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    What's wrong with my Si and how can I fix it?
    I wonder sometimes if it's just god's way of playing tricks on me. Sometimes, when I'm craving ice cream, I find myself getting sushi instead. Ice Cream > Sushi??? Other times, I know I'm hungry or I don't know that I'm hungry, I really don't know what I'm feeling or what I'm feeling up for or up to. I can't tell if I need rest or work, or if I need food or a hug. I just don't get what I'm feeling inside or what I'm feeling it for...It just doesn't make sense to me. The logic of Si doesn't make sense to me. Can anyone help me fix it?
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    I don't understand your problem. If you want ice creams, stay with it and then you will soon have an icez cream in your hand ready for the consumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamajama View Post
    I don't understand your problem. If you want ice creams, stay with it and then you will soon have an icez cream in your hand ready for the consumption.
    I want many things, I just don't know what I'm feeling for wanting...does that make sense, like it's all converging, ice cream, hug, food, tea, sushi, steak, pasta, salad, wine, cheese, pizza, so many things, it all converges into confusion...how do I sort it all out and pick one.

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    Well, you could test them all out and see what you like best at a certain time. I would just focus on sweet and tasty things if you are hungry, and go for hugs if you need something physical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamajama View Post
    Well, you could test them all out and see what you like best at a certain time. I would just focus on sweet and tasty things if you are hungry, and go for hugs if you need something physical.
    that's probably it, I don't know or can't tell if I need sweet/food/tasty or physical, I tried it on my own to sort of have a schedule of eating, tasting, whatever, but couldn't keep up with it for long because other feelings kinda got in the way and it just fell apart

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    Well I would prolly eat because you don't need anyone else for that, but then you should cuddle and burn calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamajama View Post
    Well I would prolly eat because you don't need anyone else for that, but then you should cuddle and burn calories.
    I guess eating anything would do right as long as I eat something.

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    You may be looking to blend with the Si impulses of others.
    I know EIIs who are very...... indecisive...... about Si matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    What's wrong with my Si and how can I fix it?
    I wonder sometimes if it's just god's way of playing tricks on me. Sometimes, when I'm craving ice cream, I find myself getting sushi instead. Ice Cream > Sushi??? Other times, I know I'm hungry or I don't know that I'm hungry, I really don't know what I'm feeling or what I'm feeling up for or up to. I can't tell if I need rest or work, or if I need food or a hug. I just don't get what I'm feeling inside or what I'm feeling it for...It just doesn't make sense to me. The logic of Si doesn't make sense to me. Can anyone help me fix it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Whisky Tango Foxtrot are you talking about?
    Ryu fixed it by essentially saying that I need to go with someone else's lead on Si...that I am indecisive with Si matters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu View Post
    You may be looking to blend with the Si impulses of others.
    I know EIIs who are very...... indecisive...... about Si matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Whisky Tango Foxtrot are you talking about?
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    My advice to you would be to meditate. When you meditate, you get more in touch with your base physical senses. They come alive again. Like most internet message board goers you probably have an over-active mind and you think too much in concepts and stuff. It's not that your mind is the enemy or anything, you're just over-using it.

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    Si is not related to ice cream and sushi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    Si is not related to ice cream and sushi.
    Isn't it related to sensations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    What's wrong with my Si and how can I fix it?
    I wonder sometimes if it's just god's way of playing tricks on me. Sometimes, when I'm craving ice cream, I find myself getting sushi instead. Ice Cream > Sushi???
    Maybe it is related to low blood sugar, and not to Si.

    I used to have problems with strange cravings in the afternoon after lunch, but I didn't know what I wanted, and nothing worked. I tried water, coffee, candy, food, nothing helped.

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    I've had full physicals. Blood work and all, nothing abnormal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I want many things, I just don't know what I'm feeling for wanting...does that make sense, like it's all converging, ice cream, hug, food, tea, sushi, steak, pasta, salad, wine, cheese, pizza, so many things, it all converges into confusion...how do I sort it all out and pick one.
    sounds like you need Ti...
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    sounds like you need Ti...
    or Te..right "how to do something"
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    Te-Pick best available methods
    Ti-Pick best available systems

    Systems fail because I ignor them once they are in place and opt for Fi, my personal values drive my understanding of how things should go and be.


    Extraverted logic is also called Processual or Practical Logic.

    It estimates everything in terms of efficiency: not abstract analysis, but "how to make it work?", and not systems, but methods. They are energetic, active, and mobile. As scientists, they are strong in improvement of methods, but often they choose a business career. However, people who work together with them, often blame these types of being "too dry, cold-hearted", even in spite of their high emotionality. In general, this type of thinking may be called “algorithmic”.



    Introverted logic is also called Systematic Logic, or Structural Logic.

    This type of logic is inertial. Instead of “making things work” , it rather focuses on elimination of contradictions, on systematization, or in more general meaning – on “justice” (if it only exists). The types for which this function is dominant are often not too energetic, they are rather stable-mooded, work without noticeable “falls” and “rises”, logical and reticent in their sayings and deeds. On the one hand, other people respect them for being “just”, for their cold and sober analysis of situations; on the other, they do not “feel people” well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    For confusion Ti would be the best remedy. But for Fi types this causes adverse reactions .
    What would Te, Ti do?
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    Ti -will try to determine the time that it is, for instance during lunch you do not eat ice cream first. this is the law. You eat ice cream during ice cream time. During snack time we have a snack. For lunch, it is the law to eat a sandwich or a salad; for dinner we eat dinner items.

