Whoo, Korea 2 Greece 0
Anyways...
How do you Ti-seekers recognize it in others? (scratching my head on this one) How does it make you feel?
Whoo, Korea 2 Greece 0
Anyways...
How do you Ti-seekers recognize it in others? (scratching my head on this one) How does it make you feel?
Haha Korea qualified wtf?
USA DREW with the UK WTF!?!?!? US are meant to be SHIT!
(ETA) FTR, I've never really understood this one either, especially in IEIs. Like the Se-seeking is REALLY obvious But it's hard to tell how they seek Ti? (I'd also be interested to see how EIEs believe they seek Ti.)
Jessica & Silverchris- I agree.
Starfall- Wow, great example!
Yes, I do agree being clean is not my natural tendency- I feel as it is more of a responsibility more than anything (when someone new is coming over for the first time, guests over, etc.,). However, when I actually do clean, I have an ocd way of cleaning, like the picture above.
And ditto as well with my SLE friend.
They both played well! Though I think US got slightly lucky and dodged a bullet against England...heh
Here's the wikisocion definition of how LSIs use Ti:
LSIs have a strong command of how various systems, structures, and hierarchies around them work, and always have a clear idea of how to implement them and improve them. LSIs quickly and easily determine what is correct and incorrect according to the systems they are familiar with.
LSIs tend to logically analyze just about everything — even close relationships. LSIs view their partners and other members of their household as part of a system which should have a certain structure and order to it. Everything in this system should run like clockwork — scheduling, daily routines, responsibilities in the relationship, and household management.
LSIs seek to attain an important role in an important system and to maintain and perfect it — often becoming the guardian or watchdog of the system.
LSIs do not often think about the ethics of the systems they maintain. Instead, they discuss the ethics of other systems using the language and customs of their own systems as truth, and make value judgments accordingly.
This definition makes me feel like a freakin' robot or something (Terminator, anyone? lol)
EIE's or anyone else, can you relate?
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I hope North Korea gets to the semi-finals. North Korea.
I like the way LSI moves things. Even after a long drinking night the place in the morning looked so "in order"... Here is the picture
I was amazed when I woke up in the morning and saw the way he put those wine glasses and all the other things in the room. And LSI does this naturally without any big effort.
Sincerely Yours,
Beyond the clouds. Beyond the sun.
The Rebel without a cause.
Sarinina, that would be more like LSE; LSI apparments are not that clean and neat. LSE like to reduce and make their surroundings efficient so that not a lot of energy is invested in useless and aimless tasks. It is all emphasis and concentration on Si, to experience feel good sensations and not clutter; I know because that's what I need or that's what I need to feel good inside.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Emailed Spencer, his response:
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Hi Peter,
Ti is essentially a grasping for 'how things work'. Since the LII and LSI both share Ti in their ego its a good place to start by comparing these types. Whilst the LII analyst goes into t a deep philosophical level of understanding the LSI inspector "keeps it simpler" with a realistic level of understanding.
The LII naturally understands the 'big picture' whilst the LSI naturally understands the 'immediate picture' of things. This would explain for example, why an LSI would make a good plumber or heating engineer, and the LII would prefer uncovering how the social world works in its entirety.
If you've read all the above then you'll notice that Ti is present as it is one long discussion that attempts 'to understand' the subject. Ti is little more than an attempt to understand how things work to the point that reality can be seen as a 'playground' to be manipulated.
Hope this helps,
Spencer
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True that, "Keep it simple stupid" is how I approach a lot of things.
This part is really way too extreme. I wouldn't trust it to the letter.Originally Posted by wikisocion