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    more directed towards ESTJ's(Ryu ), Delta STs, then Delta NFs by order of importance:

    do you feel that talking about sexual acts you had with a significant other to other people(perhaps a close group of friends) is unacceptable or improper behavior? if you do, which I am assuming is yes, please elaborate on why this is so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratXII View Post
    pirate can you please get out of my quadra
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    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Nope, unless there was explicit mention not to say anything, which is doubtful. I wouldn't see what the big deal is, we all have sex and if you're in a relationship, you're most likely having sex. If it's to close people, I wouldn't mind at all really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    more directed towards ESTJ's(Ryu ), Delta STs, then Delta NFs by order of importance:

    do you feel that talking about sexual acts you had with a significant other to other people(perhaps a close group of friends) is unacceptable or improper behavior? if you do, which I am assuming is yes, please elaborate on why this is so.
    I don't have issues with it per se but it would depend why I was doing it.

    I'd find it inappropriate if it was seen as classified information for what ever reason, which is kinda like betraying a confidence just for the sake of it.

    What about you?

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    I think it's improper. It's always sexier when things are kept discrete, and veiled from the public. I feel like it makes the relationship closer and more special.
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    I'm the opposite. ;p Being Beta I guess that makes sense. I think public talks about sex , they make me relaxed, less nervous and uneasy- and make me feel like, just more comfortable. Although that isn't to assume that I prefer public displays of affection or obscene behavior publicly. (really I don't understand why people get bent over shape as this as they do, considering it's how they were made. It's like backwards to me...) But when I was younger I was really bothered by this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    I think it's improper. It's always sexier when things are kept discrete, and veiled from the public. I feel like it makes the relationship closer and more special.
    I agree with this. What I was thinking was if for instance there was advice being seeked for medical reasons, or one of your friends was asking for advice on anything like pre-mature ejaculation for instance, ok I know its far fetched but like not everyone wants to talk to a doctor so the discussion is done to help, not to brag or betray etc.

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    Not a Delta, but I think it's simply an issue of respecting the other person's privacy, not to mention one's own. Obviously there are exceptions like Cyclops mentioned, but I'd hate for it to be anything less than confidential, which includes not talking to people who may broadcast it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    more directed towards ESTJ's(Ryu ), Delta STs, then Delta NFs by order of importance:

    do you feel that talking about sexual acts you had with a significant other to other people(perhaps a close group of friends) is unacceptable or improper behavior? if you do, which I am assuming is yes, please elaborate on why this is so.
    Depends

    Why do you assume yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    I agree with this. What I was thinking was if for instance there was advice being seeked for medical reasons, or one of your friends was asking for advice on anything like pre-mature ejaculation for instance, ok I know its far fetched but like not everyone wants to talk to a doctor so the discussion is done to help, not to brag or betray etc.
    well sure, i would even feel flattered if a friend came to me to confide in such things, and I would try to give advice without any judgement. I get the feeling the betas are asking about casual chatting about sex. But the way you interpreted the question is really interesting. Practical, practical!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    I don't have issues with it per se but it would depend why I was doing it.

    I'd find it inappropriate if it was seen as classified information for what ever reason, which is kinda like betraying a confidence just for the sake of it.

    What about you?
    I feel like its okay to talk about with a trusted close circle and only if your partner is okay with it too. Who I'm sharing it to is important - people who I know will not talk about it with others, will not disrespect her, etc. A very select few. But even then, there is a limit - I wont go into too much detail as I do agree that after a certain point there's a possibility for the intimacy of it all to be lessened.

    If people are curious if you have done x, what x feels like, I feel okay answering. If people are curious about if x girl was 'good in the sack', I try to keep it as vague and respectful as possible - although I have only ever talked about my past sexual relationships - not my current ones as I feel its a bit different? perhaps maybe because there's no Fi bond, so its more of an memory that your sharing as opposed to some more intimate; although I suppose that would vary based on how close the memory was to said person?

