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    Default Gammas and lesbianism

    Basically when you look through lesbian porn, all the girls are gammas. (Many of them are SEEs, but the other types are in there too). Why is this? Lesbian porn is too soft for my tastes. I've never liked it, but now I realized.. Wait a minute, all the gamma males I know like lesbian porn. And I know a few ILI females who are man haters. Gamma females: do you have lesbian leanings?
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    Not really, but I have a SEI friend who is bisexual.

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    The porn industry is weighted towards Se and Fe, so it wouldn't surprise me if there are lots of Se-dominants.
    Unfortunately (or for better or worse), since SEEs are usually charming, gregarious, optimistic and love people, it's really easy for them to become sex workers when they don't get Ni and can't choose a better course in life, and if they're down on their luck.
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    I saw many beta NFs there too.
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    ..I don't think that's type related. I know two infps: one gay, one lesbian, and one seriously confused isfp.

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    I don't really like lesbian porn ftr
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    I'm not a man-hater as much as I dislike men who try to make moves on me. If they keep it platonic, then I am fine. To be fair, I also really disliked it when ESI lesbian friend made moves on me.

    I should revise it as I very much dislike males and females who make moves on me without being up front about it and not getting to the point and not respecting my declination by pushing onwards when I have said 'no.' Those kind of people suck at life and should die.
    How can a person be upfront about that type of stuff? "Hey, I want to make moves on you." There is no other way to court someone other than making moves. That is how you show interest, not by coming out and saying "I am interested in you." It's gotta be wayyyy more subtle than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    I saw many beta NFs there too.
    When was that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    This is why I vow to never date Alphas again.

    But to be honest, I won't say I don't play mind games because I do, but it's more of the pursuer and pursued style. However, either style needs to result in confrontation (preferably in PRIVATE) and when someone shows uncertainty or says 'no' (especially), then give it up and put the 'well, maybe' thing aside.

    While confrontation should not be immediate until one party feels very sure about this interest, imo, it should come or else don't dick around by innuendoing around with your object of desire. If you won't be direct, then you should be able to tell if what you are doing is making the other person uncomfortable. Games are alright if both are playing, but if your playing is pissing someone off, then fuck off?

    Sorry that I am very cynical about this with Fe PoLR to boot, but it really pisses me off.
    This is coming from an interest I have had in an INTp girl for about 6 months. Everything you said reminded me of her, from her insistence that just saying "no" is going to make someone throw away the feelings someone has for her, that she can act in a certain way to ward off guys, that she can magically make everyone feel platonic feelings for her. I could never drop the "well maybe" thing, ever. I know very well what makes her uncomfortable, and it makes me sad that she becomes uncomfortable when I put my head on her shoulder to show that I care. This is why I stay away from her even though I have feelings for her, because anything I do just makes her question why I am doing what I am doing. Talking with her, there is a whole other world that she is missing out on, the world of showing you care through physics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I don't really like lesbian porn ftr
    me neither.

    An ESTP friend of mine likes lesbian porn. For the rest of my friends I don't know.

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    Lesbians aren't really my thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    I am speaking from experience, as well.

    I suppose it's easy for me to say such things because in the rare occasion that I fall in love, I have zero expectation of anything coming of it and choose to leave my feelings out of my relationship with this person. Deny thyself.
    holy. you are just like her. just like her. She told me that exactly. :"| she needs a huge hug. HUGE. too bad she hates hugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    Are you implying I,too, need a hug because I am a bitter, pathetic human being wallowing in angsty self-denial like a monastic denying self for inward perfection or I need a hug because I'm a frigid person who puts on an aloof front while inwardly wanting to protect others and myself from future disappointment by granting present disappointment?
    I believe the loaded question implies the former.

    Or maybe you just need a nice outing to break you out of inward sense of repression. A day-long minivacation or a night out, depending on your preference.

