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    Some members on the forum appear to very clearly fall into a certain type. There is little debate on the persons type and if there is debate, the vast majority votes on a certain type with maybe only a couple of dissenters. For example, I think its rather clear Mariella is IEE.

    Other members, are constantly getting their types challenged and there is no general consensus as to their type. Maybe these people are trying to be someone they're not, demonstrate very poor self-awareness, or not telling the whole story. But then again, maybe they are honest about themselves and are just simply hard to type.

    So just out of curiosity, which members here do you find to be clear-cut examples of a particular socionics type, and which ones seem to be un-pigeonhole-able?

    And just out of curiosity, where would I fall on this pigeonhole-ability scale?
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    I would say yes. . .based on the videos I saw.

    How about me?


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    Unless there is a Socionics related reason, I'm not going to have the confidence to type someone or pigeon hole, no matter what tons of others say about their type, and what they chose to subconsciously attribute or lack speaking about. I mean it's the internet for heavens sake. People will act differently than they do in real life, so easily. So I'm on the fence but leaning towards saying it depends per opinion. As for me, I don't assume all that easily types for people online. I'm not one of those to act like I really know a person through the internet. I have some friends who I spend time with in real life who I can pigeon whole if I wanted to, and could feel momentary pleasure doing. It's not to say that I might easily say that someone does not at all come across like the type they type themselves as, as I say that sometimes on here.

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    older members (i mean, age-wise)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    older members (i mean, age-wise)
    I agree with this.

    Blaze (ILE)
    Mariella (IEE)
    Cyrano (SLI)
    myself (IEI, altho EIE has recently been tossed around)
    there are others I'm sure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    I find you hard to type indeed, WL. There are numerous examples of typical types on the forum, imo, too many to enumerate.

    About you, I considered: LII, ILE, LSI and EII. Not even now I don't know for sure, except that I incline to think EII - looks like Ij, Ne but not LII. In addition I find you similar to Huggin, which I type as EII, but she types as LII as well.

    Note that I know at least two LII females in real life that I can think of, so it's not that I can't comprehend how a female of this type would behave, or something - I posted pictures with one at one point. They're more like "wait, wait, wait! sit down and explain me" when I have a different opinion than theirs, but it appears to me that you and Huggin are avoiding exactly such things, to pull out a clarification from people, it's like you're following something obscure.

    Considering my doubts, I don't totally exclude LII for both of you, although at least in her case I highly-highly doubt it, especially since she showed clear Fi values with several occasions. I can't say that about you, you're more formal and don't talk too much about your general preferences, nor you take side with some forum party it seems.
    I couldn't work in a Library, away from the human element. I would rather teach something highly intellectual and stimulating. I don't have a very good feeling of her type yet, but she doesn't display any concern for relations with people. She is much more of a Thinker.

    If an EII knew nothing about this forum and joined on, she being technologically challenged, would be more incline to post pictures of herself rather then offer a video. Why do you think I have been unable to do so thus far?

    I reasonably estimate that an new EII would find and feel for people who were very kind, because we can't stand to be around rudeness, harshness, violence (obviously), and other nuances. We would strive to connect with individuals by complimenting them on stuff to get a feel for the person and how they responded back to us.

    We would feel who wanted to establish bonds with us and who we would establish bonds with.

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    What libraries have you been in where the librarians work "away from the human element", Martisa? Who do you think they help to get books? I think those who work in classification areas are more likely to be Ti types, but I could see an EII working at a library because they like to help people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    Some members on the forum appear to very clearly fall into a certain type. There is little debate on the persons type and if there is debate, the vast majority votes on a certain type with maybe only a couple of dissenters. For example, I think its rather clear Mariella is IEE.

    Other members, are constantly getting their types challenged and there is no general consensus as to their type. Maybe these people are trying to be someone they're not, demonstrate very poor self-awareness, or not telling the whole story. But then again, maybe they are honest about themselves and are just simply hard to type.
    There is usually no reason why someone would be intrinsically more difficult to type. It just depends on the type-er's past experience and knowledge.

    The reason why it appears to be like this is that most people here type using the "groupthink" method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    I never considered you EII, too. Btw, do you remember what I typed you?
    How about try to see the individual that I am rather then what you think INFj is. I have offered a lot of information about me and how I conduct relations with people. Fi is ethics of relationships. See, our dual is a tech wizz..

    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=LSE

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    We go shopping and I recognize the Ne features of technology and go "look honey, cooollll!!!" and they go "it's a waste of space". Don't we work great together?

