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Difference between SLEs/ESTps of Enneagram type 7 and 8
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E8s are more commanding, E7s are more friendly. I have an SLE E8 grandpa and an SLE E7 brother. The latter gets on my nerves more often, but that's 'cause I live with him.
E7s are the more fun-loving, let's go out and do something crazy SLEs. E8s are the other kind.
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
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yeah. SLE-7s are often Ti-subs and SLE-8s often Se-subs.Originally Posted by ananke
IEI-Fe 4w3
interesting.
IEI-Fe 4w3
This makes a bit more sense as the Ti-subtype should have a slightly weaker PolR.
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SLE 7s are the guys you're friends with, good at cheating their way out of every system they get in, get rich and waste their money on hookers. SLE 8s are your boss, shout at your when they are angry and beat their wife, but love their children.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
SLE 7s are more lighthearted the 8s are more serious; they might have light touch but at the core be more serious people than Howard Stern.
Basically accurate, although I'm both easy to like and often lazy.
I would agree with ananke on this - more SLE-Se Sevens, more SLE-Ti Eights.
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are you E-7 or E-8?
ahhahahahaa yes...
Short Answer to the 5 dollar question.
7's -- Enjoyment Seeking
8's -- Power Seeking
The gradient between 7 and 8 is about the combination of enjoyment and power... like feel excited and on top of the world... and seeking those experiences....
where as the 6/7 gradient is more mentally contained... like outrun the anxiety and just enjoy your time in good company... but still a little safer than the 7/8 gradient
the 8/9 gradient is more bear-like.... calm earthy... think maximus the farmer from gladiator... statusque and commanding but earthy and calm and in touch with the earth.
This is also the border between the Thinking and Instinctual Triad. The intersection of Thought and Instinct apparently... I've yet to determine if this means anything.
lol What? When do I claim to be smarter than others?
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SLE 8s: Herman Goerring, Donald Trump
SLE 7s: Anthony Keidis, Jim Carrey
yeah, kiedes is the archetype of Se-SLE 7. I do think they go hand in hand. personally, that's the easiest type of SLE to deal with, because they're detached enough to make things easier, but also reactive in a way that prevents boredom. haven't known any SLE 8s closely, but I doubt they'd be much fun, maybe useful for collaboration. actually, E3s seem to be more common than E8s, specifically among the Ti-subtypes, unsurprisingly. winehouse and madonna epitomize it. aside from that, you have SLE 6s, most of which ime have been the casual friend type, with a few sx primaries who were fairly batshit.
4w3-5w6-8w7
Of course you forgot the E-3 SLE, They are the coolest
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
E3 SLEs are fun for aristocratic posturing. It feels like a dark ballroom with random glints of light within smoke vapors that you somehow have to catch and reflect.
strrng, what do you mean by that?
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
do you guys generally find E-3 SLEs to be Ti-subs or Se-subs?
IEI-Fe 4w3
redbaron umm not sure, but one think I do know is that they are very different than the E-7,8. and they usually don't have as much of E-3's problem as other socionic types who are E-3.
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
I think my sister-in-law is E-3w4. But she seems a pretty balanced subtype. I guess Se if I had to choose one.
IEI-Fe 4w3
not sure. I was slightly rewired at the time.
Ti-subs are more common ime. I think the E3 type makes more sense with the J-sub beta attitude in general (higher collective focus, more overtly dramatic expression).
E7 SLE: Jack Sparrow
E8 SLE: Barbossa
What do these signs mean—,
, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
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So.... this is perfect! My husband is type 8 and I am type 7, both ESTP's but so different, although I have always thought he was an ExxJ because of his 8 tendencies. SO ACCURATE! He's a dogmatic, loyal firefighter and I am a life of the party, teacher and performer. He was drawn to me because I'm outgoing and charming, but don't take anyone's crap and I'm not fake. I was drawn to him because he is the only one who doesn't take my crap. HAHA
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