    But what if I am craving ice cream at odd times? what then with Ti?

    You see, I know my brother in law LSI very well and getting away with things outside his "laws" of how things should be according to my values is really difficult with him and sometimes he frustrates me easily.

    With my LSE cousin, I do what I want as long as I don't get hurt. If she senses that I will not feel well because of an action I take, she'll tell me, but not interfere emotionally to stop me. She will tell me "why don't you wait to do that until after dinner, when we can do it together." Ti, I find, does not communicate with me very well, instead, they will silently disapprove or hold their emotions in until one day, when they feel that they can let out all of their values/laws that they have in their head about things that I have done "wrong" ...exhausting. I would rather someone be open, blunt, and honest to me about what they are feeling and what they want on the go, even if they feel it may hurt my emotions then to hold their thoughts in then to do what my brother-in-law does with his setting subjective laws/rules about the things that he determines to be "true" or "correct" and silently or sometimes verbally making me adhear to his systems, which I often don't want or like.

    FeNi holds TiSe to their systems by keeping track of the time they spend on tasks...they work really well together. I keep track of plans and undemandingly regulate the flow of time.
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    And as it turns out, all Si leading types are asian sumo wrestlers because they can't stop eating ice cream and sushi.


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    Ti -will try to determine the time that it is, for instance during lunch you do not eat ice cream first. this is the law. You eat ice cream during ice cream time. During snack time we have a snack. For lunch, it is the law to eat a sandwich or a salad; for dinner we eat dinner items.
    Sorry but this is the most preposterous thing I've heard in quite a while and definitely not true when applied to me or my ISTj brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    Sorry but this is the most preposterous thing I've heard in quite a while and definitely not true when applied to me or my ISTj brother.
    I agree! lol struck me funny though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    I agree! lol struck me funny though.
    Why don't we ask Diana.


    LSI - brother in law's common saying. "everything has it's time and must be done according to that time, tradition, or rule/law." Sounds very box like kind of thinking isn't it? Rigid and confined? Well that's exactly what J is.

    Absolutely, this is how Ti thinks.


    Labcoat, you may not be INTj or ISTj.

    I called my Brother-in-law just now to ask him:

    me -"hi, what or how would you recommend if I asked you to tell me what I should eat because I can't decide"
    him -"what do you mean, that depends on what time you are eating"
    me -"for lunch"
    him -"accordingly to a rule (translating from armenian) one eats sandwiches for lunch"
    me -how about if I experience mixed sensations and I want to eat ice cream now
    him -"by a rule, you don't eat ice cream before you eat lunch"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Why don't we ask Diana.

    LSI - brother in law's common saying. "everything has it's time and must be done according to that time, tradition, or rule/law." Sounds very box like kind of thinking isn't it? Rigid and confinded? Well that's exactly what J is.

    Absolutely, this is how Ti thinks.


    Labcoat, you may not be INTj or ISTj.
    maybe (or maybe not) J but what about Ti creative in SLE? No way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    Sorry but this is the most preposterous thing I've heard in quite a while and definitely not true when applied to me or my ISTj brother.
    I've heard her view echoed by Rick as well, even though it's definitely not true in the case of LSI father. I doubt if Rick has mistyped so many people or that Kant isn't Ti dominant, so a reasonable conclusion is that it's not a necessary manifestation of Ti dominance.

    Frankly, I think it may in part be socially motivated. We live in the lap of luxury and it's all too easy these days to ignore discipline in favor of creature comforts or when faced with modern conveniences.
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    What do you people think is the Ti brain if it does not make strict and confined box like thinking about systems/ rules of and judges the outside information by these box like thinking?

    Redbaron, SLE are much more flexible with this regard. They will instead give suggestions or start naming off foods and wait for the other person to respond to an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Redbaron, SLE are much more flexible with this regard. They will instead give suggestions or start naming off foods and wait for the other person to respond to an option.
    yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    yes.
    See where the conflict comes in with me and SLE?

    I am confused enough by my own internal sensations, they don't make the matter easier by naming off more things and then waiting for me to decide, because it will take either too long for me to do so or will cause further frustration within me. LSE know what to eat when, because they have Si in their ego block and have a very good touch with their idea of good food or sensations so all they do is lead and I follow with that regard.

    SLE are not crude, mean, rude or harmful people; all this BS that goes on around here really pisses me off sometimes. Simply, that our ways of thinking do not click or compliment one another. Just simply that.

    If people choose to be mean, it is due to them either seeking to entertain themselves or others, but by no means I think it is tied to type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    See where the conflict comes in with me and SLE?

    I am confused enough by my own internal sensations, they don't make the matter easier by naming off more things and then waiting for me to decide, because it will take either too long for me to do so or will cause further frustration within me. LSE know what to eat when, because they have Si in their ego block and have a very good touch with their idea of good food or sensations so all they do is lead and I follow with that regard.

    SLE are not crude, mean, rude or harmful people; all this BS that goes on around here really pisses me off sometimes. Simply, that our ways of thinking do not click or compliment one another. Just simply that.

    If people choose to be mean, it is due to them either seeking to entertain themselves or others, but by no means I think it is tied to type.
    agreed.
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