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    I think I'm pretty obvious and I'm only 19 (I wrote 18 first. apparently I don't want to accept that I'm 19. Stupid youth-obsessed culture). Strrrng is another obvious one. I'm sure someone shouted ISTj once because so many of his posts are logical arguments, but his type seemed clear from all the posts I read. Controversial people (i.e., Maritsa) are more likely to have their type questioned not because they are or are not clear representatives of a given type, but because they're controversial.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    I find you hard to type indeed, WL. There are numerous examples of typical types on the forum, imo, too many to enumerate.

    About you, I considered: LII, ILE, LSI and EII. Not even now I don't know for sure, except that I incline to think EII - looks like Ij, Ne but not LII. In addition I find you similar to Huggin, which I type as EII, but she types as LII as well.
    LSI??? That's a new one. That's one type I know I'm not. I don't relate to beta quadra agenda, don't have creative, certainly don't have PoLR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Note that I know at least two LII females in real life that I can think of, so it's not that I can't comprehend how a female of this type would behave, or something - I posted pictures with one at one point. They're more like "wait, wait, wait! sit down and explain me" when I have a different opinion than theirs, but it appears to me that you and Huggin are avoiding exactly such things, to pull out a clarification from people, it's like you're following something obscure.
    Please clarify here. How am following something obscure? Examples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post

    I reasonably estimate that an new EII would find and feel for people who were very kind, because we can't stand to be around rudeness, harshness, violence (obviously), and other nuances. We would strive to connect with individuals by complimenting them on stuff to get a feel for the person and how they responded back to us.

    We would feel who wanted to establish bonds with us and who we would establish bonds with.
    I'm an LII and I can't stand to be around rudeness, harshness, or violence either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariella View Post
    What libraries have you been in where the librarians work "away from the human element", Martisa? Who do you think they help to get books? I think those who work in classification areas are more likely to be Ti types, but I could see an EII working at a library because they like to help people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    The reason why it appears to be like this is that most people here type using the "groupthink" method.
    I agree...oh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    LSI??? That's a new one. That's one type I know I'm not. I don't relate to beta quadra agenda, don't have creative, certainly don't have PoLR.
    His understanding of the IE's is not connected to actual Model A, which is probably why he has most of the forum mistyped and why he types himself as an Ne dominant
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    Rock solid forum typings don't mean much, it's an illusion.

    There's plenty of them that have changed. Diana, used to be ESI, Joy used to be LIE, Tereg used to be IEE.

    If I was to say people who's types tend to get more accepted, it's generally either those who've been here since before almost anyone else, and also, a trend i've noticed is among those who don't say anything controversial.

    Controversiality seems to be somewhat important factor in getting your type queried, no matter what type that is.

    Anyway, benchmark typings like above change, even if they happen to be correct typings, it's just one example of potentially 1/16th of population.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marie84
    His understanding of the IE's is not connected to actual Model A, which is probably why he has most of the forum mistyped and why he types himself as an Ne dominant
    I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, Jung didn't spot the phenomena of leading functions with Model A, and afaik Ashura came up with Model A after observing the functions herself. It's just a model, model A or any model isn't the egg coming before the chicken for socionics.

    Anyway, a while back he posted descriptions of himself irl, he matched extravert and leading Ne type pretty well.

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    His understanding of the IE's is not connected to actual Model A, which is probably why he has most of the forum mistyped and why he types himself as an Ne dominant
    He's probably an INFp or something. Ready to confront but hopelessly ineffective at making an impact beyond initiating the fight. The only effect he ever acheives is to raise a sense of the comedial.

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    I agree that us old farts seem to be the most consistent in how our personality displays over the forum (making us seem to be the most "solid" type-wise). At the same time I think that us old farts are the most likely to have a "what-ever" attitude towards it all. not to offend any of the younger folks, but I think that it's a matter of us being over the whole search for identity thing. we are who we are and type to us may be an interesting way to view ourselves, but not have any effect on how we define ourselves. (ehhh stoned, hope that was a halfway clear statement)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, Jung didn't spot the phenomena of leading functions with Model A, and afaik Ashura came up with Model A after observing the functions herself. It's just a model, model A or any model isn't the egg coming before the chicken for socionics.

    Anyway, a while back he posted descriptions of himself irl, he matched extravert and leading Ne type pretty well.
    I agree with this. . .I see socionics as simply a way to describe observed interactions. I.e. putting human interactions into a formula (and the premise that that can be done--and to an extent it can). It's an empirical science.
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    I'd not talk in the name of everybody if I was you.
    This is one of those times when it's perfectly safe to do so. There is not a person on the forum whom escapes the realization that you are insane upon seeing you type Arctures and ArchonAlarion as ISTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    The only reason you're still standing is cause the forum prohibits rotten egg barrages.
    I thought it was because of Maritsa?

