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    Default VI this friend of mine (and I know exactly what type he is)

    don't quote pics please.
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    ESTp

    sorry my love, I am really fast at VI..
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    ESTp

    sorry my love, I am really fast at VI..
    close!
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    Is that sword big enough to kill a bear ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    close!
    AHHH; ISTj but I don't have a side picture the two have the same anatomical morphological shapes from face forward shots.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    He's a total and complete slam-dunk ENTp! He's great, the Ne just seriously FLOWS out of this guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    He's a total and complete slam-dunk ENTp! He's great, the Ne just seriously FLOWS out of this guy.
    No way not a chance, I think he is ESTp; what is Ne to you and how do you describe what you see?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    He's a total and complete slam-dunk ENTp! He's great, the Ne just seriously FLOWS out of this guy.
    I was thinking ENTp at first, but then started thinking LII. It's hard to read the body language of posed photos. However, the sword in the first photo was a dead giveaway for Alpha NT. I can't think of any other types that have quite the same love for such a romantic and impractical weapon.
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    He's also very versatile when it comes to how he looks like.

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    he's ALL OVER THE PLACE with his interests and direction in life. He's 40 and still doesn't know what he wants to "be" when he grows up. The random connections he makes in his posts on facebook are... hilarious and great but completely without focus. He also has a hard time keeping his weight in check, talks about food and needing to eat healthier but has such a hard time doing it. He also tries to garden and clearly values it. Loves nature and the outdoors. Loves music, played in a band for many years. Really wants to be married but can't seem to make it work. Seems to either over or under estimate the closeness of his relationships. But in a most charming way. Writes books, publishes them himself, collects stories, sees all the possibilities in people and projects. Can't seem to commit himself or focus on one thing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    he's ALL OVER THE PLACE with his interests and direction in life. He's 40 and still doesn't know what he wants to "be" when he grows up. The random connections he makes in his posts on facebook are... hilarious and great but completely without focus. He also has a hard time keeping his weight in check, talks about food and needing to eat healthier but has such a hard time doing it. He also tries to garden and clearly values it. Loves nature and the outdoors. Loves music, played in a band for many years. Really wants to be married but can't seem to make it work. Seems to either over or under estimate the closeness of his relationships. But in a most charming way. Writes books, publishes them himself, collects stories, sees all the possibilities in people and projects. Can't seem to commit himself or focus on one thing!
    ESTp honey; that's not ENTp look at Blaze's and Jxtre's posts of ILE. ILE are usually thin and have a hard time building muscle.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    He's also very versatile when it comes to how he looks like.
    a couple of those pics were OLD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    ESTp honey; that's not ENTp look at Blaze's and Jxtre's posts of ILE. ILE are usually thin and have a hard time building muscle.
    Okay well what do the ILEs think??
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    Okay well what do the ILEs think??
    Ask Blaze
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    ha your friend's pix were morphing before my very eyes. wow.

    well at first i thought LII. but if he is that random, he's gotta be ILE.

    don't think he's SLE....don't think SLE would be caught dead with a sword unless it was the real thing and they were training to use it to kill you. lol

    sounds like his dual seeking isn't being met. is he in a relationship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    ha your friend's pix were morphing before my very eyes. wow.

    well at first i thought LII. but if he is that random, he's gotta be ILE.

    don't think he's SLE....don't think SLE would be caught dead with a sword unless it was the real thing and they were training to use it to kill you. lol

    sounds like his dual seeking isn't being met. is he in a relationship?
    Random is not always attributed to ILE. Anyone can be random...
    Maybe he is SLE with ADD?
    ILE wouldn't be caught dead with a sword right?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    he's not embarrassed by much. He's NOT in a relationship (I don't think he's ever had a really serious girlfriend) and isn't dualized as far as I know.

    He asked me out in college.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    he's ALL OVER THE PLACE with his interests and direction in life. He's 40 and still doesn't know what he wants to "be" when he grows up. The random connections he makes in his posts on facebook are... hilarious and great but completely without focus. He also has a hard time keeping his weight in check, talks about food and needing to eat healthier but has such a hard time doing it. He also tries to garden and clearly values it. Loves nature and the outdoors. Loves music, played in a band for many years. Really wants to be married but can't seem to make it work. Seems to either over or under estimate the closeness of his relationships. But in a most charming way. Writes books, publishes them himself, collects stories, sees all the possibilities in people and projects. Can't seem to commit himself or focus on one thing!
    he sounds boring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    ISTp like marshal arts too.
    This is true (I think Chuck Norris, for example, may be ISTp), but they're not as likely, in my opinion, to see the sword in so romantic a light as to strike a dashing pose with one for a photograph. To a martially-inclined Delta ST, a sword is firstly a tool. For a martially-inclined Alpha NT, a sword is firstly a symbol (of knightly honour, chivalry, courage, etc.).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    I'm actually curious what other alpha NTs think about this. I don't relate at all, for me those things mean rather security, freedom, power, maybe adventures.
    I suspect the sword will symbolize slightly different things to different Alpha NTs, yes. My point was that, for Alpha NTs, the symbolism is usually what attracts them to swords, while for Delta STs, it's the sword's utility as a tool that attracts them (and in the modern era where the sword is largely impractical as a tool of battle -- especially the European knightly variety shown in the photograph in question -- this means that fewer Delta STs will be be attracted to swords).

    In practical terms, yes, I agree, the spear is generally superior to the sword, due to its greater reach. The further away you can kill your enemy, the better.
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    To me swords mean half damage against undead.
    And that's no good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    I'm actually curious what other alpha NTs think about this. I don't relate at all, for me those things mean rather security, freedom, power, maybe adventures. Contest is something different, I have a very non-standard look at medieval weapons, I personally don't consider the sword the best weapon and I tend to trust more thrusting weapons: spear, javelin, crossbow, especially bow and arrows (depends on the scenario). In general I'm fascinated about fights between different kinds of weapons, not sword vs sword or axe vs axe, but totally different, eg spear vs sword.
    I kind of hear ya on liking to see people fighting with different weapons. The cool thing about same weapons is you can start to see a lot more nuance and individual flavor rather than the more distinct tactical advantages of one weapon over another.









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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    he's not embarrassed by much. He's NOT in a relationship (I don't think he's ever had a really serious girlfriend) and isn't dualized as far as I know.

    He asked me out in college.
    oh too bad. i have this theory that people will tend to rigidify in their conscious elements if they don't get in a lasting relationship. i've seen it happen. my brother almost imploded until he found ESE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    oh too bad. i have this theory that people will tend to rigidify in their conscious elements if they don't get in a lasting relationship. i've seen it happen. my brother almost imploded until he found ESE.
    yeah I fear it's really happening with this guy.

    funny the turn this thread has taken regarding weaponry! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    yeah I fear it's really happening with this guy.

    funny the turn this thread has taken regarding weaponry! lol
    yeah. almost like he's using conscious Se to unconsciously develop Si. i think you should introduce him to an SEI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    yeah. almost like he's using conscious Se to unconsciously develop Si. i think you should introduce him to an SEI.
    I know! And I think I know one too only their paths would never cross and I'm trying to figure out how to introduce them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    It's Krig's fault, cause he said we like symbols, lol! Btw, what about that guy, as long as he's probably an ILE? Does The Sword (or something else like this) mean something, more than a sword or a cool stuff?
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    I had to google it; I hadn't even heard of it. I used to be more of a gamer than I am now -- it kind of goes in cycles, like all of my interests. Right now I'm more into Medieval II: Total War, but I haven't played it in a couple of months.
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    ENFj. I don't know why this hasn't been proposed yet.

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