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    Have you ever met an IEI who's not an E4? What other enneagram types are possible/likely for IEI's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Have you ever met an IEI who's not an E4? What other enneagram types are possible/likely for IEI's?
    e9 apparently, but i think they're isfps.

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    I'm a 6.

    4, 6, or 9. Even some 1s or 2s or 5s. It's not really all that correlated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    e9 apparently, but i think they're isfps.
    LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    I'm a 6.

    4, 6, or 9. Even some 1s or 2s or 5s. It's not really all that correlated.
    E9 seems possible? E6... idk. I'm not doubting you, but I've had bad experiences with Fi valuing E6's, and I'm not sure what a Fe valuing E6 would even look like.

    I can sort of see an E5 IEI, but at the same time I'd feel like they just need to be helped out of their shell. IEI E1 or E2? That sounds even more like neurosis. I could sort of see an E3 IEI though, as odd as an E3 IP sounds. But at the same time, maybe they'd just need to calm down.

    I guess to me the E4/IEI combination is one of the strongest of the Socionics/Enneagram correlations. It's right up there with E5/INTx and E9/Si dominant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    E9 seems possible? E6... idk. I'm not doubting you, but I've had bad experiences with Fi valuing E6's, and I'm not sure what a Fe valuing E6 would even look like.
    There are E6 ESEs and EIEs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiss View Post
    There are E6 ESEs and EIEs.
    I could totally see that. Weak and scary all in one pretty package. But whatever.
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    3, 4, might be a 5 out there, 6, 9

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    4, 9, 6, 5

    2? probably not.

    imo.

    yeah, mostly 4s.
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    There are definitely IEI 3s. ScarlettLux is one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    There are definitely IEI 3s. ScarlettLux is one of them.
    oh yeah, I forgot 3s. Fe-sub 3s. yup.
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    Ni subs, too. Did you ever meet Anielka/Sycophant/Sara?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Ni subs, too. Did you ever meet Anielka/Sycophant/Sara?
    No I don't remember that person. interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    No I don't remember that person. interesting.
    Consider yourself blessed, lol.
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    Funny, how you incorrectly think you're her dual.

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    I thought I was a three for a minute there. Still not positive that I'm 4w3 over 3w4. Definitely some IEI 5s. I could've been a five, or at least a five wing, but I think my wing switched over time, or developmentally I took a different path. But now that I think about it, it was always motivated by my desire to not be "beneath" other people, which I relate to the idea of envy with 4s. I just decided that a better way to prove I'm not beneath people is to go out and beat them at everything rather than to withdraw from the world and pretend that they don't exist!

    Anyway, I'd say, enneagram types for IEIs:

    Most likely: 4, 9
    Moderately likely: 3, 5, 6, 7
    Unlikely: 1, 2, 8
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

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    I'd say:

    Most common: 4
    Common: 3, 6, 9
    Rare: 5, 7, 2
    Very rare/nonexistant: 1, 8

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    I've never seen a Three IEI in real life. I don't believe it's possible. I think if we all got to know Annie properly, in real life, we'd see that she was either not a Three or not an IEI. I'm more inclined to say that she's not a Three, but I could be happy with EIE.

    I've seen IEIs who could be Nines or Sevens on the surface, but once you get to know them, no chance.

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    Well 4w3s can have similar surface characteristics to 7s, especially so/sx or sx/so subtypes: hedonism, extroversion, distinctive appearance, etc. But I think most of the core traits tend to correlate better to 4.

    I am fairly certain that IEI 3s exist. I can't think of a stack of them off the top of my head, but I've certainly encountered people for whom it was certainly the most suitable typing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Well 4w3s can have similar surface characteristics to 7s, especially so/sx or sx/so subtypes: hedonism, extroversion, distinctive appearance, etc. But I think most of the core traits tend to correlate better to 4.
    This has been my observation as well.
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    Well la de fucking da.

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    What type is Joy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratXII View Post
    What type is Joy?
    She considers herself SLE. Gilly, DJ, and some others strongly disagree. I don't particularly care, but she seems like a cool person. Hardly surprising (from internet persona) that her and DJ didn't quite work out.

    EDIT: Oh, not to say that DJ isn't a nice person, just you can tell how the wouldn't have gotten along, I think.
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    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    She considers herself SLE. Gilly, DJ, and some others strongly disagree. I don't particularly care, but she seems like a cool person. Hardly surprising (from internet persona) that her and DJ didn't quite work out.
    She is certainly Se; her descriptions of Se experiances are very telling; how can anyone disagree? She can describe the objects features/character/looks very well even in here...

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/655822-post6.html

    See this post tells it all

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/655927-post37.html

    Redbaron goes crazy for Se so there is no mistaking that they are very attracted to each other's functions.
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Redbaron goes crazy for Se so there is no mistaking that they are very attracted to each other's functions.
    IEI-Fe 4w3

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    Come on IEI 9? How? I think they can appear like 9s but not underneath. 9 isn't that beta.
    IEI, sp/sx 4w3.

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    hi dinki
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinki View Post
    Come on IEI 9? How? I think they can appear like 9s but not underneath. 9 isn't that beta.
    more like gamma
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    If I had to guess, I would guess that sigma is an IEI 9. I don't know what he considers himself, though.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    hi dinki
    redbaron !

    Haha !
    IEI, sp/sx 4w3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    If I had to guess, I would guess that sigma is an IEI 9. I don't know what he considers himself, though.
    I think that's all the eastern philosophy ^-^. I'm still not convinced silerchris ...
    IEI, sp/sx 4w3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinki View Post
    I think that's all the eastern philosophy ^-^. I'm still not convinced silerchris ...
    I'm not convinced; that's just what it seems like from my knee-jerk reaction. But yeah, the philosophy definitely has something to do with it.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

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    I can sort of see an E5 IEI, but at the same time I'd feel like they just need to be helped out of their shell. IEI E1 or E2? That sounds even more like neurosis. I could sort of see an E3 IEI though, as odd as an E3 IP sounds. But at the same time, maybe they'd just need to calm down.
    It's not really all that odd. People just don't follow neat patterns like that. A 3 infp doesn't really sound that odd at all. Some 3s get mistyped as 4s cause both types tend to be overly-focused on identity and image. And when unhealthy, both 3s and 4s suffer from narcissism.

    I agree with Gilly pretty much. 1, 7, 8 for an INFp is probably a no-go but I see any other type as plausible with of course some correlations more common then others.

    I can easily see an INFp Fe subtype as a 2. Not so much a Ni one though.

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    Come on IEI 9? How? I think they can appear like 9s but not underneath. 9 isn't that beta.
    Why are you trying to connect the dots when the dots can't really be connected? Enneagram and socionics are two very different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Why are you trying to connect the dots when the dots can't really be connected? Enneagram and socionics are two very different things.
    You just made correlations. Where did your reasoning come from for an IEI being a 9?
    IEI, sp/sx 4w3.

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    Personally, I feel that you could get confused about Fives and Nines being IEI, but that all types besides Four are basically out of bounds if you have any real life experience. Six I'm in a kind of pendulum state of mind about - I'm not so sure.

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    Ok, I'm just going to drop the hammer once and for all. The enneatypes I have specifically known IEIs to be, via real life experience, are 3, 4, 6, and 9.

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    zomg, there's a hammer on the ground!
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    I believe IEI's are often 5w4's
    The end is nigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    I believe IEI's are often 5w4's
    Interesting. Doesn't an Ethical 5 seem sort of oxymoronic?

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    Nah, look at crazedrat
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