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    Last edited by Rubicon; 06-11-2010 at 05:00 PM.
    "Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."

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    What information from the video gives it away for you?

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    Last edited by Rubicon; 06-12-2010 at 12:26 AM. Reason: ridiculous content
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicon View Post
    Ahhh oh just my impression.. She seems to equate indirectness with dishonesty,
    Yeah, it's that clear understanding so that proper communication take place thing. Silverchris wrote about this extensively...so did RYU at one point.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/628934-post83.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicon View Post
    she doesn't seem to think that the way she is/ the way she comes across is within her control, the talk about going by instinct/keeping herself always open to possibilities (2nd video), the look at 1:49 :-p etc
    Se PoLR looking down and away from the interviewer a lot kinda gives this away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Yeah, it's that clear understanding so that proper communication take place thing
    Yeah, I edited my post though :-p .. To me, it's like she understands but wants Parkinson to state things explicity for the sake of it regardless.
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    I like her Si. ESFj makes the most sense, Fe/Ti really sticks out. They look like they're in a cave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    ESFj makes the most sense, Fe/Ti really sticks out.
    yes.

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    First thing that struck me was Fe ego and E3, probably sx/so variant. I can see resemblance to an ESE-Si I knew in high school, although she was a 2.

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    I doubt all ESEs are extremely outgoing or bubbly.

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    Somehow I just knew that was coming...

    Do you know what Merry/Serious is about? It's not about two quadras being giddy and emotional and the other two being subdued, but rather whether or not the quadra and its members are sensitive to the particular emotional states of an atmosphere, or the emotional tenor of interaction between people. Serious quadras regard emotions as something to be deprioritized in favor of clarity in communication, whereas Merry quadras are attentive to emotional nuances and seek to inhabit, govern, and influence them as a primary subjective source of fulfillment.

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    Funny, she reminds me of Lady Gaga. She's not quite as childish and irksome, though; she seems more mature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Imo SEI is more likely than ESE, for different reasons.
    lol awesome.. I deleted my previous comments because I started to think she was my type

    She seems all Alpha Fe in this interview imo:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    I'll watch this, I watched some where she's older and at the first glance I'd have said ESE (so when she's older), but there are many-many details against that IMO, including the fact that she's unplanned and without an opinion about the future, she swears, she mocked this title of "Dame" blah-blah. ESEs say crazy things from time to time, but overall (at least the ones I know) they use to stick to some behavioural rules especially as a public person.

    Then there's this thing: ESE's believe in something and they're convinced that they're on the good way, they have an attitude of sufficiency and use to advise people what's good and what was good in what they did, tell advices, talk about optimism, goals, ideals & stuff - I'm thinking about 25-30+. Maybe this is one of the great differences, ESEs are optimistic but for SEIs life just goes on, as far as an observer can tell.
    So overall, ESEs are more pushy, opinionated, dramatic - well watch Shirley Bassey for a standard . (who says that she is not an ESE will die by my hands). Not saying that all ESEs are that coquettish - I know a "type" with a more natural look, still not totally natural (by my standards, I suppose).

    Anyway, there's this similarity, that strikes me, between her and some SEIs I know, in gestures, gaze, faces. They are the kind I know as the Fe subtype.
    Mm yeah.. compared to Shirley Bassey, I see what you mean. The things Helen says in her early interviews seem rather intuitivey though imo.. but you never know with Fe-creatives. We speak a lot of rubbish/adopt and discard various philosophies easily I think. :redface:
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    a Ni type.

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