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    We've all ran into those people in the course of our socionics adventures who are resistant to being typed. They don't want to be forced into any box and no matter how much explaining you do they still claim that they exist outside the theory entirely, or rather it's easy to tell that that's what they aim for.

    In my case it's alphas. More specifically the alpha introverts, even more specifically LII's.

    I'd be really interested to see if there is some correlation between the user's type and the group that is most resistant to their typings.
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    So... LII's don't think they are LII's?
    I'm confuzzled.
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    Shrug. One of my best friends (who I have eventualy settled on as ILI), was very resistant to having a socionics type, partially 'cause we started with MBTI, which really didn't work on her at all. But she's actually ILI.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    So... LII's don't think they are LII's?
    I'm confuzzled.
    I'm LII with a 95% confidence interval since there's a small chance I could be something else.
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    Ooooooo you mean people who don't know of the theory yet. Nevermind.
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    IEE in my expirience, maybe SEE too...Ti theories don't jive as well with them. And ESE then LSE because of Ni polr.

    Edit: switching LSE ahead of ESE for usage at least of socionics once they "get" it. ESE more likely to agree once they are shown it.
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    My LSE Dad didn't like the idea of the theory, no matter how much positive evidence I threw at him. He seemed awed for a bit when the intertype relations descriptions matched well tho.
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    So far, in my experience, LIIs have loved being put in boxes. As long as the box is accurate. That's not to say there aren't any who would resist it, but it seems to me that Ti lends itself to that sort of thing.

    In my experience so far, it's the Serious quadras that most resist being typed (rejecting Ti).

    I would expect SEEs and ESIs would hate it, though I've never tried to convince one of them of their type.
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    one supposed LII didn't get it at first and thought it was some stupid horoscope
    wait make that TWO
    actually make at first into: they never looked into it seriously

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    I would guess a couple of things, such as there not being a great deal of introspection that they identify with too much or nothing at all. Resistant implies to me that they don't want to be constrained to a "type," but assuming they are a part of this community, type others, so it doesn't really make sense to me. If you look at Socionics more as a lens to observe yourself or other people through, I think you can easily settle with the idea of having a type and being confident that it doesn't sum up who you are (so, could to with a lack of understanding as well). So I don't really see it as type related, though I feel like I can count on one hand the ones that post often, so it seems like too small of a sample to say anything about.

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    In my experience, ILIs. Most other people i knew who were type resistant were doing it for ideological reasons, ILIs were doing it because they thought it was nonsense.

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    I think the biggest part of this "type resistance" is actually the fault of the person who presents the theory. Explaining socionics and typing someone is just not the way to go. You don't come with a box and tell people to get in. The best success I had was with mentioning this interesting personality theory - yes, I know psychological types, the former sounds better though - via IM and sending them a link to the test - I use sociotype.com. It's irrelevant if the test works for them or not, once people do it and try to identify with the type, you can suggest alternatives; the point is, they're in.

    Most resistant to typing turned out to be EII. I did suspect LII at first, but he isn't one.

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    I've had this experience with a couple ESFx's and an IEE psych major who was dissatisfied by the lack of empiricism...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    I would expect SEEs and ESIs would hate it, though I've never tried to convince one of them of their type.
    Not so much in my experience, but it's a funny thing. One of my best friends tested as ILI (He kept trying to justify it), and I knew there was no way in hell that was the case until one day it finally hit me; He's the most sterotyped SEE ever, then I showed him the SEE page and explained it to him a little and now whenever socionics comes up in conversation along with typing he exclaims "I KNOW MY TYPE! I'm... SEE? Right?"
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    I think to truly be type resistant, you must first kill yourself. You don't seem so prideful anymore, do ya.

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    lol
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    In my experience, ILIs. Most other people i knew who were type resistant were doing it for ideological reasons, ILIs were doing it because they thought it was nonsense.
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    This has happened as well as with IEI ....every type is resistant to things they are resistant to.

    Edit:but again I will give slightly more resistance to Fi/Te quadras considering its a Ne/Ti theory and the Ne and Til polrs moreso.
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    ESIs were the hardest to type until I met an EII-Ne.

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    Thing is, I identify with SLI, ILI, LII, SEI, and EII, but not one more-so in particular. I remember hearing somewhere that that means I'm EII, but when I read up on the functions and the descriptions of the type it really doesn't fit any better than the others. Maybe I'll figure it out given enough time. It's not my intention to manipulate in this way by not having a type.

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    I don't really speak with anyone I know about Socionics in any great depth except for my mother, LSE-Si, who is a certified MBTI practitioner/trainer/whatever. My dad, EII-Fi, shows mild interest, but mostly only to engage me in discussion. My sister is SEI-Fe, and I have spoken with her about it in minor detail, but typically all that ever comes of that is her saying that I should pursue psychology professionally. The most resistant person to discussing any of my interests in psychology is my best friend, SEE-Se, who tends to think that most of my intellectual pursuits are pretentious and irritating.
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    pinnochio: i was reqouting an above post, and responding to that .
    ILI I know is open briefly to its discussion but it never went past a 2 minute conversation and he can't be bothered to read and learn about it himself to decide. And then he turns his critics eye on the te aspect of me wasting time on a forum etc.

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    jughead you're Ni-IEI right?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    ESIs were the hardest to type until I met an EII-Ne.
    yeah

    UI think meeting people of the SAME type who are different helps you a lot, because it allows you to see more clearly what socionics is about - and what it is not about.

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