    In general I do think sharing those kinds of things can be informative or helpful within certain restraints, and definitely don't discourage it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu View Post
    Depends

    Why do you assume yes?
    you remind me of this ESTj I know, and he and other ESTjs have always seemed(and are from my observations) very conservative about this area. so I suppose I'm looking for the whys as I do feel that its an interesting and oppositional outlook in comparison to how I see things, but also very relate-able.
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    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
    Nope, unless there was explicit mention not to say anything, which is doubtful. I wouldn't see what the big deal is, we all have sex and if you're in a relationship, you're most likely having sex. If it's to close people, I wouldn't mind at all really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    more directed towards ESTJ's(Ryu ), Delta STs, then Delta NFs by order of importance:

    do you feel that talking about sexual acts you had with a significant other to other people(perhaps a close group of friends) is unacceptable or improper behavior? if you do, which I am assuming is yes, please elaborate on why this is so.
    Sex is tabooish for me, so yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
    Nope, unless there was explicit mention not to say anything, which is doubtful. I wouldn't see what the big deal is, we all have sex and if you're in a relationship, you're most likely having sex. If it's to close people, I wouldn't mind at all really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratXII View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    I feel like its okay to talk about with a trusted close circle and only if your partner is okay with it too. Who I'm sharing it to is important - people who I know will not talk about it with others, will not disrespect her, etc. A very select few. But even then, there is a limit - I wont go into too much detail as I do agree that after a certain point there's a possibility for the intimacy of it all to be lessened.

    If people are curious if you have done x, what x feels like, I feel okay answering. If people are curious about if x girl was 'good in the sack', I try to keep it as vague and respectful as possible - although I have only ever talked about my past sexual relationships - not my current ones as I feel its a bit different? perhaps maybe because there's no Fi bond, so its more of an memory that your sharing as opposed to some more intimate; although I suppose that would vary based on how close the memory was to said person?

    In general I do think sharing those kinds of things can be informative or helpful within certain restraints, and definitely don't discourage it.
    I don't see anything wrong with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    He will when he finds his type.
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    I pretty much agree with everyone: as long as you're not violating someone else's privacy and sharing really intimate details then it's perfectly fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanprollyright View Post
    I pretty much agree with everyone: as long as you're not violating someone else's privacy and sharing really intimate details then it's perfectly fine.
    This is generally the sentiment most people hold, despite type. This topic isn't quadra/type related, just more perpetuation of stereotypes. As the OP insinuates, stereotypes on this board predict that Deltas will be conservative and not want to talk about sex because that somehow seems "immoral" or "improper," and Betas like talking about it because it's "crude" and "controversial." Overall, things similar to the topic at hand aren't type relevant, but personally so. There might be a type related reason on WHY you feel comfortable/uncomfortable discussing sex (so, a Beta reason for feeling like talking about sex is inappropriate and Delta reasoning for talking about sex openly as appropriate as well), but your type doesn't have a casual link to behaviors/opinions like this (meaning type isn't how you have the behavior, it just might bring perspective on why you have it).

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    Of course it's inappropriote! So is public emotion. It's very rude to make people put up with that sort of thing when they didn't ask for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    He will when he finds his type.
    you are enfj. not a typical one tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    last I checked you agreed I was IEI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    do you want to be?
    I don't know, honestly

    mixed feelings

    right now I'm on the slightly no side

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    Depends, I mean - the fundamental reason I see myself ever doing this is if I am confused about something, or just wanted to run something by a friend which I don't feel like I can ask my SO directly. I will try to keep it as impersonal as possible and omit any details, especially those irrelevant.

    Or that is how I imagine it at least. It is entirely possible the bond with my SO feels so sacred I am unable to bring something private out into "public" in the sense of even telling a single friend.

    I have had pretty good friendships though, so I have a feeling my friends, even those in the future lol, will be kind and understanding and not put off by this stuff lol.

    but yeah idk, I will have to see.


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    the kamasutra were an ancient culture which revolved around sex and they displayed it everywhere as much as possible.what an intriguing choice.

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    Unless it's a doctor for medical reasons, would never. If someone talks casually about their sex life, I quickly assume that person to be morally debauched and not one to associate with. Your sex life is a personal thing between you and your partner and there is quite frankly no reason whatsoever that you should feel the need to inform me of the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LemurianLo View Post
    Unless it's a doctor for medical reasons, would never. If someone talks casually about their sex life, I quickly assume that person to be morally debauched and not one to associate with. Your sex life is a personal thing between you and your partner and there is quite frankly no reason whatsoever that you should feel the need to inform me of the details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    If you feel the same way towards cabinet-making, you’re never going to learn the best practices for building furniture.
    The best way to improve your sex life is to communicate with the person you're sleeping with, not Joe Blow at the office. Same with cabinet making, what are my family and friends gonna know about making the best furniture for my clients? For every decent piece of advice could be gained really shit advice as well. Better cutout the excess and just go find out what my clients are after, from my clients.

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