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    If you are even a little bit cute, I will hug you if I have known you for a couple days.
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    I've posted this before, but an oddly high number of SEEs I know, male and female, are bisexual. I don't know why, or if it's just the SEEs I know. And I'm not typing them based on this. These are largely people I've typed, and then I've found out about same-sex relationships they've been in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariella View Post
    an oddly high number of SEEs I know, female, are bisexual.
    nice, there comes my threesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    Are you implying I,too, need a hug because I am a bitter, pathetic human being wallowing in angsty self-denial like a monastic denying self for inward perfection or I need a hug because I'm a frigid person who puts on an aloof front while inwardly wanting to protect others and myself from future disappointment by granting present disappointment?
    I have nothing of substance to add to this thread. I just had to laugh at this and myself too.

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    I am sympathetic towards your unrequited-like situation. I would hate that, and I'm sure you've had to go through some misery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamajama View Post
    This is coming from an interest I have had in an INTp girl for about 6 months. Everything you said reminded me of her, from her insistence that just saying "no" is going to make someone throw away the feelings someone has for her,
    It doesn't make someone stop liking me, but if they keep pursuing me for a romantic relationship, don't they realize they are ignoring me and what I said and headed to stalkerville?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamajama View Post
    that she can act in a certain way to ward off guys, that she can magically make everyone feel platonic feelings for her.
    She may be successful to a great extent. My best guy friend (I took a firm hand from the beginning in making our relationship degenderized) told me I succeeded at that, which surprised him because he acknowledged I was attractive by standards.

    It's ridiculous for people to say men are only friends with a woman if they think it will help them get her in bed. I have tons of platonic males in my life..even best friends. While there's obviously attraction to each other (or else why is even a heterosexual guy friends with a heterosexual guy if there's no liking involved?), but establishing what your relationship will involve protects people from nasty surprises or unfruitful pining or embarrassment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamajama View Post
    I could never drop the "well maybe" thing, ever. I know very well what makes her uncomfortable, and it makes me sad that she becomes uncomfortable when I put my head on her shoulder to show that I care.
    I'm sorry for your sadness. If some guy wasn't being frank with me about romance between us, I'd feel really uncomfortable with him touching me, precisely because touch is my 'love language.' I'd rather be physical than tell my partner I love him, often, and to give my visceral self the reins when the guy is hiding something or waffling is unpleasant. It's also unpleasant to be touched (which makes me want to get physical) if the guy is my friend and won't listen to me saying I don't want romance. Guys, how creepy would it be if the situation was reversed?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kamajama View Post
    This is why I stay away from her even though I have feelings for her, because anything I do just makes her question why I am doing what I am doing.
    You have feelings for an analyzer. That's part of her soul, part of who she is. Do you really like her, if you don't like something that so much defines her? If you do like that part of her, realize she's needing to know why you're doing what you're doing if she's going to be comfortable with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamajama View Post

    Talking with her, there is a whole other world that she is missing out on, the world of showing you care through physics.

    :"|

    maybe she only wants that world from people who are having a specified relationship with her. I like my sex life well-defined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamajama View Post
    and it makes me sad that she becomes uncomfortable when I put my head on her shoulder to show that I care
    I refuse to form a mental picture of this.
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    As I grow older and more experienced, I'm learning that simply, what you like erotically has nothing to do with what you need emotionally. They're just different things. And of course we idealistically want them to be merged but sadly it just doesn't work that way.

    When I was younger and naive, like an idiot - I would pretend that I was in love with men that I only lusted. Because the raw sexual feelings were so pleasurable I convinced myself I was in love with men who could care less about me, and were just using me. (and I was using them)

    And so people make choices. They either go with what turns them on, and have fleeting sexual encounters and all the ups and downs that that entails, or they find a special person to share feelings with and have sex that is good enough, but won't ever be *the bomb.* Basically, like anything else it boils down to making decisions and accepting the consequences for those decisions.

    Because nothing can replace the intense adventurous feeling a gay man feels by walking in a hotel room for the first time, and seeing a new and hot guy with his legs spread ready for you to fuck him. Can a long-term monogamous relationship replicate that feeling? No, not exactly cause it's inherently the opposite. It's based on safety, security and long-term compatibility.

    People cheat because it's a rush. It's like a roller coaster. They don't mean to hurt anybody. They act in natural ways, and then they hate themselves for acting naturally.

    ((and lol this is kind of off topic but then again we all strayed. And yeah I noticed gammas like their lesbians.))

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