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    Default VI please

    Iīd like to hear opinions.

    although I am quite sure I am EST just donīt know the last letter.

    What I am totally sure about is Iīm an ST type.

    but open to opinions of course.
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    Let's just wait patiently for Maritsa ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Let's just wait patiently for Maritsa ...
    lol... will she 'dualize with me' after seeing my pictures, I wonder...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne View Post
    lol... will she 'dualize with me' after seeing my pictures, I wonder...
    It's going to be even better, I tell you.

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    Delta ST, yeah
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    STj

    I am working on the E/I...a few moments please.
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    Cuban ST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    STj

    I am working on the E/I...a few moments please.
    Huh... I thought for sure he'd be XXXp by your method.

    Anyhow, ISTp is the first thing that comes to mind for these pictures.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    Huh... I thought for sure he'd be XXXp by your method.

    Anyhow, ISTp is the first thing that comes to mind for these pictures.
    His forhead leans back when he is standing.

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    fwiw, he does look like an ISTp I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    His forhead leans back when he is standing.
    I'm surprised you haven't asked for a side pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    I'm surprised you haven't asked for a side pic.
    I can see the characteristic tilt of the J shaped vertebral column from face forward shots by looking at how far forward his trachea is.

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    I'd say you look more ESTj than ESTp in that photo.
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    I think this points more to ESTJ than to ESTP , right?

    what I really donīt get is how you define E/I in socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne View Post
    I think this points more to ESTJ than to ESTP , right?

    what I really donīt get is how you define E/I in socionics.
    Simply, if you dangle an object in front of an E type, their brain is programed to take in it's form wheather that form is shape ( ) or character ( ). So, they will look at it carefully, or snap shot abosorb it.
    Introverts will not focus their eyes on the object will try to absorb and connect it to an internal character or shape of the object hence ( ) or ().

    I look at your eyes in the picture to see if you're looking at the camera or your internal impression of the camera, or your internal impression of your self in that moment

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    interesting.

    I mostly look at the cameras, especially that part which captures the shots, but I understand what you said. I focus on the physical lens of the camera.

    An I type would look at his internal impression of the camera so his eyes would seem a little distant and out of focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne View Post
    I think this points more to ESTJ than to ESTP , right?

    what I really donīt get is how you define E/I in socionics.
    I think Se-valuing from how you describe yourself in other threads.

    E/I : Extraversion and introversion - Wikisocion .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne View Post
    interesting.

    I mostly look at the cameras, especially that part which captures the shots, but I understand what you said. I focus on the physical lens of the camera.

    An I type would look at his internal impression of the camera so his eyes would seem a little distant and out of focus.
    Yes, thank you for explaining what I see-internally. I have been trying to tell people that my dual can read my thought from very few obsure and odd statements that I make, that to others don't seem to make sense, but to me it's as clear as black and white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiss View Post
    I think Se-valuing from how you describe yourself in other threads.

    E/I : Extraversion and introversion - Wikisocion .
    No, he's my dual...ESTj; I may consider ESTp...not sure yet.
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    from these criteria:

    Extraverted types

    1. Psychic energy more often flows outwards.
    2. Energy level increases when interacting with a large group of people.
    3. Energy level decreases when they are alone.
    4. Energy level is generally higher.
    5. More often focused on their surroundings.
    6. Tend to be more active and initiating.
    7. Often make new friends easily.
    8. Often better at presenting themselves.
    9. Often prefer to work in a team.

    Introverted types

    1. Psychic energy more often flows inwards.
    2. Energy level increases when they are alone.
    3. Energy level decreases when interacting with a large group of people.
    4. Energy level is generally lower.
    5. More often focused on their thoughts and feelings.
    6. Tend to be more passive, less initiating.
    7. Often do not have many friends.
    8. Often better at concentrating.
    9. Often prefer to work alone.

    I am definitely an E.

    that gives me EST but Iīm still in doubt about J or P, which doubt is probably cleared by my total attraction to INFJ girls.

    but that could be a highly sexual ESTP also couldnīt it? anyway I dont like agression and I donīt see life as a power-struggle or some sort of testing of my willpower and endurance, to me this sounds masochistic not wise or smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne View Post
    but that could be a highly sexual ESTP also couldnīt it? anyway I dont like agression and I donīt see life as a power-struggle or some sort of testing of my willpower and endurance, to me this sounds masochistic not wise or smart.
    You're still at least partly in MBTI world, methinks. What about looking up rationality/irrationality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne View Post

    but that could be a highly sexual ESTP also couldnīt it? anyway I dont like agression and I donīt see life as a power-struggle or some sort of testing of my willpower and endurance, to me this sounds masochistic not wise or smart.
    all ESTj's are highly sexual and hedonistic and same goes for ESFj's. Their sexual style is different.

    My cousin who is ESFj preferes to prolong pleasure maybe have sex once per week with lots of forplay every day up to that point. They like lots of physical contact, but may or may not involve sex, lots of kissing. This is true of every ESFj that I have asked.

