View Post
    In my opinon his post shows little real understanding.
    lol

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    Would you like me to get you other examples Ananke of his Te?

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    I fucking said that I focus on Te when discussing economics. Both of you die in fires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I fucking said that I focus on Te when discussing economics. Both of you die in fires.
    And you watch your language. You're being mean offensive and are not considering other people's emotions. Type that reaction!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    And you watch your language. You're being mean offensive and are not considering other people's emotions.
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    I didn't die because you decided to act like a jerk. Neither of those things have Ti or Se.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I didn't die because you decided to act like a jerk. Neither of those things have Ti or Se.
    I don't believe you. I think you did die.

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    Still here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ananke View Post
    You talk about how well objects perform, the maximum return, not how well the system works. You could easily have talked about the overall structure and see how everything is interconnected, that would be Ti, but you didn't touch upon that side of the economic system at all.
    This

    You argue from that point of view everywhere and everytime. I don't have time to prove anything any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Still here...
    Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    This
    I FUCKING SAID I FOCUS ON TE WHEN DISCUSSING ECONOMICS. WHY DON'T YOU TRY LISTENING TO SIMPLE FUCKING INFORMATION.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Liar.



    I FUCKING SAID I FOCUS ON TE WHEN DISCUSSING ECONOMICS. WHY DON'T YOU TRY LISTENING TO SIMPLE FUCKING INFORMATION.
    see below and tone your voice down when speaking with me or do you feel that I need to instruct you like you're a kid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    see below and tone your voice down when speaking with me or do you feel that I need to instruct you like you're a kid?
    Go rape a birdbath, ho.

    Quote Originally Posted by he died with a felafel View Post
    DJ's staunch adherence to free market capitalism seems a fairly Ti outlook to me - ignores anything that doesn't fit the model or explains it away by, say "The problem right now is that the various Western governments are making the recovery take longer by fucking with the economic fundamentals of their respective economies. This is common sense."
    I don't ignore other perspectives. I actually spend a lot of time learning and understanding them.

    I fail to see how this is "common sense" - seems to me it's probably common sense to Ti. Also, no explanation as to how governments are "fucking with the economic fundamentals" (in his own words).
    There's not an explanation because I already explained it to Rick in detail. Repeating simple information to someone over and over is frustrating. He knows what I was referring to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Go rape a birdbath, ho.
    Only an immature jerk like you can say such a thing to me and you are one, surprise. But, you'll get it someday; may not be today, but it will come; it always does.


    LSI have Fi role idiot, and they can pick up on the emotions as well as strive to be highly moral and ethical with their relations with others, where immature and child like LSE like you scratch their balls when they can't grow up and learn to recognize that what they are doing is actually being in a nurotic situation because the more they reject Fi the more out of control they become...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Only an immature jerk like you can say such a thing to me and you are one, surprise. But, you'll get it someday; may not be today, but it will come; it always does.


    LSI have Fi role idiot, and they can pick up on the emotions as well as strive to be highly moral and ethical with their relations with others, where immature and child like LSE like you scratch their balls when they can't grow up and learn to recognize that what they are doing is actually being in a nurotic situation because the more they reject Fi the more out of control they become...
    Suck my dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Suck my dick.
    You're not my husband. So that's SOL for you. If you had an Fi role, you would appreciate the conservative nature of my comment as well as appreciating the fact that things of this nature are discussed in a relationship and not like the way you do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    You're not my husband. So that's SOL for you. If you had an Fi role, you would appreciate the conservative nature of my comment as well as appreciating the fact that things of this nature are discussed in a relationship and not like the way you do it.
    What does this look like to you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    What does this look like to you?

    a pill you need to take to learn to tell the difference between Fe and Fi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    a pill you need to take to learn to tell the difference between Fe and Fi.
    Haha, nice.

    BTW, sex before marriage is awesome. You should try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Haha, nice.

    BTW, sex before marriage is awesome. You should try it.
    Fi-What you're doing is wrong because it affects the feelings of others and since you're a bit dense and don't or can't effectively judge how you come off to others, perhaps it would behoove you to listen and maybe ask.

    That's why you say things that hurt other's emotions those gruff comments and outrageous sense of humor and such...

    You're being an arrogant, egotistical, shmuck. Tone it down; you're pissing me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Fi-What you're doing is wrong because it affects the feelings of others and since you're a bit dense and don't or can't effectively judge how you come off to others, perhaps it would behoove you to listen and maybe ask.
    Why should I consider other people's feelings ahead of my own? Are they more important than me?

    That's why you say things that hurt other's emotions those gruff comments and outrageous sense of humor and such...
    WHAT IS EMOTIONS

    You're being an arrogant, egotistical, shmuck. Tone it down; you're pissing me off.
    You're being a condescending, belittling, ignorant vagina. Tone it down; you're pissing me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    a pill you need to take to learn to tell the difference between Fe and Fi.

    Fi-What you're doing is wrong because it affects the feelings of others and since you're a bit dense and don't or can't effectively judge how you come off to others, perhaps it would behoove you to listen and maybe ask.

    That's why you say things that hurt other's emotions those gruff comments and outrageous sense of humor and such...
    lol I honestly don't find his sense of humor offensive whatsoever. It's hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Why should I consider other people's feelings ahead of my own? Are they more important than me?



    WHAT IS EMOTIONS



    You're being a condescending, belittling, ignorant vagina. Tone it down; you're pissing me off.
    You're concerned about compassion aren't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    You're concerned about compassion aren't you?
    If by compassion you mean anal penetration of women, then yes, I am very concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    If by compassion you mean anal penetration of women, then yes, I am very concerned.
    That humor is offensive to me. It's offensive to Fi Roles and Fi Activators as well; I've never heard and SLE tell me that out of concern for being and having "class". So you must be an alien type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    That humor is offensive to me. It's offensive to Fi Roles and Fi Activators as well; I've never heard and SLE tell me that out of concern for being and having "class". So you must be an alien type.
    You speak in absolutes about people, yet you poorly understand the information from which you derive your conclusions. It is quite frustrating to listen to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    You speak in absolutes about people, yet you poorly understand the information from which you derive your conclusions. It is quite frustrating to listen to you.
    Te-DS for me and Te ego for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Te-DS for me and Te ego for you.
    Cute how you don't understand the basic, simple difference between Te and Ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    I couldn't read it. too long. too boring. too... economic.
    ditto. I read the first sentence and I was just like, nope, can't do it.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

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