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    Who cares.

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    We should build infrastructure deep into the earths mantle.... powered by geothermal energy. A part of this infrastructure could be precisely controlling the flow of petroleum. You could start by using satellites to probe the earth for petroleum sources, identifying certain prospective sites and then designing an energy station to provide geothermal energy and petroleum. The station would have to be designing for a worst case scenario of total structural failure, at which point automatic contingency systems would seal the station and shut it down and transmit a distress signal, which a trained team could pick up and investigate and salvage/repair the station.

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    180 million gallons leaked over 85 days.. And we thought Exon Valdez was a disaster? Exon Valdez was about 11 million gallons.
    As of right now the cleanup efforts for this gulf spill have recovered about 15k barrels of oil. The thing was leaking about 50k barrels a day. So yeah, not even 1/3rd a days worth of oil cleaned up yet..
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    We should build infrastructure deep into the earths mantle.... powered by geothermal energy. A part of this infrastructure could be precisely controlling the flow of petroleum. You could start by using satellites to probe the earth for petroleum sources, identifying certain prospective sites and then designing an energy station to provide geothermal energy and petroleum. The station would have to be designing for a worst case scenario of total structural failure, at which point automatic contingency systems would seal the station and shut it down and transmit a distress signal, which a trained team could pick up and investigate and salvage/repair the station.
    I agree... starting in 2500.

    Man do you have any idea how hot the mantle is? Most of it is magma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat360 View Post
    180 million gallons leaked over 85 days.. And we thought Exon Valdez was a disaster? Exon Valdez was about 11 million gallons.
    As of right now the cleanup efforts for this gulf spill have recovered about 15k barrels of oil. The thing was leaking about 50k barrels a day. So yeah, not even 1/3rd a days worth of oil cleaned up yet..
    Imagine how much oil they need to burn just to clean all that oil up.
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    It's obviously a disaster, and I wish it hadn't happened to the physical world, but it seems to me this will have a significant impact on the willingness of previous foot-draggers to sign on the environmental measures bills in the political world.
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    People who aren't directly affect by this, but who are talking about it and are concerned about it, are idiots.

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    Killing all the fish in the gulf of mexico & destroying the beaches is a bad thing any way you slice it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat360 View Post
    Killing all the fish in the gulf of mexico & destroying the beaches is a bad thing any way you slice it.
    But the people who care don't care for economic reasons. Almost all of them care for ridiculous "Save-The-Trees" reasons, in which case you wonder why they aren't bitching instead about the MILLIONS OF STARVING PEOPLE IN AFRICA.

    FUCKING STUPID STUPID STUPID ARGGGHHH.

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    I think crazedrat was alluding to more than just economic repercussions. Saving the trees/beaches/whales/waters is not a bad idea.
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    I don't really care whether the economy effects me more or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby View Post
    I think crazedrat was alluding to more than just economic repercussions. Saving the trees/beaches/whales/waters is not a bad idea.
    Yes, but my point was that you would think these same people would be more concerned with the much more horrible, continuous problems the world faces, such as the millions of children in Africa who starve to death every year.

    But no, those starving children aren't on the news every day, so they cease to exist to the hordes of half wits who only react to whatever happens to be in vogue at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Yes, but my point was that you would think these same people would be more concerned with the much more horrible, continuous problems the world faces, such as the millions of children in Africa who starve to death every year.

    But no, those starving children aren't on the news every day, so they cease to exist to the hordes of half wits who only react to whatever happens to be in vogue at the moment.
    True, though if that was you're point, that's an entirely different kettle of fish from saying that anyone who is concerned or talking about this at all without being directly affected (for now) is an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    We should build infrastructure deep into the earths mantle.... powered by geothermal energy. A part of this infrastructure could be precisely controlling the flow of petroleum. You could start by using satellites to probe the earth for petroleum sources, identifying certain prospective sites and then designing an energy station to provide geothermal energy and petroleum. The station would have to be designing for a worst case scenario of total structural failure, at which point automatic contingency systems would seal the station and shut it down and transmit a distress signal, which a trained team could pick up and investigate and salvage/repair the station.
    How do you stop said infrastructure from melting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby View Post
    True, though if that was you're point, that's an entirely different kettle of fish from saying that anyone who is concerned or talking about this at all without being directly affected (for now) is an idiot.
    They are idiots. Hardly anyone is going to be consequentially affected by this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Yes, but my point was that you would think these same people would be more concerned with the much more horrible, continuous problems the world faces, such as the millions of children in Africa who starve to death every year.

    But no, those starving children aren't on the news every day, so they cease to exist to the hordes of half wits who only react to whatever happens to be in vogue at the moment.
    Yup. If anything, the increase in the price of fish should mean African fisherman do a little better this year. Unless the US government subsidizes the fishing industry or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khola View Post
    How do you stop said infrastructure from melting?
    Good question lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    I agree... starting in 2500.

    Man do you have any idea how hot the mantle is? Most of it is magma.
    Yea lol, imagine how cool it would be if you could build something that could function in such an extreme environment.

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    There are all sorts of problems going on with this that I may get back to later on.
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    I changed the oil in my friends car yesterday then threw the old stuff into her neighbors pool so that I could feel involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    But the people who care don't care for economic reasons. Almost all of them care for ridiculous "Save-The-Trees" reasons, in which case you wonder why they aren't bitching instead about the MILLIONS OF STARVING PEOPLE IN AFRICA.

    FUCKING STUPID STUPID STUPID ARGGGHHH.
    does this mean you value goodwill and compassion?

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    Yes, but my point was that you would think these same people would be more concerned with the much more horrible, continuous problems the world faces, such as the millions of children in Africa who starve to death every year.

    But no, those starving children aren't on the news every day, so they cease to exist to the hordes of half wits who only react to whatever happens to be in vogue at the moment.
    sigh. Yeah, that's technically true, but what's better: no one caring about anyone else's suffering, or everyone caring about other people's suffering, but maybe not having the "correct" care/suffering ratio? I'd rather people care about other people suffering, even if they don't care the most about the worst suffering, than nobody care at all. Plus, the exercise of pity and compassion are good for us; they help us develop our moral character. St. Augustine says that's one of the reasons we go to plays. Or, to put it cynically, when you help others, you can't help helping yourself.
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