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    Just today we had the final of the World Cup between Spain and Holland and Spain won. Much better football there than the dutch tactics of breaking legs to win the game.

    But anyway I was wondering what are the Socionics types of these countries, or at least Quadras?

    I know from my previous years of Enneagram research that Spain is typed as E8 and Holland many times E7. I don´t know Socionics-wise.

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    maybe ENFp for Holland.

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    I was thinking ESFp for Holland, because of their just do what you want liberality with things such as drugs, gay marriage, etc.
    Though Holland could be also ISTP, just crossed my mind, same liberality with more coldness.

    For Spain, maybe ESTp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne View Post
    I was thinking ESFp for Holland, because of their just do what you want liberality with things such as drugs, gay marriage, etc.
    Doesn't necessarily contradict ENFp fwiw.

    I get Narrator-Feeler (Judicious) vibe from them. Out of 4 Narrator-Feeling-Judicious types (ENFp INFj ESFj ISFp) ENFp seems to make most sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne View Post
    Just today we had the final of the World Cup between Spain and Holland and Spain won. Much better football there than the dutch tactics of breaking legs to win the game.

    But anyway I was wondering what are the Socionics types of these countries, or at least Quadras?

    I know from my previous years of Enneagram research that Spain is typed as E8 and Holland many times E7. I don´t know Socionics-wise.
    I watched the final last night with my dual. I was rooting for Spain, eventhough #10 in the Netherland's team was my dual. Every time he came on, my dual cousin would announce to her guests, "there's your dual, Maritsa."..


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    The South of Spain (mix of Germanic, Moroccan and Euro-Mediterranean ethnicities) is clearly Fe (+Si in the coasts, +Se in the inside), this is the stereotype most people think about when recalling Spain.

    The East coast (Mediterranean ethnicity) is gamma and promotes the secession from Spain by using political means. There is a bunch of jokes on the way peoples from Catalunya value Money.

    Catalan independentism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The North (they share DNA with the British and Irish) is delta. They promote secession from Spain too, but they use violence plus political means.

    Basque nationalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The center (Germanic ethnicity) is clearly beta, and Madrid is gamma.




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    Is Galicia separatist, too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Is Galicia separatist, too?
    Hey, you are well informed!

    ...yeah, but their goals are not as ambitious as the others separatists'
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Hey, you are well informed!

    ...yeah, but their goals are not as ambitious as the others separatists'
    Eheh yeah I had some catalan friends back in Denmark, they gave me a (biased) review of the situation. It seemed to me a rather foolish kind of separatism, here in Italy we have hundreds of dialects which would be considered as much "language" as catalan is considered with respect to spanish. It also looked like Catalunya already has quite a big level of autonomy, so it was hard for me to understand why they wanted an even stronger separation. Basque countries actually seem to have a stronger "right" for a national identity, since their ethnicity and language should (but likely isn't) be rather different from the rest of Spain, although I don't know the exact details.

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