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    This is brilliant news. It means Lib Dems and Labour are now entering into formal talks, which means Cameron and his band of Thatcherites is truly fucked.

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    I really couldn't imagine Lib Dem forming a coalition with Tory, but then a coalition with labour is still a minority party, afaik even the traditional parties that ally with labour still wouldn't make it overall. Dunno what's gonna happen.

    Maybe they'll still end up reaching a deal with conservative after all, afaik Liberals were secretly having talks with labour over weekend too, so dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    This is brilliant news. It means Lib Dems and Labour are now entering into formal talks, which means Cameron and his band of Thatcherites is truly fucked.
    Basic Economics: A Common Sense Guide to the Economy: Amazon.co.uk: Thomas Sowell: Books

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    I love the term 'common sense.'
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    Ezra, I seriously want you to read that book. It's not just an idle suggestion, I want you to actually buy and read it. I swear to god it will clear up so many of your misconceptions about economics and politics.

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    In fact I'm so certain that it will help you that if, after you've read it, you think it was a waste of money, I will actually reimburse you the cost of the book plus shipping costs via paypal.

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    The people should just bust into parliament and run the show. Off with the Queen's heads.
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    The Liberal Dems are apparently so angry with Tony Blair (thanks to Iraq!) that they are determined to destroy Labour for what they think it represents: acquiescence to foreign hegemony. They actually want to merge the two parties, but under the condition that the Labour side submit to the Liberal Dem philosophy of governance. It's the social progressives and liberals taking back the Left from the anti-feudalists. Personally I think they should divest at least some of the prime minister's duties to the president. I don't see the reason why there cannot be separate offices for the head of state and head of government, with neither obligated to the other.

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    I know nothing about labour's policies. But they brutally invaded and subjugated Iraq, which makes them enemies. And enemies deserve no sympathy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    The people should just bust into parliament and run the show. Off with the Queen's heads.
    Yes, because Napoleon wouldn't step in to assume power in such a scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Yes, because Napoleon wouldn't step in to assume power in such a scenario.
    Napoleon is my hero. EPs (particularly Ti creatives) know how to bend ideology to their needs. We're the best at exploiting opportunities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Napoleon is my hero. EPs (particularly Ti creatives) know how to bend ideology to their needs. We're the best at exploiting opportunities.
    I think Napoleon was LIE, but that's not relevant.

    What is relevant is that Napoleon was a despot who came to power amidst the political anarchy of the French Revolution, and who sent all of Europe into a series of devastating military disasters.

    If you're going to revolt, you ought to follow the advice of Edmund Burke and do so only if with the idea of creating a strong society and a stable government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I think Napoleon was LIE, but that's not relevant.

    What is relevant is that Napoleon was a despot who came to power amidst the political anarchy of the French Revolution, and who sent all of Europe into a series of devastating military disasters.

    If you're going to revolt, you ought to follow the advice of Edmund Burke and do so only if with the idea of creating a strong society and a stable government.
    France was strong under Napoleon, who led them to one victory after another. And he was supreme authority as emperor so it was stable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    France was strong under Napoleon, who led them to one victory after another. And he was supreme authority as emperor so it was stable.
    Germany was strong under Hitler, who led them to one victory after another. And he was supreme authority as chancellor so it was stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    The Liberal Dems are apparently so angry with Tony Blair (thanks to Iraq!) that they are determined to destroy Labour for what they think it represents: acquiescence to foreign hegemony. They actually want to merge the two parties, but under the condition that the Labour side submit to the Liberal Dem philosophy of governance. It's the social progressives and liberals taking back the Left from the anti-feudalists. Personally I think they should divest at least some of the prime minister's duties to the president. I don't see the reason why there cannot be separate offices for the head of state and head of government, with neither obligated to the other.
    We don't have a president. The head of state is the Queen and that's unlikeley to change anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somavision View Post
    We don't have a president. The head of state is the Queen and that's unlikeley to change anytime soon.
    It cracks me up how the queen is head of state of Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Germany was strong under Hitler, who led them to one victory after another. And he was supreme authority as chancellor so it was stable.
    And for that, I raise my glass to him. Although Napoleon > Hitler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    And for that, I raise my glass to him. Although Napoleon > Hitler.
    You seem to lack common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    You seem to lack common sense.
    Common sense means nothing in the face of power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Common sense means nothing in the face of power.
    Platitudes mean nothing in the face of reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Platitudes mean nothing in the face of reality.
    Ah, but power is reality.
    You can do anything with a bayonet except sit on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    It cracks me up how the queen is head of state of Canada.
    yeah me too. On a similar note, have you seen this? Prince Philip Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Ah, but power is reality.
    So is leading a country to ruin.

    Quote Originally Posted by somavision View Post
    yeah me too. On a similar note, have you seen this? Prince Philip Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    So is leading a country to ruin.
    Nothing lasts forever, not success nor failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Nothing lasts forever, not success nor failure.
    Then every kind of act is justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Then every kind of act is justified.
    Or unjustified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Or unjustified.
    That doesn't make sense. Now you're just being silly because you know I am correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    That doesn't make sense. Now you're just being silly because you know I am correct.
    Why not? Suicide maybe the most justified course of action, even if it's almost as unjustified as everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Why not? Suicide maybe the most justified course of action, even if it's almost as unjustified as everything else.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    In fact I'm so certain that it will help you that if, after you've read it, you think it was a waste of money, I will actually reimburse you the cost of the book plus shipping costs via paypal.
    I'll buy it for myself as an end of exams present on 3rd June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I'll buy it for myself as an end of exams present on 3rd June.
    Excellent.

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    Pezzy, what's your area of concentration?

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    And Cameron becomes the new prime minister.

    There is a question of how this happened, whether the Liberal Dems agreed to caucus with Cameron or not. I suspect the Liberal Dems are being used, and that they will be discarded within a few months. Cameron smells blood.

    If the Queen made it happen herself, it will probably be the beginning of the end of her power in that regard.

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