    Well, you can imagine ESTj preference for that
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    Would you be able to post a side picture of yourself?

    A forum member, Rasputin, is also ESTj with enneagram 1w9, so that's one more piece of the puzzle there
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    Maritsa, all this flirting and sexual talk that's going on is making it appear as if you are easy... Look after yourself :/. Anyone can pose as your dual irl, and then take advantage of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiss View Post
    You're still at least partly in MBTI world, methinks. What about looking up rationality/irrationality?
    Thank you Aiss.

    I am definitely a rational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    all ESTj's are highly sexual and hedonistic and same goes for ESFj's. Their sexual style is different.

    My cousin who is ESFj preferes to prolong pleasure maybe have sex once per week with lots of forplay every day up to that point. They like lots of physical contact, but may or may not involve sex, lots of kissing. This is true of every ESFj that I have asked.

    Well, you can imagine ESTj preference for that
    Actually I canīt

    what are you trying to transmit or imply here?

    Lobo, will you stop being jealous of my friendship with Maritsa? I already told you to tell that girl who kicked you to go to hell and go for a walk and get some conversation going on with some other girl. Moderate alcohol consumption may help if you have enough age for that. It will soften your situation of having been hurt if you get to know a good girl so move on, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne View Post
    Actually I canīt

    what are you trying to transmit or imply here?

    Lobo, will you stop being jealous of my friendship with Maritsa? I already told you to tell that girl who kicked you to go to hell and go for a walk and get some conversation going on with some other girl. Moderate alcohol consumption may help if you have enough age for that. It will soften your situation of having been hurt if you get to know a good girl so move on, man.
    Nothing at all I do think you are ESTj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne View Post
    Actually I canīt

    what are you trying to transmit or imply here?

    Lobo, will you stop being jealous of my friendship with Maritsa? I already told you to tell that girl who kicked you to go to hell and go for a walk and get some conversation going on with some other girl. Moderate alcohol consumption may help if you have enough age for that. It will soften your situation of having been hurt if you get to know a good girl so move on, man.
    lol.

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    I got what you meant, Maritsa.

    Mathematics:

    If ESFJs like to have lots of physical contact such as kissing and foreplay everyday, then ESTJs like to have lots of hard perverted sex everyday, is this the logic? More rational than their F counterparts...

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    I will take a side pic and post it here Maritsa.

    Just because it is YOU whoīs asking

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    1w9?
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    yes thatīs my enneagram type.

    I got to know socionics only some months ago, through an enneagram discussion group.

    Iīve been involved with enneagram for some 8 years now. Itīs amazing and I find it a little too simplistic but it has a spiritual side, which socionics does not.

    A lot of misidentification occurs on enneagram (much more than on socionics I guess) so for some two years I was identified wrongly. Then I got another identification from a therapist who had identified me wrongly and I got really interested in the enneagram. It turned out that his second guess was right.

    Why are you asking?

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    ah I see youīre a 8w9.

    well ESTJ seems to be very common among 1s and 8s because of the bouts of anger, authoritatian style, coldness, but the enneagram 8 fits better as an ESTP. More full of energy and confrontational, although both 1 and 8 like doing justice.

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    Hm, I don't know quite what to think of you yet, Airborne. I have some thoughts, but I'm not sure if you'd want to hear all of them.

    Welcome, by the way.
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    Go ahead Minde. Of course Iīd like to hear them all.

    though the importance I may attach to anyoneīs thoughts here about me may not be a lot, because I wrote little stuff here up to now.

    but bring it on, Iīm curious about your thoughts now that you said you have thoughts about me. would that be a 'dualizing' flertation of yours? :wink:

    Iīm all yours baby. Speak your mind.

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    Pre-2013 post are written with incomplete understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Minde is not INFj. She is actually SEI/ISFp. Which would be rather charming for an ESTj, but ultimately, they have in their ego block and after a while, that will get very annoying and frustrating for you at a close relations.
    Thank you for your point here Maritsa. I see there is some disagreement among members on Mindeīs type.

    Do I see some jealousy here Maritsa? Donīt be worried honey, I and Minde... it was just a one-night stand. It wonīt last long because sheīs ISFP. So donīt worry my dear. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne View Post
    Thank you for your point here Maritsa. I see there is some disagreement among members on Mindeīs type.

    Do I see some jealousy here Maritsa? Donīt be worried honey, I and Minde... it was just a one-night stand. It wonīt last long because sheīs ISFP. So donīt worry my dear. lol.
    I am more worried then jealous. I don't want the ESTj's trying to "work with her" to somehow "better" or "change" her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Minde is not INFj. She is actually SEI/ISFp. Which would be rather charming for an ESTj, but ultimately, they have in their ego block and after a while, that will get very annoying and frustrating for you at a close relations.

    airborne, it is very likely that minde is an infj. in fact I dont know of anyone who really disagrees other than maritsa and her opinion is as good as dirt around these parts
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