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    I'm kinda curious to hear all opinions now.

    So once upon a time, my IEI friend typed me as an ILE (his SEE friend even agreed with it) way before I got into Socionics, and he asked me to take the test which I ended up getting what he expected. As I started to get into Socionics more, I took it many times and got the same result, except once I got IEE. All those other tests, I got ILE. I know tests aren't everything, and nothing really is if you really think about it, but I also know it wouldn't hurt to ask here.

    I totally relate to the ENTp descriptions, except a few times I thought I could be INTj, and even ESTp. I know Pinnochio suggested ENTj, but I relate to that the least.

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    Those last two pictures are the most recent. Incase you're wondering, they're temporary tattoos and were made for the fun of it.

    And incase you also didn't notice I do like art, but what drives me, academically-wise, is science. To be precise, the field of astronomy moves me, and I don't see why art and science should be a "separate" thing, if anything you can fuse them together.

    I don't think there will be a right amount of information for me to put out here for now as an introduction, because the way I see it trying to describe myself is like trying put the universe at large into a jar. I technically could do that, I could say a bunch of things, but it still won't be "everything." It's like I could write a book from start to finish, but even books have new editions, series, and sequels, if you know what I mean.

    But feel free to ask questions about anything.

    P.S. Bigger props to you if you can type my cousin and aunt there by first impression.

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    I think you're ILE. Something about your sense of humor reminds me of other ILEs I know. It strikes me as alpha NT, which is probably why I get it and find it funny. You remind me alot of 1981Slater, another ILE on this forum. You two both crack me up.

    Also your interest in astronomy and outer space- it seems to attract alot of ILEs. The analogy of putting the universe at large in a jar, sounds very - considering all the possibilites out there.

    Your pics look ILE too.
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    You seem like an ILE-SEE hybrid.
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    You look Italian.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    I think you're ILE. Something about your sense of humor reminds me of other ILEs I know. It strikes me as alpha NT, which is probably why I get it and find it funny. You remind me alot of 1981Slater, another ILE on this forum. You two both crack me up.

    Also your interest in astronomy and outer space- it seems to attract alot of ILEs. The analogy of putting the universe at large in a jar, sounds very - considering all the possibilites out there.

    Your pics look ILE too.
    Cool.

    I can say a lot about why I chose that major if you want to hear, but to make long story short there is nothing as big, vast, unexplored, and unknown as the universe. I don't even want to bother with the "known," because it's already known!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamicism View Post
    Alpha NT doesn't seem unreasonable. Can't decide b/t the two yet though.
    No problem. Let me know later.

    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratXII View Post
    You seem like an ILE-SEE hybrid.
    That's like Sylvester Stallone riding a DeLorean.

    And it'd be a whole different story if Stallone ran into Biff.

    Biff: What are you looking at butthead?
    Stallone: (Explosion in the background and stares)



    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    You look Italian.
    No tiramisu here. I'm actually a plate of pico de gallo and nacatamales born in the big mac with large fries land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratXII View Post
    You seem like an ILE-SEE hybrid.
    OMG, you read my mind. Those were literally the two types I had in my head.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

    Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    Cool.
    That's like Sylvester Stallone riding a DeLorean.

    And it'd be a whole different story if Stallone ran into Biff.

    Biff: What are you looking at butthead?
    Stallone: (Explosion in the background and stares)

    No, it really isn't.
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    Have any more pictures of yourself?

    Your cousin is maybe Ne-INFj, aunt Si-ESTj? Difficult to tell without enough pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    I'm kinda curious to hear all opinions now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratXII View Post
    No, it really isn't.
    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    OMG, you read my mind. Those were literally the two types I had in my head.
    So, what exactly is telling you guys ILE-SEE?

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    Is that your final answer?



    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Have any more pictures of yourself?

    Your cousin is maybe Ne-INFj, aunt Si-ESTj? Difficult to tell without enough pictures.
    Here's a few more:
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    You're an ILE poster child and you're just playing this game with everyone because it's fun for you to see the different possibilities people come up with and comment on them.

    What other games do you like to play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divided View Post
    You're an ILE poster child and you're just playing this game with everyone because it's fun for you to see the different possibilities people come up with and comment on them.
    Yeah, that's one of them.

    I also wanted to be sure because in the back of my mind I'm thinking about duality.

    What other games do you like to play?
    I like StarCraft.

    (Double-bind there)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    Is that your final answer?




    Also, is that your girlfriend (wife?) in the 2nd pic?
    Last edited by Park; 06-19-2010 at 12:58 AM.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post



    Also, is that your girlfriend (wife?) in the 2nd pic?
    No way, that's my cousin; the same one from the other picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    No way, that's my cousin; the same one from the other picture.
    oh okay, sorry

    she's hot
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    You seem quite emotive and look like you have a developed sense of style. I am surprised no one has suggested an Fe type (ExFj) yet.

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    I do think Fe-ESFj is possible, from VI. Thanks for reminding me.