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    I tend to focus on the Deltas, but I find these fine folks very consistant:

    Cyclops
    Warrior Librarian
    Jewels
    WorkaholicsAnon
    SoapOfSapphire
    Gul (Brian)
    Disco Joe
    Mariella
    Mariella's ISTp Husband
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    I'd not talk in the name of everybody if I was you. You come off as a clown for everyone who does not have the same opinion. Projecting onto everyone is a kinda dangerous toy, my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    no u
    god I never get tired of that response

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    I don't feel completely comfortable making definite typings via the Internet but there are a few people that I see as having a solid understanding of what they're talking about and/or haven't given a reason to think they're mistyped. Some that stand out atm (IMO of course...)

    Krigtheviking- LII
    Minde, tereg- EII
    Mariella, Rick- IEE
    Forcemyhand- SLI
    Ryu- LSE
    Ezra- SLE
    Expat- LIE
    Niffweed- ILI
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    If I had to benchmark:

    JRiddy - ILE
    Krig the Viking or Brilliand - LII
    Maliafae - ESE
    Rubicon - SEI

    No preference - SLE
    Jimbean - LSI
    Starfall or Strrrng - IEI
    No preference - EIE

    Khamelion - SEE
    Bardia - ESI
    FDG - LIE
    Maybe Jarno - ILI

    look.to.the.sky - IEE
    Minde - EII
    forcemyhand - SLI
    No preference - LSE
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    God I wish dee was still here and didn't join that underground cult or whatever it was. He was the most self-pigeonholing member in the theory's history. He defied consensus. He defied the royals. He stood up and spat in the face of socionics itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    Maybe going by a simple online persona. Many people cited as 'benchmarks' strike no thought into me and I find the idea that a person portraying themselves through words over the Internet can qualify as anything in that nature to be not very practical among other things. In fact, the idea of being able to classify any human being into a type benchmark is almost offensive. Plenty people I would, if using this mentality, consider pigeon-holeable go against another person's ideas as to how a 'type' should act. I've seen it a number of times here and elsewhere.

    In other words, I find the idea to be false as well as useless and as a potential shabby substitute for others to do the work of learning the theory for what it is worth and being able to observe people they can see in real time and interact with in real time in the real world and not over this pretentious online fantasy world which poorly emulates the sense of actually being around people and so getting a feel about what sort of person one is dealing with.

    But if I were going to use benchmarks, it certainly would not be a single forum entity who resembles little to me but formulated text attached to a username belonging to a vaguely identifiable being.

    I'm not saying this at you or anyone in particular because I doubt most people see it in this way, but I am saying it at the idea that has been and is thrown around that there are benchmarks.

    Summary:

    I think it's a crock of shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
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    I see you are at the right location for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post
    I tend to focus on the Deltas, but I find these fine folks very consistant:

    Cyclops
    Warrior Librarian
    Jewels
    WorkaholicsAnon
    SoapOfSapphire
    Gul (Brian)
    Disco Joe
    Mariella
    Mariella's ISTp Husband
    Bionicgoat
    bobbybeam
    Numbers

    It's silly, but you have no idea how comforted this makes me feel. Thanks friend.
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    Alpha:
    Blaze ILE
    Nowisthetime SEI
    Gul (Brian) SEI
    Brillian LII
    Cracka ESE
    Vero

    Beta:
    Redbaron-waiting on a decision...lol.

    Gamma:
    Dolphin SEE
    Jessica SEE
    Glamourama SEE

    Plynex ILI
    Ragnar ILI
    Jarno ILI

    Delta:
    Ryu LSE
    Airborne LSE
    Rasputin LSE
    Mariella IEE
    Jewels IEE
    DeAnte SLI
    Cyclops SLI -although I have not VI-d him

    There are many people on the journey who will find their way. I will continue to add people as I remember their types.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    How about try to see the individual that I am rather then what you think INFj is. I have offered a lot of information about me and how I conduct relations with people. Fi is ethics of relationships. See, our dual is a tech wizz..

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    While I realize technology, they employ efficient technology. I had my old phone for four years, until my SLI father got sick of it an me for having it and made me get another one....lol I was fine with it. It worked great.

    We go shopping and I recognize the Ne features of technology and go "look honey, cooollll!!!" and they go "it's a waste of space". Don't we work great together?
    they were talking about you not the phone when they said it's a waste of space.

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    WorkaholicsAnon, It's funny that despite being on here for years, it IS comforting when someone also agrees on your type. I mean, I know 100% I'm IEE, but being an IEE, I'm always doubting everything to some extend (maybe because of the Ne), so I do like things to be confirmed. *happy sigh* lol
    Hi! I'm an ENFP. :-)

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