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    @labcoat: LOL at your signature quotes.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    LIE.

    And remember, an ILE never sees/labels/entitles/proclaims him/herself in any manner: "I'm a geek", "I'm an artist", "I'm a whatever".
    I think you could use more:



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    oh okay, sorry

    she's hot
    No need to be sorry, but yeah she's attractive. You like her? She's a self-tested ISTj.

    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    You seem quite emotive and look like you have a developed sense of style. I am surprised no one has suggested an Fe type (ExFj) yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    I do think Fe-ESFj is possible, from VI. Thanks for reminding me.
    Style, sure. I usually keep it simple though; coat, jeans, sneakers or boots. Never too stuffy or formal. Being emotive? I wouldn't say so, I don't do it as much as I'd like to. I actually think I look too cold at times. My best friend and his brother (self-tested ESEs) are more warm, in your face "ahh," outgoing, and aggressive to provoke those emotional states.

    I remember I was at the bar with him one time. These women coming inside the venue, and out of nowhere he yelled real loud:



    That made me crack up.

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    I suggest EIE.

    The eyes have it.

    Emotionality is not in itself an indicator of EIE, only commitment to discovering emotion is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    No need to be sorry, but yeah she's attractive. You like her?
    I like how she looks hot and cool at the same time.

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    She's a self-tested ISTj.
    Conflicting quadras. Things will never work out between us.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Enlightening! I might even type you as SLE after my trip to Tibet. Just hold on.
    By the way, I've been meaning to ask you:

    What made you choose your username?

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    I suggest EIE.

    The eyes have it.
    Even if I put my eyeballs in a jar?

    The eyes are still connected to the mind and body though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    I like how she looks hot and cool at the same time.
    That's how she is kind of, although talking to her is like talking to a detective.

    Conflicting quadras. Things will never work out between us.
    That's how my ISTp mother and ISTj grandfather are like:

    Sandpaper rubbing against sandpaper. The only time when things are good is when things are still and motionless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    That's how she is kind of, although talking to her is like talking to a detective.
    What's that like? Is she constantly asking questions? Specific information-seeking questions?
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    What's that like? Is she constantly asking questions? Specific information-seeking questions?
    Information seeking questions. I know that's my interpretation of it, and others may see it as "normal," or whatever, but my self-tested ISTj grandfather does the same.

    And they get along pretty well actually.

    I'm thinking my cousin's boyfriend (of 8 years) might be INFp, but I want to be sure.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    I used to compose music, some sort of metal, I can't tell what style, but let's say some black-doom. My SLI brother used to call that "Pinocchio metal" .
    Considering that it was a 3rd-party label put by someone who knows me well, I prefer to avoid any bias of inflated self-image using a "cool" nickname by simply adopting that.
    I wonder out of all the words and names in the world, what made him choose that, because when I first came in here I was thinking about this:



    If you have your music laying around somewhere, and don't mind—I wouldn't mind listening to it. I like listening to new tunes and expanding my taste.

    Btw, I would like to know the meaning of your nickname as well, I wanted to ask you this previously, because of something that I would like to tell you (some thoughts of mine about time). Is it a reference to immortality?
    No reference to immortality at all. Everything dies at one point, then again, we can take a step back from that and say nothing ever really gets "born" or "dies" in the first place.

    Anyway, I actually came up with this name for an e-mail account about 5 years ago. To me it just means the way I see our universe. In other words, everything in perspective; all the life, death, thoughts, emotion, logic, science, art, differences, similarities, good, evil, reds, blues, Coca-Colas, Pepsis, pasts, futures, towns, cities, states, countries, continents, planets, star systems, star clusters, galaxies, galaxy clusters, universe, multiverses ... are all suspended in a timeless and boundless point in space in the grand scheme of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    The recordings my brother judged upon were taken by my SLI ex (along with other memories), if I remember correctly - they were cassettes recorded on a deck and I don't own a cassette player anymore. But as soon as I record a demo which I keep in mind for a long time, I'll publish it.
    It has a strict and limited target audience, though.
    No biggie, let me know if that ever changes.

    I understand. Why I asked you was because I know that people use to think about durability and immortality, while my view about this world is nihilistic, using to laugh at people who struggle to accomplish things for eternity. Assuming that the technology will evolve so much that humans will be able to escape this umbilical dependence on the Earth, the changes will be so great and the selection so drastic that basically nothing of what we've done so far will be meaningful or important, even remembered.

    I have a similar view on things like you, in my case this led to non-attachment, all these things are meaningless outside of the perspective of our life. I get some sort of "fatal error" when I try to think about the extent of the matter in space. With time there's no problem, it's easy to conceive that it always existed and will always exist, but about the infinity of its extent. It's easy to acknowledge it on paper, but hard to conceive how it is infinite in a palpable manner, or where does it end otherwise.
    I take it you think about that too when people go off and brag over their wealth, success, power, popularity and all of that other usual stuff?

    This is the way I see it:

    Fame and unfamiliarity is like bowl of soup; if you want to keep it hot, you can keep on putting it in the microwave before it gets cold, but it won't stay fresh for long though. Success and failure is like a glass of water, it will always get emptied and filled; somebody has to drink it, or somebody can spill it, either way it can be re-filled. Power and control is like owning a nice table that other people can sit along with with you. It will eventually end up to a new owner and a new one after that though. While striving for the perfect dinner in the dining room is not wrong, washing those dishes and repeating the same exact thing the next day boggles my mind. Even taking dump after it you eat is like sports; same shit different smell every year. Some people look forward to all of that. I don't because, in the end, what does all of that matter if nobody steps out the house?

    Then again, even despite all that, I know each person is meant for something and isn't better or worse then one another. People may make the world go around, I just want to explore other worlds; metaphorically and physically.

    P.S. About the "fatal error," let's just say I'd love to bring some firmware updates into this world in the future. That's one of the main reasons why I'm going for my Astronomy major because it's the only overriding thing I ever really think about at the end of the day. By the way, have you ever checked out the that video about the 10th dimension? ...I think there can be more dimensions then that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Yeah, here my problem comes.

    First, what I don't understand about you - and about LIEs I know, hence my typing - is why do you think this world requires an upgrade. This exemplifies how I view the difference between ILE and LIE, that people fail to understand because of the stereotypes:
    - ILEs do what they need to do, immediate needs and requests, but often they conclude that this world needs an upgrade in that certain field they got stuck in; this requirement has a cause.
    - LIEs consider that we need to evolve, to make more discoveries, progress, inventions, etc. The cause of their endeavors is progress itself.

    This is why you read in the descriptions that LIEs are explorers and ILEs appear rather as homeboys. Venture characterizes LIEs, ILEs go for it when forced (requirement, need for a better method, threats, etc) by circumstances. ILEs are driven by a desire to understand (Fe-valuers), LIEs are driven by a desire to act, to accomplish something (Te). Ne (Objects function, Extroverted) tries to intuitively understand *something* only when that object appears, Ni (Fields function, Introverted) tries to understand *things*, the rules of everything.
    Where have I said required? Not only are you putting words in my mouth again, but are misinterpreting what I'm saying and nitpicking with those LIE sunglasses on. I was curious and thought you were going to say something about SLE anyway. I'm glad you made that point that it is "I" and stereotypes though.

    But here's the thing, should you listen to this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    And remember, an ILE never sees/labels/entitles/proclaims him/herself in any manner: "I'm a geek", "I'm an artist", "I'm a whatever".
    Source: www.the16types.info/vbulletin/660174-post16.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Is there an example of a geek, chain smoking, not an alcoholic and a partier, decent at sports, rarely shaved, wearing old and ragged black clothes, leather jacket and boots? That would be me .
    Source: www.the16types.info/vbulletin/661997-post18.html

    That does not compute.


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    Smile

    Might as well throw the video on this forum for the hell of it now:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    Might as well throw the video on this forum for the hell of it now:

    YouTube - IMG 0759
    LOL at your video. You seem very ILE/ENTp to me.
    LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP



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    ILE > EIE. MBTI-wise, obvious ENTP.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    Haha you ILE's are often very funny guys. Do you still have doubts about your type really? :wink:
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    At all counts, it forms an unconscious snag, thwarting our most well-meant intentions."

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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    LOL at your video.
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    Lol, your descriptions were great. The ESE one was hilarious because it's true .

    ILE or SEI sounds good. You don't think you fit SEI though, right? I can't decide, but you probably know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeroZen View Post
    Haha you ILE's are often very funny guys. Do you still have doubts about your type really? :wink:
    Seriously I did have doubts. Mainly because my calm and quiet nature, then again that could be the -ILE. Also, I virtually have not seen an SEI around. I've met plenty of IEIs though, most of them are my good friends. Freakin' emos.

    Back to the drawing board.

    Quote Originally Posted by Divided View Post
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    Lol, your descriptions were great. The ESE one was hilarious because it's true .
    My best friend, his girlfriend, and another friend's father are ESEs, they're all like that! It's fun as hell though hanging out with them.

    ILE or SEI sounds good. You don't think you fit SEI though, right? I can't decide, but you probably know.
    Self-dualization.

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    Hmmm, I gots a question for now if you're curious as to how I would type you. Not really sure about your type being ENTp though. What kind of arguments do you usually get into with people? Like, what topics are you must passionate about and get a rise out of you? (positively or negatively).

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    Watching your video, the way you described the types had a lot of / , maybe both. E.g. "I'm not SEI because SEIs are like <weird sound>." I have yet to see you use logic at all. You seem to be really into photo-typing (e.g. that erotic attitudes picture thread). You also posted a picture where you were making a bunch of different faces - not very ILE. Generally you seem like an SF type, not sure which one. I kind of prefer SEE at this point, but it's just a hunch.

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